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Post by aghast on Sept 9, 2022 22:31:58 GMT
Yes very clever of you to try and twist my words. Well done. As you well know, what is happening is a return to the status quo, overturning recent decades where society was changing. But be a smartass if you like, as you are in most of your posts. If it makes you happy... Sounds like you’re the status quo mate. Women have had abortion rights since 1967, and I’m not aware of any deterioration in U.K. employment law. I think the old status quo hasn’t been around since most of us were born. Marvellous. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 10, 2022 6:20:51 GMT
I am not a royalist whatsoever, but I have always felt the Queen just had a special aura about her.
RIP Your Majesty.
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Post by francegas on Sept 10, 2022 8:27:10 GMT
Such a shame but you must be proud. Funny that people don't appreciate quite how many British forces were involved in Omaha. Very proud Stuart,yep the Americans basically erased from history our contribution at Omaha,helped by Spielbergs portrayal in Saving PTE Ryan. Another anecdote Dad told me he was caring for a wounded German officer on the way back to Portsmouth,the guy was very concerned mid channel because he had been told mid channel the LTA opened its bow doors and pushed the Germans into the sea,when they arrived in Portsmouth the officer had nothing to give my Dad for the care he had received so he tore of his Afrika corps ensignia and gave them to him,when I was clearing Dad's house we found them in my Dad's old war leather wallet,how poignant. I totally agree with you about the effect American WW2 films has had on the UK contribution to D Day so much so that let's say the less knowledgeable locals here firmly believe they are just indebted to the Americans for the liberation of France. My Grandfather was a Captain in the Royal Engineers and was on the landing crafts although I don't know at which beach because likewise he never discussed his experience there . He was happy to discuss his experience at Dunkirk though, where he made sure everyone under his command were safely on a boat but when it came to him there were no more boats. He had two decisions to make either become a POW or swim. Being a good swimmer he took off his tunic and boots put a photo of Mum in his back pocket and swam. He got half across where he was picked up by a British destroyer. There is an old black and white movie based on Dunkirk that ends with a lone swimmer being picked up. My Grandfather always said that ending was him... I never had the heart to say you probably weren't the only one who took the decision to swim. But I was immensely proud of him. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 10, 2022 8:32:24 GMT
Very proud Stuart,yep the Americans basically erased from history our contribution at Omaha,helped by Spielbergs portrayal in Saving PTE Ryan. Another anecdote Dad told me he was caring for a wounded German officer on the way back to Portsmouth,the guy was very concerned mid channel because he had been told mid channel the LTA opened its bow doors and pushed the Germans into the sea,when they arrived in Portsmouth the officer had nothing to give my Dad for the care he had received so he tore of his Afrika corps ensignia and gave them to him,when I was clearing Dad's house we found them in my Dad's old war leather wallet,how poignant. I totally agree with you about the effect American WW2 films has had on the UK contribution to D Day so much so that let's say the less knowledgeable locals here firmly believe they are just indebted to the Americans for the liberation of France. My Grandfather was a Captain in the Royal Engineers and was on the landing crafts although I don't know at which beach because likewise he never discussed his experience there . He was happy to discuss his experience at Dunkirk though, where he made sure everyone under his command were safely on a boat but when it came to him there were no more boats. He had two decisions to make either become a POW or swim. Being a good swimmer he took off his tunic and boots put a photo of Mum in his back pocket and swam. He got half across where he was picked up by a British destroyer. There is an old black and white movie based on Dunkirk that ends with a lone swimmer being picked up. My Grandfather always said that ending was him... I never had the heart to say you probably weren't the only one who took the decision to swim. But I was immensely proud of him. We should all be proud of people like him. There was a poster on here a while back claiming Britain had a minimal part at best in the Normandy Landings. He was soon corrected, not that I think he really believed us. Hollywood and people's knowledge can be annoying. |
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Post by pirate on Sept 10, 2022 8:37:06 GMT
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 10, 2022 8:44:54 GMT
Very proud Stuart,yep the Americans basically erased from history our contribution at Omaha,helped by Spielbergs portrayal in Saving PTE Ryan. Another anecdote Dad told me he was caring for a wounded German officer on the way back to Portsmouth,the guy was very concerned mid channel because he had been told mid channel the LTA opened its bow doors and pushed the Germans into the sea,when they arrived in Portsmouth the officer had nothing to give my Dad for the care he had received so he tore of his Afrika corps ensignia and gave them to him,when I was clearing Dad's house we found them in my Dad's old war leather wallet,how poignant. I totally agree with you about the effect American WW2 films has had on the UK contribution to D Day so much so that let's say the less knowledgeable locals here firmly believe they are just indebted to the Americans for the liberation of France. My Grandfather was a Captain in the Royal Engineers and was on the landing crafts although I don't know at which beach because likewise he never discussed his experience there . He was happy to discuss his experience at Dunkirk though, where he made sure everyone under his command were safely on a boat but when it came to him there were no more boats. He had two decisions to make either become a POW or swim. Being a good swimmer he took off his tunic and boots put a photo of Mum in his back pocket and swam. He got half across where he was picked up by a British destroyer. There is an old black and white movie based on Dunkirk that ends with a lone swimmer being picked up. My Grandfather always said that ending was him... I never had the heart to say you probably weren't the only one who took the decision to swim. But I was immensely proud of him. Wow that is amazing takes some balls to choose to swim the channel,they were an extraordinary generation. |
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 10, 2022 8:47:33 GMT
I totally agree with you about the effect American WW2 films has had on the UK contribution to D Day so much so that let's say the less knowledgeable locals here firmly believe they are just indebted to the Americans for the liberation of France. My Grandfather was a Captain in the Royal Engineers and was on the landing crafts although I don't know at which beach because likewise he never discussed his experience there . He was happy to discuss his experience at Dunkirk though, where he made sure everyone under his command were safely on a boat but when it came to him there were no more boats. He had two decisions to make either become a POW or swim. Being a good swimmer he took off his tunic and boots put a photo of Mum in his back pocket and swam. He got half across where he was picked up by a British destroyer. There is an old black and white movie based on Dunkirk that ends with a lone swimmer being picked up. My Grandfather always said that ending was him... I never had the heart to say you probably weren't the only one who took the decision to swim. But I was immensely proud of him. We should all be proud of people like him. There was a poster on here a while back claiming Britain had a minimal part at best in the Normandy Landings. He was soon corrected, not that I think he really believed us. Hollywood and people's knowledge can be annoying. . Yep it's interesting,never let the facts stand in the way of a good story,that generation were incredible. |
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 10, 2022 9:47:52 GMT
A very sad 48 hours remembering our wonderful Queen Elizabeth, I can’t quite believe she’s gone, she’s just always been there. Genuinely feels like the world is a different place already. Im not a fan or supporter of just about any politician but some of the tributes in our House of Commons and around the world have been first class, and a beautiful speech from Charles last night. Stand down ma’am you’ve carried out your duty with distinction, now go and join members of your family who have already passed, they’re waiting to be with you once again. Rest in Peace your majesty.  |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 10, 2022 10:50:09 GMT
We should all be proud of people like him. There was a poster on here a while back claiming Britain had a minimal part at best in the Normandy Landings. He was soon corrected, not that I think he really believed us. Hollywood and people's knowledge can be annoying. . Yep it's interesting,never let the facts stand in the way of a good story,that generation were incredible. Yep, and Braveheart was a biopic. 😁 |
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 10, 2022 11:13:43 GMT
. Yep it's interesting,never let the facts stand in the way of a good story,that generation were incredible. Yep, and Braveheart was a biopic. 😁 Aye right,they didn't even have kilts then ffs. Watched the King's proclamation,living history on the TV,the language and process is extraordinary and meticulously planned,loved the Coldstream Guards laying their rifles down. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 10, 2022 17:38:14 GMT
Trevor Sinclair, what a knob.
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Post by fintanstack on Sept 10, 2022 17:46:22 GMT
Trevor Sinclair, what a knob. What did he say that was wrong? |
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Post by francegas on Sept 10, 2022 17:54:23 GMT
A very sad couple of days. I'm not ashamed to say I am a royalist.
Queen Elizabeth served her people and country for 70 years of her life... a quite remarkable achievement.
Her time has come to pass on the reign to Charles and she can now spend eternity with Philip.
Rest in peace your Majesty
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 10, 2022 17:54:46 GMT
Trevor Sinclair, what a knob. What did he say that was wrong? He's a racist, it was really ill timing and he was a practically calling a 96 year old lady who had literally just died a racist. Oh and if that's not cowardly enough he is now trying to play the victim again by using the mental health card as the race card has backfired on him. Which is then undermining people who actually have serious mental health issues. |
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Post by popuppirate on Sept 10, 2022 18:13:21 GMT
What did he say that was wrong? He's a racist, it was really ill timing and he was a practically calling a 96 year old lady who had literally just died a racist. Oh and if that's not cowardly enough he is now trying to play the victim again by using the mental health card as the race card has backfired on him. Which is then undermining people who actually have serious mental health issues. So calling out an establishment for being inherently racist is racist ? The timing was questionable but he's entitled to call it out if that's how he sees it. It's odd that the generally anti-woke brigade have suddenly become so sensitive on these matters |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 10, 2022 18:16:31 GMT
He's a racist, it was really ill timing and he was a practically calling a 96 year old lady who had literally just died a racist. Oh and if that's not cowardly enough he is now trying to play the victim again by using the mental health card as the race card has backfired on him. Which is then undermining people who actually have serious mental health issues. So calling out an establishment for being inherently racist is racist ? The timing was questionable but he's entitled to call it out if that's how he sees it. It's odd that the generally anti-woke brigade have suddenly become so sensitive on these matters Seperating browns and blacks on a social platform certainly doesn't help lower racism. And he has previously racially abused a police officer. So yes he is a racist. A racist that will be out of a job too any time soon. So yes I will call him a racist. |
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Post by fintanstack on Sept 10, 2022 18:18:52 GMT
He's a racist, it was really ill timing and he was a practically calling a 96 year old lady who had literally just died a racist. Oh and if that's not cowardly enough he is now trying to play the victim again by using the mental health card as the race card has backfired on him. Which is then undermining people who actually have serious mental health issues. So calling out an establishment for being inherently racist is racist ? The timing was questionable but he's entitled to call it out if that's how he sees it. It's odd that the generally anti-woke brigade have suddenly become so sensitive on these matters It is not news to learn the Palace has been accused of racism. One of their own said as much. Philip was known to be racist was he not? |
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Post by fintanstack on Sept 10, 2022 18:19:32 GMT
So calling out an establishment for being inherently racist is racist ? The timing was questionable but he's entitled to call it out if that's how he sees it. It's odd that the generally anti-woke brigade have suddenly become so sensitive on these matters Seperating browns and blacks on a social platform certainly doesn't help lower racism. And he has previously racially abused a police officer. So yes he is a racist. A racist that will be out of a job too any time soon. So yes I will call him a racist. You are correct. He is racist too. |
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Post by popuppirate on Sept 10, 2022 18:29:50 GMT
So calling out an establishment for being inherently racist is racist ? The timing was questionable but he's entitled to call it out if that's how he sees it. It's odd that the generally anti-woke brigade have suddenly become so sensitive on these matters Seperating browns and blacks on a social platform certainly doesn't help lower racism. And he has previously racially abused a police officer. So yes he is a racist. A racist that will be out of a job too any time soon. So yes I will call him a racist. Well, yeah. There's a wider argument about racism here, but I agree his behaviour whilst pi$$ed on arrest was disgusting. The timing of the tweet was attention seeking, he's now experiencing another form of attention and probably regrets it. There is a point in there though about racism, which he has likely experienced himself, and how it is embedded in our establishment |
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Post by fintanstack on Sept 10, 2022 18:32:35 GMT
Seperating browns and blacks on a social platform certainly doesn't help lower racism. And he has previously racially abused a police officer. So yes he is a racist. A racist that will be out of a job too any time soon. So yes I will call him a racist. Well, yeah. There's a wider argument about racism here, but I agree his behaviour whilst pi$$ed on arrest was disgusting. The timing of the tweet was attention seeking, he's now experiencing another form of attention and probably regrets it. There is a point in there though about racism, which he has likely experienced himself, and how it is embedded in our establishment I suppose then that both you and GasGoMarchingIn are correct. Sinclair is correct, the Palace is racist and have done nothing to improve things. He is also a knob. |
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