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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Dec 17, 2021 10:25:30 GMT
I think it's actually the best team we've had in years. It's about more than stats. GC had great stats but an awful team, This IS a joke right? We have a bunch of players that turn up inconsistently, can't hold a lead, and have very poor discipline. GC showed himself to be a far superior manager to JB. He inherited someone else's players, didn't whinge, motivated them , and got us up the table. JB inherited someone else's players, blamed everyone and everything apart from himself, produced some dire performances and results, and got us relegated. You don't get to 4th in League 1 with an awful team. But you do get relegated with an awful manager. GC inherited sombody else's players, but he did have the advantage of having coached them for several months beforehand. |
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 17, 2021 10:41:56 GMT
I think it's actually the best team we've had in years. It's about more than stats. GC had great stats but an awful team, This IS a joke right? We have a bunch of players that turn up inconsistently, can't hold a lead, and have very poor discipline. GC showed himself to be a far superior manager to JB. He inherited someone else's players, didn't whinge, motivated them , and got us up the table. JB inherited someone else's players, blamed everyone and everything apart from himself, produced some dire performances and results, and got us relegated. You don't get to 4th in League 1 with an awful team. But you do get relegated with an awful manager. Coughlan would have taken us down the season before without JCH and nowhere near 4th without JCH. Don’t you remember us climbing out of the mess with non stop JCH goals? You can absolutely get to 4th with an awful team, if you have one excellent striker. MaraDonna won a World Cup on his own. GC was amongst the worst football I’ve seen, we would have been near the bottom if it wasn’t for JCH. If you genuinely remember that era and think we were going places then I feel for you. It was the Ipswich result and subsequently leaving which got him rose tinted. It was mainly DCs team and JCH. He failed abjectly in the league below and that tells its own story, |
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Post by richie on Dec 17, 2021 11:03:12 GMT
To be fair you’re a fine one to make digs about facts at other posters on here with some of your recent posts Mr Pirate. All factual information posted by myself, Equaliser. might be factual but "adjusted" to suit own view like having T&C's in the small print |
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Post by richie on Dec 17, 2021 11:06:57 GMT
This IS a joke right? We have a bunch of players that turn up inconsistently, can't hold a lead, and have very poor discipline. GC showed himself to be a far superior manager to JB. He inherited someone else's players, didn't whinge, motivated them , and got us up the table. JB inherited someone else's players, blamed everyone and everything apart from himself, produced some dire performances and results, and got us relegated. You don't get to 4th in League 1 with an awful team. But you do get relegated with an awful manager. Coughlan would have taken us down the season before without JCH and nowhere near 4th without JCH. Don’t you remember us climbing out of the mess with non stop JCH goals? You can absolutely get to 4th with an awful team, if you have one excellent striker. MaraDonna won a World Cup on his own. GC was amongst the worst football I’ve seen, we would have been near the bottom if it wasn’t for JCH. If you genuinely remember that era and think we were going places then I feel for you. It was the Ipswich result and subsequently leaving which got him rose tinted. It was mainly DCs team and JCH. He failed abjectly in the league below and that tells its own story, 100% agree shhhhh!! dont say anything bad about DC. |
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Post by wallywalters on Dec 17, 2021 11:09:52 GMT
This IS a joke right? We have a bunch of players that turn up inconsistently, can't hold a lead, and have very poor discipline. GC showed himself to be a far superior manager to JB. He inherited someone else's players, didn't whinge, motivated them , and got us up the table. JB inherited someone else's players, blamed everyone and everything apart from himself, produced some dire performances and results, and got us relegated. You don't get to 4th in League 1 with an awful team. But you do get relegated with an awful manager. Coughlan would have taken us down the season before without JCH and nowhere near 4th without JCH. Don’t you remember us climbing out of the mess with non stop JCH goals? You can absolutely get to 4th with an awful team, if you have one excellent striker. MaraDonna won a World Cup on his own. GC was amongst the worst football I’ve seen, we would have been near the bottom if it wasn’t for JCH. If you genuinely remember that era and think we were going places then I feel for you. It was the Ipswich result and subsequently leaving which got him rose tinted. It was mainly DCs team and JCH. He failed abjectly in the league below and that tells its own story, Couldn’t agree more. I remember Bradford at home towards the end of the season we stayed up when Bradford went down. They completely played us off the park we were shocking as usual but jch popped up with an injury time winner to make it 3-2. I remember feeling so sorry for the Bradford fans who had watched their team dominate and lose. The difference was we had jch and they didn’t. As simple as that. |
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Post by SleepyGas on Dec 17, 2021 11:10:19 GMT
This IS a joke right? We have a bunch of players that turn up inconsistently, can't hold a lead, and have very poor discipline. GC showed himself to be a far superior manager to JB. He inherited someone else's players, didn't whinge, motivated them , and got us up the table. JB inherited someone else's players, blamed everyone and everything apart from himself, produced some dire performances and results, and got us relegated. You don't get to 4th in League 1 with an awful team. But you do get relegated with an awful manager. Coughlan would have taken us down the season before without JCH and nowhere near 4th without JCH. Don’t you remember us climbing out of the mess with non stop JCH goals? You can absolutely get to 4th with an awful team, if you have one excellent striker. MaraDonna won a World Cup on his own. GC was amongst the worst football I’ve seen, we would have been near the bottom if it wasn’t for JCH. If you genuinely remember that era and think we were going places then I feel for you. It was the Ipswich result and subsequently leaving which got him rose tinted. It was mainly DCs team and JCH. He failed abjectly in the league below and that tells its own story, I'm in 2 minds about GC. It's fair to say I never really took to him as a personality, but I did appreciate he took over when we were 21st in League One and then we immediately went on a decent run (even before we signed JCH) that led us out of trouble. That second season was something else. The realistic part of my brain was telling me that we were in something of a false position, but the good results kept coming and then Ipswich happened! I think I was more angry at him than anything when he left us for a club in the league below. The way he left certainly tainted any goodwill he had built up with me and I quite enjoyed watching him fail miserably with Mansfield. But our epic collapse ever since GC left means he will have had the last laugh.. especially if he gets that Doncaster job..  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 11:17:52 GMT
It was boring to watch but at the end of the day over his time here Graham had us performing as one the 6 best teams in league 1 (taking 4 points off of Joseph on the way).
Easy to say “without JCH” but the fact is he did have JCH and that was part of his team, it’s like saying if Barton didn’t have Evans we’d be stuffed…guess what he does have him.
There really is no comparison to be made here on the only thing that actually counts towards anything….results.
This is coming from someone who thinks graham is a massive bellend for the way he left us as well and how he did the dirty on the ownership.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 17, 2021 11:18:09 GMT
I trust your friend has fully recovered from his Ashton Gate trauma that did or didn't happen and your friends at the planning committee are keeping well. 😆 My Friend as you call him passed away with Covid last year and my planning friend is now back on the planning committee as a deputy Chair person . if you live in Bristol you can have a chat to him via e-mail anytime, he is very helpful and yes the council are not happy about the information our Bristol hack released about the fruit market |
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Dec 17, 2021 11:31:37 GMT
It was boring to watch but at the end of the day over his time here Graham had us performing as one the 6 best teams in league 1 (taking 4 points off of Joseph on the way). Easy to say “without JCH” but the fact is he did have JCH and that was part of his team, it’s like saying if Barton didn’t have Evans we’d be stuffed…guess what he does have him. There really is no comparison to be made here on the only thing that actually counts towards anything….results. This is coming from someone who thinks graham is a massive bellend for the way he left us as well and how he did the dirty on the ownership. Also, we did have games without JCH that season and still did well enough to be 4th. One of those games without JCH was Ipswich. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 11:36:35 GMT
It was boring to watch but at the end of the day over his time here Graham had us performing as one the 6 best teams in league 1 (taking 4 points off of Joseph on the way). Easy to say “without JCH” but the fact is he did have JCH and that was part of his team, it’s like saying if Barton didn’t have Evans we’d be stuffed…guess what he does have him. There really is no comparison to be made here on the only thing that actually counts towards anything….results. This is coming from someone who thinks graham is a massive bellend for the way he left us as well and how he did the dirty on the ownership. Also, we did have games without JCH that season and still did well enough to be 4th. One of those games without JCH was Ipswich. 4-3 win away at Shrews as well. |
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Post by yetigas on Dec 17, 2021 11:43:02 GMT
This IS a joke right? We have a bunch of players that turn up inconsistently, can't hold a lead, and have very poor discipline. GC showed himself to be a far superior manager to JB. He inherited someone else's players, didn't whinge, motivated them , and got us up the table. JB inherited someone else's players, blamed everyone and everything apart from himself, produced some dire performances and results, and got us relegated. You don't get to 4th in League 1 with an awful team. But you do get relegated with an awful manager. Coughlan would have taken us down the season before without JCH and nowhere near 4th without JCH. Don’t you remember us climbing out of the mess with non stop JCH goals? You can absolutely get to 4th with an awful team, if you have one excellent striker. MaraDonna won a World Cup on his own. GC was amongst the worst football I’ve seen, we would have been near the bottom if it wasn’t for JCH. If you genuinely remember that era and think we were going places then I feel for you. It was the Ipswich result and subsequently leaving which got him rose tinted. It was mainly DCs team and JCH. He failed abjectly in the league below and that tells its own story, It may have been mainly DC's team but DC was heading for relegation before he was saved from himself by getting booted out. JCH never won games on his own...he did good job scoring goals but to be fair I think it was the 'bodies on the line' defending that was a bigger factor in getting up the league. since you were comparing GC with JB I am not sure that saying 'he failed abjectly in the league below...' is a strong argument given our current position!! |
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Post by yetigas on Dec 17, 2021 11:45:48 GMT
This IS a joke right? We have a bunch of players that turn up inconsistently, can't hold a lead, and have very poor discipline. GC showed himself to be a far superior manager to JB. He inherited someone else's players, didn't whinge, motivated them , and got us up the table. JB inherited someone else's players, blamed everyone and everything apart from himself, produced some dire performances and results, and got us relegated. You don't get to 4th in League 1 with an awful team. But you do get relegated with an awful manager. GC inherited sombody else's players, but he did have the advantage of having coached them for several months beforehand. He did indeed - but there again, DC had recruited AND coached most of the team and could not get them to play which suggests that GC was a good motivator. I have yet to see evidence that JB can motivate players - certainly failed last season. |
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Post by Jomo on Dec 17, 2021 11:48:00 GMT
I think it's actually the best team we've had in years. It's about more than stats. GC had great stats but an awful team, Lol. I agree that it's a more entertaining watch on the whole than the GC era which was turgid but effective. However, objectively speaking, awful teams don't sit 36 places higher in the pyramid than good teams. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 11:50:58 GMT
Coughlan would have taken us down the season before without JCH and nowhere near 4th without JCH. Don’t you remember us climbing out of the mess with non stop JCH goals? You can absolutely get to 4th with an awful team, if you have one excellent striker. MaraDonna won a World Cup on his own. GC was amongst the worst football I’ve seen, we would have been near the bottom if it wasn’t for JCH. If you genuinely remember that era and think we were going places then I feel for you. It was the Ipswich result and subsequently leaving which got him rose tinted. It was mainly DCs team and JCH. He failed abjectly in the league below and that tells its own story, It may have been mainly DC's team but DC was heading for relegation before he was saved from himself by getting booted out. JCH never won games on his own...he did good job scoring goals but to be fair I think it was the 'bodies on the line' defending that was a bigger factor in getting up the league. since you were comparing GC with JB I am not sure that saying 'he failed abjectly in the league below...' is a strong argument given our current position!! Sometimes it just works for managers and players one place but not another.Agree that what cogs did at Mansfield isn’t relevant I couldn’t care less what Graham did with Mansfield or what Joseph did with Fleetwood, my priority and concern is what they did/do with Bristol Rovers and so far one of them is considerably better than the other. |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 17, 2021 12:29:33 GMT
Gas on a winning streak putting teams to the sword with a good manager and sitting 4th at Christmas in L1: “I wasn’t entertained”.
Gas sitting 15th in L2 with officially the worst manager in our history after building a squad of his own as well as going to court twice: “The football is so much better”
Personally I was happy winning football games against good teams. Happier than I was getting dicked 4-0 by Exeter and drawing against 9 man Salford.
But hey, each to their own.
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Post by SleepyGas on Dec 17, 2021 12:32:31 GMT
Gas on a winning streak putting teams to the sword with a good manager and sitting 4th at Christmas in L1: “I wasn’t entertained”. Gas sitting 15th in L2 with officially the worst manager in our history after building a squad of his own as well as going to court twice: “The football is so much better” Personally I was happy winning football games against good teams. Happier than I was getting dicked 4-0 by Exeter and drawing against 9 man Salford. But hey, each to their own. It's absolutely staggering, isn't it? |
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Post by Jomo on Dec 17, 2021 13:18:10 GMT
Gas on a winning streak putting teams to the sword with a good manager and sitting 4th at Christmas in L1: “I wasn’t entertained”. Gas sitting 15th in L2 with officially the worst manager in our history after building a squad of his own as well as going to court twice: “The football is so much better” Personally I was happy winning football games against good teams. Happier than I was getting dicked 4-0 by Exeter and drawing against 9 man Salford. But hey, each to their own. Ah but, our manager now "tells it as it is" (apparently) so that makes it all good. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Dec 17, 2021 14:04:28 GMT
GC inherited sombody else's players, but he did have the advantage of having coached them for several months beforehand. He did indeed - but there again, DC had recruited AND coached most of the team and could not get them to play which suggests that GC was a good motivator. I have yet to see evidence that JB can motivate players - certainly failed last season. Presumably you haven't seen any Rovers games in the last couple of months then? |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Dec 17, 2021 14:34:56 GMT
I think it's actually the best team we've had in years. It's about more than stats. GC had great stats but an awful team, This IS a joke right? We have a bunch of players that turn up inconsistently, can't hold a lead, and have very poor discipline. GC showed himself to be a far superior manager to JB. He inherited someone else's players, didn't whinge, motivated them , and got us up the table. JB inherited someone else's players, blamed everyone and everything apart from himself, produced some dire performances and results, and got us relegated. You don't get to 4th in League 1 with an awful team. But you do get relegated with 6an awful manager. Remind how this excellent manager got on when he left us? |
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Post by SleepyGas on Dec 17, 2021 14:37:06 GMT
He did indeed - but there again, DC had recruited AND coached most of the team and could not get them to play which suggests that GC was a good motivator. I have yet to see evidence that JB can motivate players - certainly failed last season. Presumably you haven't seen any Rovers games in the last couple of months then? He's certainly motivated us to lead the table... for most red cards in the Football League  |
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