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Post by socrates on Dec 30, 2014 13:43:13 GMT
Some of you got short memories,it was not that many games ago we were struggling to break down 10 man wrexham,or missing chances galore at welling.If we are gonna catch Barnet we need to up our game and keep the pressure on.Sometimes in games you may only get one half chance,this is where somebody like Tubbs would make it count. In life as in football,you get what you pay for,nothing more nothing less. Totally disagree with the last bit. In Football as in all things in life players are often massively overpriced and there are also plenty of absolute bargains out there. A good lower league or non leagues manager knows how to spot the bargains. And then there are the managers like Mark Mc Ghee who thought if he paid out big bucks he'd get big results.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 13:44:33 GMT
Some of you got short memories,it was not that many games ago we were struggling to break down 10 man wrexham,or missing chances galore at welling.If we are gonna catch Barnet we need to up our game and keep the pressure on.Sometimes in games you may only get one half chance,this is where somebody like Tubbs would make it count. In life as in football,you get what you pay for,nothing more nothing less. He may well be value for money on paper but you have to look at how a player would fit and what impact he (or his contract) would have on the others in the squad and how you then deal with it if he gets injured or doesn't gel or doesn't get us up. Spunking our money on big contract white elephant signings is why we are here. I'd rather miss out this season than put our long term rebuilding at risk.
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Post by Mark Ash on Dec 30, 2014 13:45:03 GMT
Some of you got short memories,it was not that many games ago we were struggling to break down 10 man wrexham,or missing chances galore at welling.If we are gonna catch Barnet we need to up our game and keep the pressure on.Sometimes in games you may only get one half chance,this is where somebody like Tubbs would make it count. In life as in football,you get what you pay for,nothing more nothing less.If only that were true, we wouldn't be in the Conference.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 13:47:37 GMT
Some of you got short memories,it was not that many games ago we were struggling to break down 10 man wrexham,or missing chances galore at welling.If we are gonna catch Barnet we need to up our game and keep the pressure on.Sometimes in games you may only get one half chance,this is where somebody like Tubbs would make it count. In life as in football,you get what you pay for,nothing more nothing less. We're winning everything we can with our current squad. Catching Barnet relies on Barnet slipping up not us spending money we don't have. I disagree,we should be focused on our own game and making sure we win by strengthening the squad where it is needed,not hoping and praying Barnet slip up.
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Post by baggins on Dec 30, 2014 13:50:16 GMT
We're winning everything we can with our current squad. Catching Barnet relies on Barnet slipping up not us spending money we don't have. I disagree,we should be focused on our own game and making sure we win by strengthening the squad where it is needed,not hoping and praying Barnet slip up. We're winning aren't we? With our current squad? A win only brings 3 points no matter how much you've spent.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 13:53:35 GMT
We are winning, but scoring has been a problem.
I just don't think chucking one massive earner at the issue is sensible.
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Post by baggins on Dec 30, 2014 13:57:08 GMT
We are winning, but scoring has been a problem. I just don't think chucking one massive earner at the issue is sensible. Agreed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 13:57:11 GMT
I disagree,we should be focused on our own game and making sure we win by strengthening the squad where it is needed,not hoping and praying Barnet slip up. We're winning aren't we? With our current squad? A win only brings 3 points no matter how much you've spent. Yes at the moment i agree but we got some humdinger games coming up, Grimsby,Halifax,Macclesfield,Woking all away. We need to up the ante and go for it.
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Post by baggins on Dec 30, 2014 13:58:57 GMT
We're winning aren't we? With our current squad? A win only brings 3 points no matter how much you've spent. Yes at the moment i agree but we got some humdinger games coming up, Grimsby,Halifax,Macclesfield,Woking all away. We need to up the ante and go for it. Personally I think we already have a squad in place to do just that.
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Post by LJG on Dec 30, 2014 14:00:21 GMT
Some of you got short memories,it was not that many games ago we were struggling to break down 10 man wrexham,or missing chances galore at welling.If we are gonna catch Barnet we need to up our game and keep the pressure on.Sometimes in games you may only get one half chance,this is where somebody like Tubbs would make it count. In life as in football,you get what you pay for,nothing more nothing less.If only that were true, we wouldn't be in the Conference. Indeed not; we'd have been in the Scottish Premiership.
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Post by baggins on Dec 30, 2014 14:04:52 GMT
If only that were true, we wouldn't be in the Conference. Indeed not; we'd have been in the Scottish Premiership. Eew, Scottish Premiership?
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Post by Mark Ash on Dec 30, 2014 14:11:30 GMT
If only that were true, we wouldn't be in the Conference. Indeed not; we'd have been in the Scottish premiership. I just mean that we have spent a lot of money on people who have not improved our situation. It's very tempting to think we can land a superstar striker who's going to bang in 1.5 goals per game, but anyone that good would more likely be 'discovered' if he's going to do it in the Conference. If he's already known to be that good, he won't want to do it at this level, unless he's on the way down. Vast sums of money might persuade someone but that's so rarely effective because they just aren't hungry. Akinde hasn't been so good before, Barnet have either been clever or lucky with him.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 30, 2014 14:20:54 GMT
Indeed not; we'd have been in the Scottish premiership. I just mean that we have spent a lot of money on people who have not improved our situation. It's very tempting to think we can land a superstar striker who's going to bang in 1.5 goals per game, but anyone that good would more likely be 'discovered' if he's going to do it in the Conference. If he's already known to be that good, he won't want to do it at this level, unless he's on the way down. Vast sums of money might persuade someone but that's so rarely effective because they just aren't hungry. Akinde hasn't been so good before, Barnet have either been clever or lucky with him. Or signed him after a successful season banging in goals for Alfreton?
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Post by Mark Ash on Dec 30, 2014 14:29:44 GMT
I just mean that we have spent a lot of money on people who have not improved our situation. It's very tempting to think we can land a superstar striker who's going to bang in 1.5 goals per game, but anyone that good would more likely be 'discovered' if he's going to do it in the Conference. If he's already known to be that good, he won't want to do it at this level, unless he's on the way down. Vast sums of money might persuade someone but that's so rarely effective because they just aren't hungry. Akinde hasn't been so good before, Barnet have either been clever or lucky with him. Or signed him after a successful season banging in goals for Alfreton? Fair point, but my point is that it's not like buying a new car. You spend the bloody money and find the striker doesn't strike. It's certainly worth paying out for a 25-a-season man, if that's what you get, but if he doesn't deliver you don't get your money back, you get into worse and worse trouble, until you're in the Conference, trying to survive on loans and hopeful new faces. We're actually doing well with those and we have bought Blissett who looks good IMO. However if Tubbs arrives, I'll be excited as well as nervous. I was promised Aguero btw.
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Post by LJG on Dec 30, 2014 14:41:05 GMT
Indeed not; we'd have been in the Scottish premiership. I just mean that we have spent a lot of money on people who have not improved our situation. It's very tempting to think we can land a superstar striker who's going to bang in 1.5 goals per game, but anyone that good would more likely be 'discovered' if he's going to do it in the Conference. If he's already known to be that good, he won't want to do it at this level, unless he's on the way down. Vast sums of money might persuade someone but that's so rarely effective because they just aren't hungry. Akinde hasn't been so good before, Barnet have either been clever or lucky with him. I was doing a joke around the "get what you pay for" - We had a period paying for washed up Scottish footballers but we didn't get what we paid for - a Scottish premiership team ... or whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 14:44:16 GMT
People are missing the point that he's only rumoured to be on 5K a week, and even if that is the case his next contract will realisticly be around 2K a week, possibly pushing 3K depending who's interested.
Tubbs is a natural goal scorer at this level and is showing he can score at the level above, I for one would be very excited. I believe we can currently push Barnet right to the end, but with Tubbs on board I believe we'll finish top.
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Post by fanboy on Dec 30, 2014 14:47:58 GMT
DC knows Tubbs well. If he wants to bring him in and believes he's worth it, them I'm all for it. I have no reason not to trust DC.
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Post by lulworthgas on Dec 30, 2014 16:27:04 GMT
We're winning aren't we? With our current squad? A win only brings 3 points no matter how much you've spent. Yes at the moment i agree but we got some humdinger games coming up, Grimsby,Halifax,Macclesfield,Woking all away. We need to up the ante and go for it. Barnet are away to Grimsby, halifax and a resurgent lincoln all in January. Personally think the gap will be down to 2 points by end of jan.
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Post by Newton Abbot Gas on Dec 30, 2014 17:23:55 GMT
The GAS will be top by end of Feb..UTG
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 17:36:47 GMT
Short-term thinking to suggest that because we've scored plenty in the last few games, we don't need another striker. Our goals tally is well below some of those around us, and is in fact below a few in mid-table. It's improving, but there is still work to be done.
It's not games like Saturday which require an experienced striker, our forwards did brilliantly against Macc. Its games where we struggle to break down the lower teams (see Welling away, Alfreton away, Forest Green at home etc.) in which we need another option. Those sorts of games will ultimately cost us if we don't find another way of getting goals.
Even against Torquay and Macc, we still missed glaringly obvious chances which a more experienced player may have buried.
Having said that, there is no need to shell out a huge wage on somebody like Tubbs. Bournemouth will want to get rid permanently, so if he's willing to take a wage drop then bring it on. But if not, there are quite a few experienced goal scorers who find themselves on the fringes of other clubs who would love a final promotion push with us for 6 months.
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