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Post by fintanstack on Sept 15, 2022 4:44:32 GMT
I hope no-one minds me saying this. I have, in my disrespectful moments, wondered what might happen if they actually dropped the coffin. Would never happen with our disciplined troops of course, but they must be slightly nervous about unforeseen trips and falls. I remember the funeral of Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran. The Revolutionary Guards dropped the coffin, his body fell out, and hundreds of worshippers swooped on him to touch his revered body. Shots had to be fired to disperse the crowd and they bundled the fellow into a helicopter to keep the body safe. Can't see that happening here, but forewarned is forearmed. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Queen’s coffin is reinforced and specially designed not to break in the case of something like that happens. Not based on anything, just a hunch. I would be surprised if she was even in there at all for the majority of her UK road trip. Why risk it? She is probably safely resting elsewhere while an empty coffin does the rounds. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 15, 2022 6:28:41 GMT
It wouldn’t surprise me if the Queen’s coffin is reinforced and specially designed not to break in the case of something like that happens. Not based on anything, just a hunch. I would be surprised if she was even in there at all for the majority of her UK road trip. Why risk it? She is probably safely resting elsewhere while an empty coffin does the rounds. There is something very Monty Python about that suggestion |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Sept 15, 2022 7:21:06 GMT
I am a staunch Royalist and fully behind institutions, retail and the like closing their doors on the 19th BUT i do not agree with the NHS cancelling appointments of any nature, you can be sure H.M would be horrified to learn of such decisions and i believe it is a huge mistake.
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 15, 2022 7:32:12 GMT
I am a staunch Royalist and fully behind institutions, retail and the like closing their doors on the 19th BUT i do not agree with the NHS cancelling appointments of any nature, you can be sure H.M would be horrified to learn of such decisions and i believe it is a huge mistake. Apparently it's a contractual obligation. |
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 15, 2022 7:36:52 GMT
I would be surprised if she was even in there at all for the majority of her UK road trip. Why risk it? She is probably safely resting elsewhere while an empty coffin does the rounds. There is something very Monty Python about that suggestion The coffin is lead lined,hence the need for 8 pallbearers,must be bloody heavy. |
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 15, 2022 7:42:41 GMT
I hope no-one minds me saying this. I have, in my disrespectful moments, wondered what might happen if they actually dropped the coffin. Would never happen with our disciplined troops of course, but they must be slightly nervous about unforeseen trips and falls. I remember the funeral of Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran. The Revolutionary Guards dropped the coffin, his body fell out, and hundreds of worshippers swooped on him to touch his revered body. Shots had to be fired to disperse the crowd and they bundled the fellow into a helicopter to keep the body safe. Can't see that happening here, but forewarned is forearmed. Blimey , really I didn’t Know that !? The queen had 8 blokes for a small woman … 8 st max ? Recently did my own mother with my 3 siblings and she was probably 11 stone . Not much chance of 8 burley blokes collapsing under the weight on this occasion I think ! Yatton,it's lead lined hence the 8 pallbearers |
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 15, 2022 7:43:39 GMT
I would be surprised if she was even in there at all for the majority of her UK road trip. Why risk it? She is probably safely resting elsewhere while an empty coffin does the rounds. There is something very Monty Python about that suggestion Or Dave Allen🤭 |
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Post by oldie on Sept 15, 2022 8:07:05 GMT
There is something very Monty Python about that suggestion Or Dave Allen🤭 Indeed🤫🤭 |
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Post by DrFaustus on Sept 15, 2022 8:16:52 GMT
How can the royal family be held accountable for police lies and cover ups? Because they are beneficiaries of an unaccountable State who are used for the purposes of propaganda. Buy it if you choose. Nothing to "buy", I just cannot fathom how you believe the royals are in any way connected to the web of.lies, deceit and conspiracy that the South Yorkshire police and others concocted. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 15, 2022 8:19:27 GMT
Hopefully the family get some time to mourn in private now. Huge responsibility for the young soldiers carrying the Queen's coffin, eyes of the world upon them, and they don't put a foot wrong. I hope no-one minds me saying this. I have, in my disrespectful moments, wondered what might happen if they actually dropped the coffin. Would never happen with our disciplined troops of course, but they must be slightly nervous about unforeseen trips and falls. I remember the funeral of Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran. The Revolutionary Guards dropped the coffin, his body fell out, and hundreds of worshippers swooped on him to touch his revered body. Shots had to be fired to disperse the crowd and they bundled the fellow into a helicopter to keep the body safe. Can't see that happening here, but forewarned is forearmed. Having a vested interest in that part of the world, oh how we laughed when that happened. A year to late sadly, in the preceding 12 to 18 months his regime rounded up anyone who had been in opposition to the Shah but opposed a theocratic regime, imprisoned them, tortured them and had them shot. I am told upto 50,000 lost their lives. We never quite managed that here, but we tried in the Peterloo Massacre, how dare those people demonstrate!!! Of course during Elizabeth's time on the throne we killed around 11,000 Kenyans who dared to oppose our colonial rule of that country, including over a 1,000 people hung. How dare they oppose our colonial imposition. I believe she was there celebrating our rule there when her father died and she became Queen. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 15, 2022 8:21:45 GMT
Because they are beneficiaries of an unaccountable State who are used for the purposes of propaganda. Buy it if you choose. Nothing to "buy", I just cannot fathom how you believe the royals are in any way connected to the web of.lies, deceit and conspiracy that the South Yorkshire police and others concocted. Are you seriously suggesting any head of state is not accountable for the actions of their executive? Interesting concept. Perhaps you believe in the divine right of kings (Queens)? |
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Post by DrFaustus on Sept 15, 2022 8:33:51 GMT
Nothing to "buy", I just cannot fathom how you believe the royals are in any way connected to the web of.lies, deceit and conspiracy that the South Yorkshire police and others concocted. Are you seriously suggesting any head of state is not accountable for the actions of their executive? Interesting concept. Perhaps you believe in the divine right of kings (Queens)? Please don't put words in my mouth, Les. Read again and come back when you're not so myopic. I'm ambivalent towards the monarchy, by the way. |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 15, 2022 8:39:06 GMT
Blimey , really I didn’t Know that !? The queen had 8 blokes for a small woman … 8 st max ? Recently did my own mother with my 3 siblings and she was probably 11 stone . Not much chance of 8 burley blokes collapsing under the weight on this occasion I think ! Yatton,it's lead lined hence the 8 pallbearers Yeah , just heard that this morning . Shows how much attention I’ve been paying 😂. Tried to avoid as much as possible . |
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Post by oldie on Sept 15, 2022 8:50:36 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting any head of state is not accountable for the actions of their executive? Interesting concept. Perhaps you believe in the divine right of kings (Queens)? Please don't put words in my mouth, Les. Read again and come back when you're not so myopic. I'm ambivalent towards the monarchy, by the way. Sure, I would have thought you might be (ambivalent). But the point remains that the Head of State is accountable for the executive. Unless of course in the UK they are actually not. If this is the case then that begs the question of exactly what "decades of selfless service" means, given the relentless propaganda, 24/7 currently, rammed down our throats. On myopia, perhaps, given that I am not ambivalent on the monarchy. |
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 15, 2022 9:15:30 GMT
Yatton,it's lead lined hence the 8 pallbearers Yeah , just heard that this morning . Shows how much attention I’ve been paying 😂. Tried to avoid as much as possible . Pay more attention,100 lines otherwise 😊 |
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 15, 2022 9:21:32 GMT
Please don't put words in my mouth, Les. Read again and come back when you're not so myopic. I'm ambivalent towards the monarchy, by the way. Sure, I would have thought you might be (ambivalent). But the point remains that the Head of State is accountable for the executive. Unless of course in the UK they are actually not. If this is the case then that begs the question of exactly what "decades of selfless service" means, given the relentless propaganda, 24/7 currently, rammed down our throats. On myopia, perhaps, given that I am not ambivalent on the monarchy. A genuine question,if we did not have a monarchy in the last 300 years would we have had the Empire? |
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Post by oldie on Sept 15, 2022 9:53:33 GMT
Sure, I would have thought you might be (ambivalent). But the point remains that the Head of State is accountable for the executive. Unless of course in the UK they are actually not. If this is the case then that begs the question of exactly what "decades of selfless service" means, given the relentless propaganda, 24/7 currently, rammed down our throats. On myopia, perhaps, given that I am not ambivalent on the monarchy. A genuine question,if we did not have a monarchy in the last 300 years would we have had the Empire? To many variables possible to answer that in reality. |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 15, 2022 9:53:58 GMT
Yeah , just heard that this morning . Shows how much attention I’ve been paying 😂. Tried to avoid as much as possible . Pay more attention,100 lines otherwise 😊 Sorry 😞. Fascinating that so many are fascinated. Imagine queuing for hours just to walk past a ( iron clad !) wooden box . Each to their own I guess . |
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Post by oldie on Sept 15, 2022 9:54:45 GMT
Pay more attention,100 lines otherwise 😊 Sorry 😞. Fascinating that so many are fascinated. Imagine queuing for hours just to walk past a ( iron clad !) wooden box . Each to their own I guess . Brainwashing is such a powerful tool of oppression |
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Post by fintanstack on Sept 15, 2022 10:38:02 GMT
Because they are beneficiaries of an unaccountable State who are used for the purposes of propaganda. Buy it if you choose. Nothing to "buy", I just cannot fathom how you believe the royals are in any way connected to the web of.lies, deceit and conspiracy that the South Yorkshire police and others concocted. What are your thoughts on Andrew and the Queens role in sheltering and funding payouts for him? |
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