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Post by EssoBlue on Dec 29, 2014 20:24:11 GMT
He might be currently on a contract worth 5k a week but there is no way Bournemouth will renew his contract for any amount. I reckon he would accept an offer between 2k & 3k per week and Bournemouth will be glad to get him off their books. He would be great for us in the Conference/League Two but he's not Championship/Premiership material.
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 29, 2014 21:24:37 GMT
He might be currently on a contract worth 5k a week but there is no way Bournemouth will renew his contract for any amount. I reckon he would accept an offer between 2k & 3k per week and Bournemouth will be glad to get him off their books. He would be great for us in the Conference/League Two but he's not Championship/Premiership material. i don't think any of this issue involves bournemouth really. He's out of contract with them in the summer and not a chance in hell he will have another contract. Why would he leave permanently in Jan if his new club are offering less than his (large) bournemouth wages? The issue surely then is who will he go on loan to this Jan, unless cherries pay him off with rest of his weekly salary, thus enabling a perm move. Sadly the problem we have is why would anyone who wants to earn a lge cobtract in the summer go down a level to a non-lge team, even if we are 2nd. No shop window. Having said that, things like the DC & west country connections might make this less than 'obvious'. Bottom line is that also need to be careful. He's not Jamie cureton (scored goals at all levels). he's had a couple of great years at conf level, good half a season at lge 2, then bits and bobs for 3 years since.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 21:27:54 GMT
I must be the only one actively dreading this move.
Just feels like this could all go really wrong.
Have to trust DC I guess.
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 29, 2014 21:38:51 GMT
P.s. Not sure if there is any difference between the tubbs story and tyrone barnett.
So similar. Massive transfer fee. Massive mistake. And also out of contract in summer, and on loan to lge 2 team. Slight difference is tubbs has had a good 4 months.
Steve Evans didn't half make crawley some cash!!
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Post by stevek192 on Dec 29, 2014 21:38:55 GMT
Hes not Jamie Cureton but he is 6 years younger and has always scored goals in the level he has played. There is no reason why he shouldn't score goals for us BUT there is always the problem that you pay a lot of money for someone and they are immediately injured. Its a difficult one to judge and we must rely on DC to make the right decision IF it is in his hands rather than in the Players agents hands.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 29, 2014 21:43:55 GMT
He might be currently on a contract worth 5k a week but there is no way Bournemouth will renew his contract for any amount. I reckon he would accept an offer between 2k & 3k per week and Bournemouth will be glad to get him off their books. He would be great for us in the Conference/League Two but he's not Championship/Premiership material. i don't think any of this issue involves bournemouth really. He's out of contract with them in the summer and not a chance in hell he will have another contract. Why would he leave permanently in Jan if his new club are offering less than his (large) bournemouth wages? The issue surely then is who will he go on loan to this Jan, unless cherries pay him off with rest of his weekly salary, thus enabling a perm move. Sadly the problem we have is why would anyone who wants to earn a lge cobtract in the summer go down a level to a non-lge team, even if we are 2nd. No shop window. Having said that, things like the DC & west country connections might make this less than 'obvious'. Bottom line is that also need to be careful. He's not Jamie cureton (scored goals at all levels). he's had a couple of great years at conf level, good half a season at lge 2, then bits and bobs for 3 years since. If he joins us and helps us get promoted he will earn a good contract with us next summer. He won't need to worry about being in a shop window?
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 29, 2014 21:44:59 GMT
I meant he's not the player JC was / had the career JC has had, and thus any wages should take that into consideration. should also not be shamelessly courted the way constable was.
I prob should have choosen a different example. Carl Saunders maybe. Or john Taylor. Both players who proved themselves at a high level.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 21:53:37 GMT
DC said he would only sign players for the right reasons and that anyone who asked about money was shown the door.
5k a week and shop windows goes against every principle he's held up doesn't it?
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Post by Strange Gas on Dec 29, 2014 22:01:35 GMT
I must be the only one actively dreading this move. Just feels like this could all go really wrong. Have to trust DC I guess. Agree, we don't need to go silly in January, dc has worked hard for a few months to build a team that now works. Sure it could do with a bit of strengthening but this has to be done in a measured way. Luckily I'd expect nothing less from him.
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Post by Fat Albert on Dec 29, 2014 22:49:23 GMT
He might be currently on a contract worth 5k a week but there is no way Bournemouth will renew his contract for any amount. I reckon he would accept an offer between 2k & 3k per week and Bournemouth will be glad to get him off their books. He would be great for us in the Conference/League Two but he's not Championship/Premiership material. i don't think any of this issue involves bournemouth really. He's out of contract with them in the summer and not a chance in hell he will have another contract. Why would he leave permanently in Jan if his new club are offering less than his (large) bournemouth wages? The issue surely then is who will he go on loan to this Jan, unless cherries pay him off with rest of his weekly salary, thus enabling a perm move. Sadly the problem we have is why would anyone who wants to earn a lge cobtract in the summer go down a level to a non-lge team, even if we are 2nd. No shop window. Having said that, things like the DC & west country connections might make this less than 'obvious'. Bottom line is that also need to be careful. He's not Jamie cureton (scored goals at all levels). he's had a couple of great years at conf level, good half a season at lge 2, then bits and bobs for 3 years since. This He's not gonna write off 5k a week for 6 months so would be a loan at best. Plus if he waits till he is out of contract he can get himself a lovely signing on bonus in the summer because any new club won't have to pay a fee. Money talks, especially in lower leagues where the wages aren't astronomical like in the prem. Every penny counts.
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Post by socrates on Dec 29, 2014 22:59:02 GMT
I must be the only one actively dreading this move. Just feels like this could all go really wrong. Have to trust DC I guess. I'm With you there. If it was announced tomorrow that we had signed him on a two year deal on big money I'd be worried more than excited. Everything we've done this season in terms of signings has been different than last and signing tubbs would break that trend. I can't see it happening anyway.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 29, 2014 23:18:43 GMT
What if we announced we'd signed him for a figure which didn't break our present salary cap?
Given the club hardly seems flush with cash I can't imagine we're going to pay big money for any player anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 0:16:05 GMT
i would like to see goldberg stay all season and della verdi return,not keen on tubbs unless a loan deal at the right price was possible which i doubt
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 11:18:35 GMT
Offer him £2000 per goal, whatever shirt number he wants ("No, Matt you can't choose 69. Grow up.") and first choice of peg in the dressing room. Then sit back and relax as he scores a hat-trick in 2 of his first 3 games then does flip all the rest of the season.
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Post by Mark Ash on Dec 30, 2014 11:56:52 GMT
Offer him £2000 per goal, whatever shirt number he wants ("No, Matt you can't choose 69. Grow up.") and first choice of peg in the dressing room. Then sit back and relax as he scores a hat-trick in 2 of his first 3 games then does flip all the rest of the season. So £12,000 spent for 6 points... Perhaps we should get a sneaky lawyer to put in a clause written in size one font, which says that only vital goals count. So if he scored his hat-tricks in 3-2 wins, he'd get paid for all three goals, but if it was 3-0 he'd only get paid for the first one.
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Post by Mark Ash on Dec 30, 2014 12:32:04 GMT
Then sit back and relax as he scores a hat-trick in 2 of his first 3 games then does flip all the rest of the season. So £12,000 spent for 6 points... Perhaps we should get a sneaky lawyer to put in a clause written in size one font, which says that only vital goals count. So if he scored his hat-tricks in 3-2 wins, he'd get paid for all three goals, but if it was 3-0 he'd only get paid for the first one. (Which we could call the tboneTaylor clause, based on "doesn't count, we would have won anyway.")
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Post by alasitsgas on Dec 30, 2014 13:20:25 GMT
What if Tubbs becomes another JJ O Toole where he becomes a total distraction.We have players who have got us into 2nd place without him and if he comes in on a rumoured £5000.00pw the other players who may be on less money may well get p--sed right orf.I would, wouldn't you?
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Post by baggins on Dec 30, 2014 13:30:30 GMT
What if Tubbs becomes another JJ O Toole where he becomes a total distraction.We have players who have got us into 2nd place without him and if he comes in on a rumoured £5000.00pw the other players who may be on less money may well get p--sed right orf.I would, wouldn't you? Yep.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 13:36:10 GMT
Some of you got short memories,it was not that many games ago we were struggling to break down 10 man wrexham,or missing chances galore at welling.If we are gonna catch Barnet we need to up our game and keep the pressure on.Sometimes in games you may only get one half chance,this is where somebody like Tubbs would make it count.
In life as in football,you get what you pay for,nothing more nothing less.
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Post by baggins on Dec 30, 2014 13:41:24 GMT
Some of you got short memories,it was not that many games ago we were struggling to break down 10 man wrexham,or missing chances galore at welling.If we are gonna catch Barnet we need to up our game and keep the pressure on.Sometimes in games you may only get one half chance,this is where somebody like Tubbs would make it count. In life as in football,you get what you pay for,nothing more nothing less. We're winning everything we can with our current squad. Catching Barnet relies on Barnet slipping up not us spending money we don't have.
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