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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2022 19:34:26 GMT
Would you rather we signed sh** players now? Kept sh** players on or players who are disruptive to the dressing room? Just to be able to say we’re prepared? Or would you rather wait a few games in and sign players who will make a difference and allow us to compete? I know what I’d prefer. Our manager got us promoted last season. Certain posters have been very quiet for a while now. But now decide to pop up. I don’t think pointing that out is irrelevant. It’s demonstrating that our manager deserves a degree of trust based on his achievements last season. And that the season isn’t decided in the first few games. The issue is clearly that the manager gave a player a new 2 year contract and then throws him under the bus in the first game of the season and decides he no longer wants him. Westbrooke wasn’t with us last year yet he’s brought back into the fold and again after 1 game told to leave. These decisions could have been made over the summer. If he had done that he would have also had more room in his budget and a longer period of time to use it. If we kept sh** players on or players who were a nuisance then clearly we wouldn’t have entered the season prepared. But the manager has been around this group for long enough now to know who he wants to keep or who may be disruptive to the morale of the team. The season isn’t decided in the first few games but the season as a whole and that includes the first few. If we were to miss out on let’s say the title by a few points it would be because we were very incompetent leading up to game week 1. I should be able to call the manager out for the way he handles things without people ramming the fact that I don’t like him back as a sole response. I gave him his dues at the end of the season, this is a new one and it’s my opinion that we have started the season with a weaker squad than we finished with in a weaker league. I have yet to see a validated reason for offering a player a contract to then chuck said player under the bus and announce you didn’t want him or whatever just 2 months later. But that's not a good comparison, all our transfer business had been completed before the end of the season so of course we were stronger. We had a bloody good squad at the end of last season too, I mean the loanees we had are likely to be in the prem and champ this season. We will be a lot stronger come the end of the window.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2022 19:35:52 GMT
Absolutely no one is disappointed that we got promoted. The thing with some people on here is that they can’t have a discussion so just revert to bringing up unnecessary and irrelevant points and steer well off track because there’s no actual explanation to back up the points they’re trying to make. By the time we’re 13% of the way through the season hopefully we’ll have signed the 8 or so players we need. Nothing like being prepared Would you rather we signed sh** players now? Kept sh** players on or players who are disruptive to the dressing room? Just to be able to say we’re prepared? Or would you rather wait a few games in and sign players who will make a difference and allow us to compete? I know what I’d prefer. Our manager got us promoted last season. Certain posters have been very quiet for a while now. But now decide to pop up. I don’t think pointing that out is irrelevant. It’s demonstrating that our manager deserves a degree of trust based on his achievements last season. And that the season isn’t decided in the first few games. This! 👌🙌 I feel a bit dirty but feel like I am getting into bed with all the mods tonight. Up the mods 💐😘🥰
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 4, 2022 19:36:48 GMT
Theory after theory on here but truth is no one knows what the thinking is or what the plans are re signings , bit remiss of JB not to consult us forum members about these things though, perhaps he feels that after last season he is qualified to make the decisions all on his own!
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 4, 2022 19:40:28 GMT
Well that’s a shock.
352 at the Pirelli then with Super Harvey getting 90mins at LWB!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 4, 2022 19:40:46 GMT
Theory after theory on here but truth is no one knows what the thinking is or what the plans are re signings , bit remiss of JB not to consult us forum members about these things though, perhaps he feels that after last season he is qualified to make the decisions all on his own! Ignoring everything else, giving a player a 2-year deal and then cutting him loose after the next league game is absolutely bonkers. I don't buy into something happening behind the scenes either; he pretty much hung him out to dry in his post-match interview, and if anything had happened before that he wouldn't have played.
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Post by herbertblake on Aug 4, 2022 19:44:24 GMT
Comedy gold and surely shows publicly he is ruthless and continues to divide the fan base but does he care about that ...doubt it...providing the owner supports him and provides a budget. Taking on extra coaches when he terminated the development squad last season is still baffling. But what did we expect but controversy and headlines for the wrong reason?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2022 19:44:39 GMT
He was under contract so what difference does interest from other clubs make? Has to be a disciplinary issue that will come out in the wash Nonsense JB threw Clarke under the bus in his post match presser, if it was disciplinary surely the club would look to dismiss him and save a small fortune on his wages? I'm surprised anybody joins us, as I'm not sure I'd be rushing to work for a total lose cannon, when there's 22 other L1 clubs I could join. Lose cannon? I'm sure they'd rather win games than play for a cannon that keeps losing too. Also 22 other L1 clubs? What's happened to one of the teams in our league then, am I missing something? And like Tilly said plenty of ex players want to play under him again.
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Post by slimbridgegas on Aug 4, 2022 19:44:59 GMT
I think JB is being as honest he as can be about the Clarke situation ( maybe. Fall out ..who knows…he is closer to it than us and no mug! .) and the others to go are “no brainer”decisions. Either way, hopefully it goes in some way to sign some quality and maybe we have to dig deep to get Luke McCormick on board / Luke Thomas.
By early September things will become clearer as he looks to bring the GAS into shape. Evolution ! ……..And we are certainly evolving …. and some doors quietly revolving (((((🚪)))) 👍😜
No need to panic. UTG
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 4, 2022 19:48:12 GMT
I imagine a player or 3 have become available & the Westbrooke/Rodders wages would go some way to securing services. Clarke possibly a massive falling out & another opportunity to free up some spends.
Just a theory of course.
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Post by smudge1 on Aug 4, 2022 19:51:33 GMT
I imagine a player or 3 have become available & the Westbrooke/Rodders wages would go some way to securing services. Clarke possibly a massive falling out & another opportunity to free up some spends. Just a theory of course. Apparently Charlton are desperate for a left back! Perhaps JB had an inkling and gave him the contract to get a fee! Only JB knows! ( And TC)
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Post by richie on Aug 4, 2022 19:53:24 GMT
Rodman is a fraud of a player he’s been so looked after here, can’t believe people haven’t turned on him.
Clarke is a mistake but not as costly as Westbrooke can’t wait for all three to go
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 4, 2022 19:54:12 GMT
I imagine a player or 3 have become available & the Westbrooke/Rodders wages would go some way to securing services. Clarke possibly a massive falling out & another opportunity to free up some spends. Just a theory of course. yes, but as theories go ,not a bad one!
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 4, 2022 20:06:25 GMT
Rodman is a fraud of a player he’s been so looked after here, can’t believe people haven’t turned on him. Clarke is a mistake but not as costly as Westbrooke can’t wait for all three to go Rodman - you won't find a player who takes his own health and fitness more seriously, he's the club's Education Ambassador and does a lot of work for the CT, when he's not in the squad he always attends games (players are not obliged to), he attended all the pre-season games and helped out behind the scenes, managers who have worked with him describe him as a model professional. How is any of that fruadulent and why would supporters turn on him?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2022 20:07:37 GMT
Rodman is a fraud of a player he’s been so looked after here, can’t believe people haven’t turned on him. Clarke is a mistake but not as costly as Westbrooke can’t wait for all three to go Rodman - you won't find a player who takes his own health and fitness more seriously, he's the club's Education Ambassador and does a lot of work for the CT, when he's not in the squad he always attends games (players are not obliged to), he attended all the pre-season games and helped out behind the scenes, managers who have worked with him describe him as a model professional. How is any of that fruadulent and why would supporters turn on him? Yep, he's the most professional golfer I know 😉
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Post by eric on Aug 4, 2022 20:08:58 GMT
Comedy gold and surely shows publicly he is ruthless and continues to divide the fan base but does he care about that ...doubt it...providing the owner supports him and provides a budget. Taking on extra coaches when he terminated the development squad last season is still baffling. But what did we expect but controversy and headlines for the wrong reason? Not sure about dividing the fanbase. Seems to me that 99% trust him and back his judgement. The remaining 1% hated him from day one and will always hate him. They go quiet when things are going well and whenever something doesn’t appear to be going well they are all over it. Nothing will ever change that. Even if he won consecutive promotions, premier league win followed by champions league win, a successful champions league defence he wouldn’t get credit !!!
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 4, 2022 20:11:00 GMT
Rodman - you won't find a player who takes his own health and fitness more seriously, he's the club's Education Ambassador and does a lot of work for the CT, when he's not in the squad he always attends games (players are not obliged to), he attended all the pre-season games and helped out behind the scenes, managers who have worked with him describe him as a model professional. How is any of that fruadulent and why would supporters turn on him? Yep, he's the most professional golfer I know 😉 The only time he played golf in the close season was on the club trip to Dubai.
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Post by bluebiro on Aug 4, 2022 20:22:08 GMT
Comedy gold and surely shows publicly he is ruthless and continues to divide the fan base but does he care about that ...doubt it...providing the owner supports him and provides a budget. Taking on extra coaches when he terminated the development squad last season is still baffling. But what did we expect but controversy and headlines for the wrong reason? Not sure about dividing the fanbase. Seems to me that 99% trust him and back his judgement. The remaining 1% hated him from day one and will always hate him. They go quiet when things are going well and whenever something doesn’t appear to be going well they are all over it. Nothing will ever change that. Even if he won consecutive promotions, premier league win followed by champions league win, a successful champions league defence he wouldn’t get credit !!! that sounds like the few who have it in for the manager.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 4, 2022 20:26:08 GMT
Nonsense JB threw Clarke under the bus in his post match presser, if it was disciplinary surely the club would look to dismiss him and save a small fortune on his wages? I'm surprised anybody joins us, as I'm not sure I'd be rushing to work for a total lose cannon, when there's 22 other L1 clubs I could join. Lose cannon? I'm sure they'd rather win games than play for a cannon that keeps losing too. Also 22 other L1 clubs? What's happened to one of the teams in our league then, am I missing something? And like Tilly said plenty of ex players want to play under him again. Would they, think I'd sooner play (work anyway) for a manager who treated me with respect, if this is the Barton we see in public then you do wonder what goes on behind closed doors. Your missing the fact the 23rd club is Rovers!! Some people like working for managers we'd never work with, it doesn't mean the majority would work with them, there must be a reason we're struggling to sign so many players, it can't just all be down to JB hoping to get the best deals.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 4, 2022 20:27:17 GMT
Lose cannon? I'm sure they'd rather win games than play for a cannon that keeps losing too. Also 22 other L1 clubs? What's happened to one of the teams in our league then, am I missing something? And like Tilly said plenty of ex players want to play under him again. Would they, think I'd sooner play (work anyway) for a manager who treated me with respect, if this is the Barton we see in public then you do wonder what goes on behind closed doors. Your missing the fact the 23rd club is Rovers!! Some people like working for managers we'd never work with, it doesn't mean the majority would work with them, there must be a reason we're struggling to sign so many players, it can't just all be down to JB hoping to get the best deals. Who are the 24th club then?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2022 20:31:04 GMT
Lose cannon? I'm sure they'd rather win games than play for a cannon that keeps losing too. Also 22 other L1 clubs? What's happened to one of the teams in our league then, am I missing something? And like Tilly said plenty of ex players want to play under him again. Would they, think I'd sooner play (work anyway) for a manager who treated me with respect, if this is the Barton we see in public then you do wonder what goes on behind closed doors. Your missing the fact the 23rd club is Rovers!! Some people like working for managers we'd never work with, it doesn't mean the majority would work with them, there must be a reason we're struggling to sign so many players, it can't just all be down to JB hoping to get the best deals. We've got a double WHOOOOOSSSHHH from Topper. ££££££££££££££££££££
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