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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 14:52:52 GMT
after assembling our squad at the Charity shops in the Summer i don't think shopping at Harrods is a good idea...unless they've got a 70% off sale and offer a no quibble refund!
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Post by baggins on Dec 29, 2014 14:56:35 GMT
after assembling our squad at the Charity shops in the Summer i don't think shopping at Harrods is a good idea...unless they've got a 70% off sale and offer a no quibble refund! Is Irene in the sales?
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 29, 2014 15:21:44 GMT
after assembling our squad at the Charity shops in the Summer i don't think shopping at Harrods is a good idea...unless they've got a 70% off sale and offer a no quibble refund! People only shop at Harrods to get a green bag they can parade around London, or even worse, take it back to shitsville and parade it there
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 29, 2014 15:24:50 GMT
Make him an offer we can afford,if he turns us down move on. There is no way his next contract will be five grand a week,whoever he signs for exactly. I hope we learnt from the Constable and O'Toole sagas. he had his day in the sunshine [economic rent]. He now needs to find the best club for him / best town / best contract etc. If that's us fine, if not it's also fine.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 29, 2014 15:29:12 GMT
If we do make an offer we need to make a time limited one as we don't wan the transfer saga dragging on all month only to be let down at the last minute and have to search for another target. Although I'm surprised DC is talking so openly about signing Tubbs as it's hardly a vote of confidence for MT who must surely miss out if we sign Tubbs??
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Post by surreygas on Dec 29, 2014 15:43:37 GMT
yeah. sod that. That's what got us into this mess. As someone else mentioned we might be able to offer Bournemouth more than the Dons are paying him, BUT why would someone who wants to put himself in the shop window (for the summer when his contract is up) come to us on non-lge. The alternative is that we would have to offer him something NOW that was worthwhile to all parties and longer term than the remainder of his Cherries contract. Can't see that happening. The betting is surely on him going on loan to any lge 1 or maybe lge 2 club who will pay 50% of his wages and put him in the shop window. I would have thought Bournemouth would accept the best deal for them. He is worth nothing to them at the end of the season so if we offered a modest transfer fee and Tubbs £2k a week anothe club would have to beat that. I dont think league 2 teams would be able to offer much more and league 1 teams may not be interested in a player who failed in the Championship. Its worthy a cheaky bid at a level we can afford and if it doesnt come off at least we tried.
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Post by stevek192 on Dec 29, 2014 16:05:24 GMT
Portsmouth have been mentioned but would he 1) be guaranteed more football there and 2) would they really be paying very high salaries after the problems they have had in the last 5 years or more? Personally I will be VERY surprised if he comes here but would be delighted to have Tubbs, Taylor, Blissett, Harrison and Goldberg on loan for longer. It would then put a slightly different variation on our squad as we would lack a targetman if Blissett was unavailable but dfeinitely have a lot of pace there and Monkhouse is a more than useful targetman in emergency.
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Post by RD on Dec 29, 2014 17:16:39 GMT
Nothing wrong with trying to get him - provided we offer a deal that suits us. If Tubbs wants more than that (either wage wise or contract length wise) then we accept it and move on. If of course we can genuinely afford to make him an acceptable offer and he's happy to take a 2-year contract then great. I will be truly amazed if Tubbs signes for us though. Literally no chance whatsoever IMO.
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Post by Strange Gas on Dec 29, 2014 18:14:29 GMT
Happy to see him here at the right price, but a. Not sure we need him like we did a few weeks ago b. Not sure he is worth £5k a week if we aren't paying current team that (we can't be)
Only if he comes with cast iron guarantee of getting us 1st place is he worth good money IMHO. So good money only OK if performance related. Else another Toole waiting to happen
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 29, 2014 18:18:00 GMT
agree with pretty much all that.
As he's at Bournemouth maybe he wants to stay in that vague area? Born in Salisbury.
If so, not many teams to choose from.
And easy to forget he came to lge footy very late in his career (2011! 27 years old). he's had one decent pay day [joining and being at the Cherries]. Other than that it's been non-lge, half a season in Lge 2, and now loans in Lge 1 and Lge 2.
I always try to think that just because one team paid shedloads for a player it doesn't mean he has an automatic right to be 'worth' that much, especially years later. Clarkson cost £800,000 to City didn't he? And an alledged bid for around half a million was turned down by Dundee United for Garry Kenneth!
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Post by spiess1 on Dec 29, 2014 18:25:33 GMT
Mehehmagic, what is this "footy" you talk of...(a lot!)..?
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Post by oldgas on Dec 29, 2014 18:31:41 GMT
you have to consider a number of factors in this. First and foremost, how much will he cost, and for how long?
I don't think we'd pay £5k per week, but how about £3k? A 2 year contract would be of more value to him than the remainder of his Bournemouth deal.
How many would he add to the gate? If an average of 600 - 700 per home game then he would be almost cost neutral. If he helped bring success then the financial benefits would be appreciably higher.
Will he score goals? I think so, and as his game is more about craft than battering-ram tactics, let the younger, bigger, stronger Blissett sort out the physicals, and there you have it. With MT (who I also rate) as support its a "Yes" from me.
Only my opinion though.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 29, 2014 18:55:06 GMT
Would you mind the club paying him 5k a weel if it meant he scored the goals that got us promoted?
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Post by socrates on Dec 29, 2014 19:02:05 GMT
Would you mind the club paying him 5k a weel if it meant he scored the goals that got us promoted? I think well get promoted without him but yes if it was guaranteed that we'd win promotion if we signed him on 5 k a week on an 18 month contract I'd go with that. Thing is there's no guarantees in football and if we signed him and didn't go up we'd be in a right mess. 5 k a week is a gamble I don't think the club will take.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 29, 2014 19:05:39 GMT
The problem then is if he wants a 2 year contract and we don't go up!
As I said earlier in the thread £2k per week, with an 18 month contract seems reasonable for all parties. If Pompey etc can offer him more, and he fancies the move, then good luck to him.
As far as putting more fans on the gate surely that will only happen if he scores from the off, and we wouldn't have won without his goals how do you work that we say he'd increase gates by a certain figure. Although you can work out what failure to get promoted will cost. At least the £500K parachute payment for starters.
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Post by UpTheGas on Dec 29, 2014 19:08:43 GMT
I really, really, really don't want to see us go down the route of paying vast sums of money on wages for a player like we have up until this season. It has condemned us to failure before and after all DC's hard work in the summer to build a squad capable of promotion without handing out silly contracts, we shouldn't ruin it by going gung-ho on one player.
However, Matt Tubbs is a goalscorer at this level and the one above and those types of player are not easy to find and sign. We are told Tubbs is good friends with DC, has lived/played locally before and is after a permanent contract somewhere and if that puts us in a position where a deal can be agreed that suits BRFC, MT and Bournemouth then we are on to a winner in my opinion. Signing a striker isn't as essential as it was a couple of months ago but Tubbs could well be the difference between play-offs and automatic promotion.
A 2 year deal (edit: 18 months) on fair wages would be suitable because if we do go up we will have a proven League Two scorer already in our ranks. Then with Blissett and Matty Taylor we have two other strikers who are only going to get better and better and that would give us a very good strike force that would need little improvement in the summer.
Of course, it's all speculation at this point but the rumour refuses to go away and I do now wonder whether there is something in it. Roll on January.
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Post by RD on Dec 29, 2014 19:11:14 GMT
Would you mind the club paying him 5k a weel if it meant he scored the goals that got us promoted? I don't mind the club paying him £20k a week IF we could afford it (obviously that's a tongue in cheek example). The point is I have no problem with what we'd pay him if we work out the budget and believe it's affordable. What we can't do is let ourselves get enticed by a "big name" and end up getting a player on a long contract on a ridiculous salary as, IMO, that's one of the main reasons we are where we are now.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 29, 2014 19:17:56 GMT
Fortunately DC seems to be very shrewd with his transfer business so I can't see us doing anything silly to sign this guy.
What we really need is for someone to sign Akinde.
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Post by surreygas on Dec 29, 2014 20:11:53 GMT
A lot of people on here are forgetting that he got £5k a week with a Championship team in expectation that he would be a success in the championship. He clearly isn't good enough to play in the Championship so is not worth £5k a week when his contract expires so he will have to lower his salary expectations. He is a good league 2 striker but the market in that league pays much less than that. Anyone paying more that £2k a week would be stretching themselves too far - Pompey are still paying huge salaries to players no longer with them so I dont think they can afford even £2k per week. I think we can compete financially with league 2 teams when it comes to ofering him a deal but he may prefer to stay in the league which is our biggest disadvantage.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 29, 2014 20:21:18 GMT
What we really need is for someone to sign Akinde. Maybe that someone could be us? Stranger things have happened in football!
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