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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 4, 2022 18:56:52 GMT
if barton won the premier league with us he would still find a negative out of it Think people are being harsh here. First question to ask yourself is whether the post in isolation is fair - I think it is. Is MB extremely vocal in his feelings towards JB - yes. If therefore, he is being unduly harsh, should that be pointed out - yes. But sometimes you need to look past the poster and just focus on the post; I think the post is fair and - had it been posted by a really big JB supporter I don't think anyone would be taking aim, instead they'd probably be agreeing... I don’t think anyone would have any problem with a poster calling Joe out on the fact he’s made a really weird decision. I think it’s the manner of how it’s being done, chucking around terms like ‘incompetent’, and having a meltdown that we need to go off and sign a whole load of players. I think we’d be a whole lot more concerned if we were pinning our hopes for this season on Westbrooke and Rodman. When in reality they were extremely unlikely to participate this season any way. The fact that some of these posters have form for slamming Joey doesn’t help. Specifically it doesn’t help them as it’s an easy rebuff. There’s weeks left of the transfer window yet. We got promoted last season. If we got players in earlier it wouldn’t necessarily be as good players as well hopefully eventually get in. The behaviour with Clarke is downright weird but there must be a good reason for his decision than pure changing his mind, there must be something behind the scenes that has triggered Joe.
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Post by pirate on Aug 4, 2022 19:02:34 GMT
Time will tell if it's the right decision, but at least Barton is making tough calls and when there is talk of clearing the decks, then that surely means making room for incoming. Clearing the decks to make room for incomings? The squad is already threadbare as it is and in need of additions and strengthening!
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Post by bidefordgas on Aug 4, 2022 19:04:11 GMT
Sorry tilly, you (we) didn't know about Anderton's situation in June how do you know rovers didn't know before it was made public I believe that they didn't - he wouldn't have been part of pre-season, and other players appear not have known at that point. My reading of this Tilly is that Anderton was having problems with his thigh towards the end of last season. He then came back after the break and it was giving him problems in early pre season. It was then investigated further and the recent diagnosis was reached a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by smudge1 on Aug 4, 2022 19:04:57 GMT
Think people are being harsh here. First question to ask yourself is whether the post in isolation is fair - I think it is. Is MB extremely vocal in his feelings towards JB - yes. If therefore, he is being unduly harsh, should that be pointed out - yes. But sometimes you need to look past the poster and just focus on the post; I think the post is fair and - had it been posted by a really big JB supporter I don't think anyone would be taking aim, instead they'd probably be agreeing... I don’t think anyone would have any problem with a poster calling Joe out on the fact he’s made a really weird decision. I think it’s the manner of how it’s being done, chucking around terms like ‘incompetent’, and having a meltdown that we need to go off and sign a whole load of players. I think we’d be a whole lot more concerned if we were pinning our hopes for this season on Westbrooke and Rodman. When in reality they were extremely unlikely to participate this season any way. The fact that some of these posters have form for slamming Joey doesn’t help. Specifically it doesn’t help them as it’s an easy rebuff. There’s weeks left of the transfer window yet. We got promoted last season. If we got players in earlier it wouldn’t necessarily be as good players as well hopefully eventually get in. The behaviour with Clarke is downright weird but there must be a good reason for his decision than pure changing his mind, there must be something behind the scenes that has triggered Joe. Could it be Joey has made a mistake, we all do it!
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Post by bluebiro on Aug 4, 2022 19:07:12 GMT
Damn I lost that list of 29000 footballers i recommended this week. Why doesn't the club ever contact me.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 4, 2022 19:07:16 GMT
Time will tell if it's the right decision, but at least Barton is making tough calls and when there is talk of clearing the decks, then that surely means making room for incoming. Clearing the decks to make room for incomings? The squad is already threadbare as it is and need of additions and strengthening! I thought our first 2 games were very winnable. The rest of the fixtures in August are tough. It's quite conceivable that we will be bottom with little or no points come September, and dumped out of 2 cup comps.
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Post by stapletongas on Aug 4, 2022 19:08:29 GMT
Time will tell if it's the right decision, but at least Barton is making tough calls and when there is talk of clearing the decks, then that surely means making room for incoming. Clearing the decks to make room for incomings? The squad is already threadbare as it is and need of additions and strengthening! In fairness we don’t know half of what’s going on behind the scenes and neither should we. If we want to compete in this league all 3 being let go are the right call. We need proven L1 players as we already have more than enough with little to no L1 experience who are having to raise their game. Sat both us and FGR looked like mediocre L2 teams and we lost. That alone should ring alarm bells. This squad needs to improve in quality and clearing out while we gave the chance is absolutely correct.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 4, 2022 19:09:28 GMT
I believe that they didn't - he wouldn't have been part of pre-season, and other players appear not have known at that point. My reading of this Tilly is that Anderton was having problems with his thigh towards the end of last season. He then came back after the break and it was giving him problems in early pre season. It was then investigated further and the recent diagnosis was reached a couple of weeks ago. Yes, I don't think that we anticipated how serious it would turn out to be.
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Post by bluebiro on Aug 4, 2022 19:10:11 GMT
Clearing the decks to make room for incomings? The squad is already threadbare as it is and need of additions and strengthening! I thought our first 2 games were very winnable. The rest of the fixtures in August are tough. It's quite conceivable that we will be bottom with little or no points come September, and dumped out of 2 cup comps. yep out of the fa cup and relegated the same week. Surprised we haven't closed the club down this week. Perhaps that's why t gorringe is abroad
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Post by percy on Aug 4, 2022 19:17:03 GMT
Not sure some people realise the is a BIG difference between saying a player can leave and him actually coming off the wage bill. All very odd. But happy to see some youngsters come in if they are good enough. Barton will Barton at the end of the day.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 4, 2022 19:19:28 GMT
He was under contract so what difference does interest from other clubs make? Has to be a disciplinary issue that will come out in the wash Nonsense JB threw Clarke under the bus in his post match presser, if it was disciplinary surely the club would look to dismiss him and save a small fortune on his wages? I'm surprised anybody joins us, as I'm not sure I'd be rushing to work for a total lose cannon, when there's 22 other L1 clubs I could join.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 4, 2022 19:20:33 GMT
Surprised Loft hasnt been named with these 3. Comes on and either gives away fouls or the ball every time You could say it's because JB won't admit he's made a mistake but that doesn't seem to have applied to Clarke!
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 4, 2022 19:22:46 GMT
He was under contract so what difference does interest from other clubs make? Has to be a disciplinary issue that will come out in the wash Nonsense JB threw Clarke under the bus in his post match presser, if it was disciplinary surely the club would look to dismiss him and save a small fortune on his wages? I'm surprised anybody joins us, as I'm not sure I'd be rushing to work for a total lose cannon, when there's 22 other L1 clubs I could join. ,Yet people who have played for him before are happy to sign for him again.
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Post by bidefordgas on Aug 4, 2022 19:25:20 GMT
Nonsense JB threw Clarke under the bus in his post match presser, if it was disciplinary surely the club would look to dismiss him and save a small fortune on his wages? I'm surprised anybody joins us, as I'm not sure I'd be rushing to work for a total lose cannon, when there's 22 other L1 clubs I could join. ,Yet people who have played for him before are happy to sign for him again. Topper the gift that keeps on giving! Another classic.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2022 19:26:40 GMT
promotion must have hurt you Ah yes, love when we get promoted to a higher league and our squad is worse than the one we finished the previous season with! Forest Green lost a lot of key players, manager, and still came to the mem and turned us over. I mention we were unprepared and everyone just talks about how promotion must have hurt me etc? Get a grip lad It's because you're so quick to criticise but slow or ignorant to praise. It's one game mate. I think we will finish above FGR in May and that is what matters. I'll tell you what, whoever is right gets to bump and boom this thread in May.
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Post by bluebiro on Aug 4, 2022 19:26:45 GMT
Nonsense JB threw Clarke under the bus in his post match presser, if it was disciplinary surely the club would look to dismiss him and save a small fortune on his wages? I'm surprised anybody joins us, as I'm not sure I'd be rushing to work for a total lose cannon, when there's 22 other L1 clubs I could join. ,Yet people who have played for him before are happy to sign for him again. and played with him. Not to mention loaning players to us as a club we previously could only dream off.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2022 19:27:06 GMT
Clarke is just bizarre. "Mistake offering him a contract". Why 2 years then? If you were having doubts, 1 year would have surely sufficed. Absolutely bizarre. Can only imagine something non-footballing is at play here - I.e. a falling out etc. As I think he played pretty well on Saturday; certainly not THAT bad. Speechless in all honesty. Drama drama drama
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2022 19:28:21 GMT
We’ve just got promoted ffs. Let’s see what comes of it. Clarke is weird. The other two most supporters would have got shot of in the summer anyway. Would have been a good response had we just had our first pre season game. We’re about to play the second game of the season, haven’t signed anyone in over a month, and the manager has just thrown his toys out crying about a player not being good enough who’s contract he extended himself only 2/3 months ago?! Not good enough Throwing his toys out of the pram you say? There's enough of that on here recently tbh. People need to chill out.
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Post by percy on Aug 4, 2022 19:30:28 GMT
Would have been a good response had we just had our first pre season game. We’re about to play the second game of the season, haven’t signed anyone in over a month, and the manager has just thrown his toys out crying about a player not being good enough who’s contract he extended himself only 2/3 months ago?! Not good enough Throwing his toys out of the pram you say? There's enough of that on here recently tbh. People need to chill out. Who would you play at left back on Saturday ? And are you happy we could pay 2 more years of Clarke’s salary than we needed? Not “toys out of pram” just discussion around more what appears to be knee jerk behaviour.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2022 19:31:22 GMT
Seems to me 4 posters are chucking their toys out the pram having been desperate to do so for a while but have been grossly disappointed that a promotion under extreme circumstances having been achieved. Come back in September when the window has closed and complain then. Plenty of business still to be done. Things looked gloomy last September. Come May it looked rosy. Absolutely no one is disappointed that we got promoted. The thing with some people on here is that they can’t have a discussion so just revert to bringing up unnecessary and irrelevant points and steer well off track because there’s no actual explanation to back up the points they’re trying to make. By the time we’re 13% of the way through the season hopefully we’ll have signed the 8 or so players we need. Nothing like being prepared All we're doing is shopping in the January sales rather than Xmas. Because we're in a different league now we're not a big fish. You will look silly in a couple of months and the only thing you will have to come back with me that we would have done even better if we were prepared before the season with the signings.
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