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Post by warehamgas on May 14, 2022 8:42:21 GMT
This place is amusing. Yes there is a lot of water to go under the bridge but there is also a lot we already know. Both CBs have gone. Both DCMs haven't got legs. Our strikers are either past it or inexperienced. We came 3rd in Div4. Our star player has gone. It is a step up in levels. As things stand, we get relegated without a whimper. It all depends on recruitment and belief. I think we are going to need to keep our better players and improve in CM and up front, plus recruit 3 CBs. JB will need to stay and generate that belief amongst the club and fanbase for a tough year. Consolidation in mid table hopefully, but I know that will be unacceptable for many who expect boom or bust. Yes, a pretty accurate factual description of where we probably are atm. Recruitment will be key and League 1 is a very tough league. We though Luke Mc was one of our best players in League 1 and wanted him to stay. But he’s been in another relegation team which gives a good indication of the quality in that league. I’ll be happy with consolidation but to achieve even that we’ll need to recruit well to replace those we lose. JB will be aware of all this and I’d expect him to react to where we’re going. UTG! |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 14, 2022 8:48:00 GMT
I know it's not meant as a serious guess as such but I don't like threads like this as there are way too many variables to answer the question. Maybe come back and start this thread the eve of the first game as we should have a much better idea of where we are. gashead79 is a bit negative above I think. I still think Coutts could do it at this level, he's a bloody good footballer. I'm guessing you don't Si, based on your above post? |
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Post by kampucheagas on May 14, 2022 11:32:56 GMT
I’m going to wait to hear what Joey thinks
If he says we are going to get promoted then we will.
He’s not been wrong yet.
UTG
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Post by Gashead73 on May 14, 2022 12:41:50 GMT
What do I accept? Consolidation. What am I expecting (target) Mid table. What am I expecting (belief in Joey's squad) Punching for the playoffs. What do I hope we get? Promoted again. Playoffs will do this time. These days you always have a multitude of high spending ex premier league clubs who we won't have a hope of matching budget wise until we evolve as a club and sort ourselves out with a new ground. Therefore and with only 2 positions available for autos I think the league and/or autos are fanciful even for an established L1 side with decent investment. Given the history over the last two decades making the playoffs would be a massive achievement even if we don't win them. But let's remember we've just been promoted out of L2 and whilst we have a strong squad and momentum is on our side doing it at first attempt is a huge ask. So let's accept it might not be a successful season next year and not be too disappointed if that happens, but hope for the best and expect a good season at a level above where we've been over the last 2 years. Cambridge United did it years and years ago I think? |
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Post by baggins on May 14, 2022 12:46:21 GMT
Stay up. That's all I want.
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Post by socrates on May 14, 2022 12:46:23 GMT
I’ve gone for top half because I think we’ll lose at least a couple of our loans and possibly one or two on our books.
But if we had exactly the same squad other than adding one more decent striker I think we’d make top 6 fairly comfortably.
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Post by axegas on May 14, 2022 12:54:14 GMT
I think we’ll struggle next season to some degree, not like the last time we were in League One, but I don’t think we’ll be competing towards the top half of the table.
This season has really underlined the difference in terms of quality between League One and Two for me. There’s a core of about 5/6 teams in League Two that wouldn’t look totally out of place in League One, but below that there has been some real dross. In League One there are no easy games, and about 9 or 10 teams that constitute a massive step up from anything you’d find at League Two level.
I trust the recruitment that’s now in place, particularly the loan recruitment which has been absolutely spot on. I think we’ll need a few gems from the loan market and hopefully we’ll see Connolly and Evans return which would make a big difference to us. We do also have a core of players such as Belshaw, Coutts, Harry Anderson, Collins who could certainly perform to a league one level, so that makes me a bit more optimistic as well.
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Post by bobbyjones on May 14, 2022 16:24:23 GMT
I think we’ll struggle next season to some degree, not like the last time we were in League One, but I don’t think we’ll be competing towards the top half of the table. This season has really underlined the difference in terms of quality between League One and Two for me. There’s a core of about 5/6 teams in League Two that wouldn’t look totally out of place in League One, but below that there has been some real dross. In League One there are no easy games, and about 9 or 10 teams that constitute a massive step up from anything you’d find at League Two level. I trust the recruitment that’s now in place, particularly the loan recruitment which has been absolutely spot on. I think we’ll need a few gems from the loan market and hopefully we’ll see Connolly and Evans return which would make a big difference to us. We do also have a core of players such as Belshaw, Coutts, Harry Anderson, Collins who could certainly perform to a league one level, so that makes me a bit more optimistic as well. Mid table at best. |
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Post by gashead79 on May 15, 2022 10:13:02 GMT
I know it's not meant as a serious guess as such but I don't like threads like this as there are way too many variables to answer the question. Maybe come back and start this thread the eve of the first game as we should have a much better idea of where we are. gashead79 is a bit negative above I think. I still think Coutts could do it at this level, he's a bloody good footballer. I'm guessing you don't Si, based on your above post? I fully backed JBs signings and hoped PC would come good and thankfully he did. He was not getting any support from this forum during the dark months. He has been great, is brilliant at slowing the game down, putting his foot on it and keeping possession. My concern is that when he gets turned(not often as he sits so deep) he is out of the phase. I watched him try and track back a few times and I really felt for him as his legs are shot. There will e other DCMs in lg1 who can do all of what he does but also have a turn of pace when required. The other slight niggle is whilst he is a guru at getting on the nerves of the opposition and talking to the officials, that can backfire in a losing team. His disciplinary record is also poor which is a risk when the margins are tighter. Definitely one for squad cohesion, law and order but imo we need an upgrade at DCM to grow into Couttsys role. |
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Post by kampucheagas on May 15, 2022 10:15:52 GMT
I know it's not meant as a serious guess as such but I don't like threads like this as there are way too many variables to answer the question. Maybe come back and start this thread the eve of the first game as we should have a much better idea of where we are. gashead79 is a bit negative above I think. I still think Coutts could do it at this level, he's a bloody good footballer. I'm guessing you don't Si, based on your above post? I fully backed JBs signings and hoped PC would come good and thankfully he did. He was not getting any support from this forum during the dark months. He has been great, is brilliant at slowing the game down, putting his foot on it and keeping possession. My concern is that when he gets turned(not often as he sits so deep) he is out of the phase. I watched him try and track back a few times and I really felt for him as his legs are shot. There will e other DCMs in lg1 who can do all of what he does but also have a turn of pace when required. The other slight niggle is whilst he is a guru at getting on the nerves of the opposition and talking to the officials, that can backfire in a losing team. His disciplinary record is also poor which is a risk when the margins are tighter. Definitely one for squad cohesion, law and order but imo we need an upgrade at DCM to grow into Couttsys role. Don’t panic Westbrooke is coming back. |
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Post by gashead79 on May 15, 2022 10:20:57 GMT
I’ve gone for top half because I think we’ll lose at least a couple of our loans and possibly one or two on our books. But if we had exactly the same squad other than adding one more decent striker I think we’d make top 6 fairly comfortably. Interesting. So with the same squad we comfortably make top 6, fair enough. Roll forward another 12 months then and we finish 2nd and go up. How does the same squad fair in the championship? Fwiw I would say from this seasons results with the same squad, all of our draws become losses and half of our wins become draws. 47 points in lg1 is a long miserable season. |
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Post by gashead79 on May 15, 2022 10:21:59 GMT
I fully backed JBs signings and hoped PC would come good and thankfully he did. He was not getting any support from this forum during the dark months. He has been great, is brilliant at slowing the game down, putting his foot on it and keeping possession. My concern is that when he gets turned(not often as he sits so deep) he is out of the phase. I watched him try and track back a few times and I really felt for him as his legs are shot. There will e other DCMs in lg1 who can do all of what he does but also have a turn of pace when required. The other slight niggle is whilst he is a guru at getting on the nerves of the opposition and talking to the officials, that can backfire in a losing team. His disciplinary record is also poor which is a risk when the margins are tighter. Definitely one for squad cohesion, law and order but imo we need an upgrade at DCM to grow into Couttsys role. Don’t panic Westbrooke is coming back. 😄 but who knows? Perhaps he finds the missing 10% to become a really useful player for us? It's in there. |
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Post by Gassy on May 15, 2022 10:33:33 GMT
Don’t really understand some of the posts in here. Barton was tasked with building a promotion team from L2, he did that.
What he does this summer depends on what budget and aim he is given. I’m fairly confident our first 11 would survive in L1.
Of course we need to add players, everyone does. It doesn’t even make sense to take away players out of contract and say the squad wouldn’t stay up, no one’s would in that logic.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 15, 2022 10:46:51 GMT
Don’t panic Westbrooke is coming back. 😄 but who knows? Perhaps he finds the missing 10% to become a really useful player for us? It's in there. A lot more than 10% is required! |
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Post by richhertford on May 15, 2022 11:05:33 GMT
😄 but who knows? Perhaps he finds the missing 10% to become a really useful player for us? It's in there. A lot more than 10% is required! I particularly liked his free kick responsibility in our relegation season. His precision and accuracy stood out. 😂😂 After westbrooke left us the team just got better and better. No coincidence that our present squad contain so few from our relegation team. Joey is not afraid to change squad to bring success. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 15, 2022 11:17:17 GMT
This place is amusing. Yes there is a lot of water to go under the bridge but there is also a lot we already know. Both CBs have gone. Both DCMs haven't got legs. Our strikers are either past it or inexperienced. We came 3rd in Div4. Our star player has gone. It is a step up in levels. As things stand, we get relegated without a whimper. It all depends on recruitment and belief. I think we are going to need to keep our better players and improve in CM and up front, plus recruit 3 CBs. JB will need to stay and generate that belief amongst the club and fanbase for a tough year. Consolidation in mid table hopefully, but I know that will be unacceptable for many who expect boom or bust. That just about nails it. This is the reality even though many will not accept it. Once again, us gas have to rely on hoping we get the right players in. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 15, 2022 12:03:50 GMT
FFS guys lighten up it isn’t even June yet. The lads are on holiday celebrating a fantastic promotion.
The form we’ve had in L2 this year we would hold our own in L1 no problem. This squad is above the level of L2 - that’s how we managed to achieve promotion given our position at the turn of the year.
Plenty of transfer activity to come, players to sign contract extensions. For the loans we won’t get back or sign on a permanent, there will be new players. For those not good enough at L2 they’ll be moved on and L1 level players will come in
In Joey we trust.
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Post by gashead79 on May 15, 2022 12:18:42 GMT
FFS guys lighten up it isn’t even June yet. The lads are on holiday celebrating a fantastic promotion. The form we’ve had in L2 this year we would hold our own in L1 no problem. This squad is above the level of L2 - that’s how we managed to achieve promotion given our position at the turn of the year. Plenty of transfer activity to come, players to sign contract extensions. For the loans we won’t get back or sign on a permanent, there will be new players. For those not good enough at L2 they’ll be moved on and L1 level players will come in In Joey we trust. Your expectation? Bear in mind the squad and therefore the form, is affected by the players who have left. |
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Post by baggins on May 15, 2022 12:19:45 GMT
😄 but who knows? Perhaps he finds the missing 10% to become a really useful player for us? It's in there. A lot more than 10% is required! Especially as that's what he started off with. |
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Post by baggins on May 15, 2022 12:20:37 GMT
FFS guys lighten up it isn’t even June yet. The lads are on holiday celebrating a fantastic promotion. The form we’ve had in L2 this year we would hold our own in L1 no problem. This squad is above the level of L2 - that’s how we managed to achieve promotion given our position at the turn of the year. Plenty of transfer activity to come, players to sign contract extensions. For the loans we won’t get back or sign on a permanent, there will be new players. For those not good enough at L2 they’ll be moved on and L1 level players will come in In Joey we trust. Some big Clubs in Lg1 chap. |
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