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Post by richie on Dec 15, 2021 11:16:49 GMT
Usually don't really care about whats going on with the Teds but I notice they are about publish their accounts with massive losses expected.
They are usually quick to point out our financial position but as they have 122% of turnover on wages, I cant help but think they aren't very well run, given they dont have large transfer fees by crazy championship standards.
I'm just waiting to have sideways smirk when the loss is announced.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Dec 15, 2021 11:45:29 GMT
I think he finally might want out.
I reckon he’d keep the bears and flyers, but the money in football and the gap in resources in the championship is getting more and more ridiculous with nobody doing anything to address it.
Other than on loyalty and support for them which he’s done for many years, why should he be expected to fund millions and millions pound losses in an unfair system where it’s now next to impossible to compete with the parachute payment clubs.
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Post by SleepyGas on Dec 15, 2021 12:12:26 GMT
I think he finally might want out. I reckon he’d keep the bears and flyers, but the money in football and the gap in resources in the championship is getting more and more ridiculous with nobody doing anything to address it. Other than on loyalty and support for them which he’s done for many years, why should he be expected to fund millions and millions pound losses in an unfair system where it’s now next to impossible to compete with the parachute payment clubs. The problem is.. if he did want out of the football, but retain the rugby then how would he decouple the two entities now that they are so intertwined? |
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2021 12:14:00 GMT
I think he finally might want out. I reckon he’d keep the bears and flyers, but the money in football and the gap in resources in the championship is getting more and more ridiculous with nobody doing anything to address it. Other than on loyalty and support for them which he’s done for many years, why should he be expected to fund millions and millions pound losses in an unfair system where it’s now next to impossible to compete with the parachute payment clubs. Which kind of begs the question, if he keeps the Rugby Club, and presumably Ashton Gate for them to play in, how does he sell the Football Club? |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Dec 15, 2021 12:20:37 GMT
Owners of football clubs outside of the Premiership are on a hiding to nothing. Parachute payments are just to justify clubs with high wage bills getting relegated. In no other job would you perform badly and keep getting paid. I notice how those who went straight back up to the premiership had their parachute payments withheld, not distributed to us 'outsiders
Even within the top division there are the haves and have nots which led to the attempted breakaway.
Both sides of the river we have owners losing considerable sums of money. Flagging the 82ers accounts is just reiterating that funding from those with a bit of cash keeps teams alive. Be them Blue, Red, Green, White a lot more clubs would be gone without the owners support.
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Post by nsblue on Dec 15, 2021 12:44:58 GMT
The most eye opening bit is :
It is therefore no wonder that Lansdown is seeking outside investment, which could be much more than just a stake in City. Indeed, an article in The Athletic on the state of Championship club ownership last month detailed how the, "search for help, and potentially a full takeover, is underway" at City.
Sounds like he has had enough of wasting millions and being abused by the fans! Be careful what you wish for!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 12:46:50 GMT
League football just seems a money-pit. Once run at break-even by local business men, then the millionaires and now the billionaires. One day it will crash and perhaps average players will again earn average wages.
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2021 13:00:05 GMT
The most eye opening bit is : It is therefore no wonder that Lansdown is seeking outside investment, which could be much more than just a stake in City. Indeed, an article in The Athletic on the state of Championship club ownership last month detailed how the, "search for help, and potentially a full takeover, is underway" at City. Sounds like he has had enough of wasting millions and being abused by the fans! Be careful what you wish for! Exactly. And to think of the throw away comments by more than a few on here about Wael. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 15, 2021 13:05:02 GMT
The odd thing about City and Lansdowne is that they have all the right ingredients to be a PL team. Training ground, stadium, infrastructure, staff, they have nothing less than probably the bottom 12 of the PL.
They are one good appointment away from being promoted with some savvy transfer spend. But it seems they are on a cycle of being happy to tread water in the championship, there doesn’t seem to be any desire to really push on.
I think the teds all see it that way as well which is why they are stamping their feet.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Dec 15, 2021 13:10:34 GMT
This also raises the question as to what fans want from the club.
1. Surviving in leagues one or two.
2. Losing a fortune and playing regularly in the Championship
3. Struggling in the Championship and losing shed loads of money
4. As above but in the Premier league
5. Playing comfortably in Premier league but not feeling like the Gas are our club anymore.
Growing up I always dreamed we'd join the big boys, but now I'm not so sure, football isn't what it used to be and I don't want the Gas to sell the soul of the club.
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2021 13:12:26 GMT
The odd thing about City and Lansdowne is that they have all the right ingredients to be a PL team. Training ground, stadium, infrastructure, staff, they have nothing less than probably the bottom 12 of the PL. They are one good appointment away from being promoted with some savvy transfer spend. But it seems they are on a cycle of being happy to tread water in the championship, there doesn’t seem to be any desire to really push on. I think the teds all see it that way as well which is why they are stamping their feet. Isn't Lansdowne something like the 5th richest indivdual club owner in the entire League? And it still doesn't happen for them. Gotta laugh. |
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2021 13:16:47 GMT
This also raises the question as to what fans want from the club. 1. Surviving in leagues one or two. 2. Losing a fortune and playing regularly in the Championship 3. Struggling in the Championship and losing shed loads of money 4. As above but in the Premier league 5. Playing comfortably in Premier league but not feeling like the Gas are our club anymore. Growing up I always dreamed we'd join the big boys, but now I'm not so sure, football isn't what it used to be and I don't want the Gas to sell the soul of the club. I've had this conversation with my Father on more than a few occasions. Would it still be Rovers if a Billionaire with more money than sense, bought us and we became say, the next Man City? No local lads playing for us, laughing at FFP rules and fines, just buying success? It wouldn't be the same. I'd rather we achieved through hard work and passion. |
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Post by legas on Dec 15, 2021 13:23:57 GMT
On a slightly different topic, doesn’t anyone proof read Bristol Post articles? My 10 year old’s homework has fewer mistakes in it.
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Post by percy on Dec 15, 2021 14:37:35 GMT
This also raises the question as to what fans want from the club. 1. Surviving in leagues one or two. 2. Losing a fortune and playing regularly in the Championship 3. Struggling in the Championship and losing shed loads of money 4. As above but in the Premier league 5. Playing comfortably in Premier league but not feeling like the Gas are our club anymore. Growing up I always dreamed we'd join the big boys, but now I'm not so sure, football isn't what it used to be and I don't want the Gas to sell the soul of the club. Brentford seem to have done something right. Competing in the prem, new stadium, still have their identity and fans with them. Something like that would be good! |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 15, 2021 15:06:12 GMT
The whole structure of football is bound to come crashing down at some point. The billionaires at the top of the game have made it unsustainable. The gap between the big clubs and the small just get bigger and bigger each year.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 15, 2021 15:08:39 GMT
I think he finally might want out. I reckon he’d keep the bears and flyers, but the money in football and the gap in resources in the championship is getting more and more ridiculous with nobody doing anything to address it. Other than on loyalty and support for them which he’s done for many years, why should he be expected to fund millions and millions pound losses in an unfair system where it’s now next to impossible to compete with the parachute payment clubs. The problem is.. if he did want out of the football, but retain the rugby then how would he decouple the two entities now that they are so intertwined? Close them down , it’s the only ( rightful) answer. |
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Post by SleepyGas on Dec 15, 2021 15:23:23 GMT
The problem is.. if he did want out of the football, but retain the rugby then how would he decouple the two entities now that they are so intertwined? Close them down , it’s the only ( rightful) answer. Seems fair. |
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 15, 2021 16:09:29 GMT
Imagine if city ended up paying rent to Bristol sport having been sold to someone else! Imagine if they fell out and ended up without a ground and spending 40 years trying to get a new one.
It’s irresistible. Rovers get fruit market (close to their area). A homeless city drop out the league and new generations of fans from north and south follow rovers.
It would be pretty poetic justice given how hard we’ve had it and crucially, how spiteful snd classless they have been over the years.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 15, 2021 16:12:02 GMT
No chance Lansdown sells them, the bloke has money to p*ss up the wall for years to come!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 16:13:32 GMT
The odd thing about City and Lansdowne is that they have all the right ingredients to be a PL team. Training ground, stadium, infrastructure, staff, they have nothing less than probably the bottom 12 of the PL. They are one good appointment away from being promoted with some savvy transfer spend. But it seems they are on a cycle of being happy to tread water in the championship, there doesn’t seem to be any desire to really push on. I think the teds all see it that way as well which is why they are stamping their feet. You’ve just described half the championship to be fair |
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