The sh**!

f**k the sh**

The clue is ON THE PITCH.

Regardless of if they're permanent signings or loan signings.

They're still part of the squad playing ON THE PITCH.

Ryan Woods may have only played the equivalent of 16 Championship games, it's still pretty much the same amount as Andy King played for City last season.

Woods was pretty much an ever present for Hull until Rosenior took over who didn't fancy him for whatever reason, same with Harvey Vale.

Looking at Defenders don't think there's much difference between Connor Taylor or James Wilson to Robert Atkinson who City signed from Oxford either who played 26 games for them last season.

Point still stands they're not miles ahead of us on the pitch if you look at the 2 respective squads currently.

They are in terms of stadium and infrastructure, academy etc though.

However that wasn't my point.

Saw this and thought it too hilarious not to address.

Firstly, we played Oxford in the first round of the League Cup. We made changes and beat them 5-1. Oxford are currently top of League One, a solid 16 places above you. If you genuinely think that you are close to us on the pitch, then that would say otherwise.

Secondly, Andy King is a reserve player of us. If you’re saying that your first choice players are at the same level as our reserves then that’s fair, but you can’t claim him to be a key part of our midfield, because he isn’t.

Thirdly, Woods and Vale were both reserve players for a side who finished below us last season. Vale played 2 games last season, overall less than 90 minutes for a team who finished below us. He’s a prestigious talent who may well do well for you, sure, but he wouldn’t get in our side, evidently. 

To say there is not much difference between James Wilson, who we released 11 years ago because he wasn’t good enough, and Rob Atkinson, who we signed for over £1 million a few years ago, is laughable. No point me trying to argue that one as it is just clearly false.

You mention Jack Hunt as well. Tanner is clear of him in many respects. Hunt failed to hold down a first team place at times with us and clearly was struggling to do the same with League One Sheffield Wednesday, who released him. If you think a player being released by a league one side because, according to their fans, his legs had gone, would get into a championship side, you are deluded.

You've had an excellent window, granted. But please don’t try and compare yourselves to us on the pitch, or off it. There’s a huge gap there. You’re currently in a lower position in league one than we are in the championship. I admire the optimism, but focus on that top half/play off push rather than ridiculous and frankly incorrect comparisons with us. 

Ok, well Lincoln beat Sheffield Utd last night, Salford beat Leeds on Tuesday too, is that yardstick to say Lincoln and Salford are better than them? Of course not.

I would say Ryan Woods is every bit as good Matty James too, a new manager didn't fancy him, but his Championship pedigree is right up there.

Harvey Vale has played for Chelsea's 1st team under Thomas Tuchel, an elite Champions League winning manager deemed him good enough, i'll take his judgement over Liam Roseniors.

James Wilson was an ever present for the league champions last year, and also played for Ipswich before that, Rob Atkinson only played 1 season at League 1 level before you paid £1M for him, just because you paid that doesn't mean anything.

Connor Taylor has already played in The Championship at Stoke a bigger club than Bristol City, again just a change of manager means he's back here.

Jack Hunt failed to hold down a regular place? Well 115 appearances in just 3 seasons suggests otherwise.

Luton have gone from The Conference to the Premier League in quick succession, with players from The Conference, League 2 and League 1, I take it they were 'miles, behind you on the pitch as well?

They've got a Centre Half in Lockyer that played for us in The Conference as well, now playing at a level above your players.

Connor Taylor and James Wilson imo are every bit as good if not better than Tom Lockyer.

Our Defenders this season are also an upgrade on Bobby Thomas who we had last season who signed for Coventry for £2M, and also better that Jarrel Quansah who made an appearance in the Premier League for Liverpool last weekend. So just because you paid £1M for someone means absolutely nothing.

We're not miles behind you 'on the pitch' at all.

Off it we are, agreed.

Just a few points, when you say you easily beat top of the table Oxford, you do know that they had a pretty much second string side out that night , only 4 players who started against you, featured in their next league match the following Saturday against Carlisle.
If you think Jack Hunt’s legs has gone, we must have a brilliant fitness team, as it didn’t show last Saturday with the amount of ground he covered all over the pitch & in my eyes he was our MOM.
Anyway it will be interesting how you cope this season without the quality of Semenyo  & Scott , the Championship looks a lot stronger this year than last & we know only too well what’s it like to keep losing your best players.

I agree, cup upsets can happen. However, I’d say a 5-1 score line highlights a certain disparity between two sides, wouldn’t you agree?

Had a little look at what Hull fans were saying when you loaned Woods. For a first team player (which he would be if he was as good as James) I would expect outrage that they’ve let him go on loan, and genuine disappointment. However, I didn’t see that. That tells me he can’t be as good as James, a point which is furthered by the fact that Woods went on loan to you, not one of the ‘big’ clubs in league one, or a championship club. Which, if he were championship starter quality, you would expect wouldn’t you?

Vale played 5 games for Chelsea in domestic cups, with one start. He may well be a superb talent, who may well go far in the game. But let’s not try and claim he was a first team player for Chelsea. Rosenior may well have been totally wrong, however if he deemed him good enough for championship football he would have played him for more than 76 minutes surely?

James Wilson wasn’t deemed good enough for us at 23, he’s now 34. Atkinson, when fit, pushes for a starting spot, Wilson was released by Plymouth as they weren’t willing to offer him first team football in the championship, you aren’t being serious when you compare the two are you?

Dont know enough about Connor Taylor to comment really. Had a look at Oatcake though to educate myself. Again, if he was championship quality (like you are claiming) you would expect disappointment from them wouldn’t you? If anything it was the opposite. Lumbersome, not up to scratch, slow and immobile were some of the words that stood out. With a good football brain, those are characteristics that can be looked over at league one level (look at flint with us) but you will always get caught out at championship level. None of that can be said for Atkinson, who is clearly a much better player.

I stand corrected on Hunt, seemed to remember him fighting for his place in his last season. However, he’s just been released by a league one club because he wasn’t good enough for the championship, and everyone from their side seems happy with that, do you think he’d get in our side over a right back who is quicker and playing at a higher level, as well as being a decade younger?

Of course they aren’t, Luton are very much an exception to the rule and have done seriously well. Are you trying to compare yourselves to them in terms of quality?

Do you genuinely believe Luton would rather have Wilson over Lockyer? Lockyer has done incredibly well for himself to become a Premier League player, and he would get into our team. Players can improve over time and move up the leagues, Alex Scott was playing non league football when we picked him up, he’s now being touted as a future England star.

If your defenders were an upgrade on a player who has just signed for a championship club for 2 million don’t you think Stoke and Plymouth (neither of whom had any need to sell) would have wanted to keep them? I respect your belief in your players as clearly being championship standard (despite what championship clubs may think) but don’t you think it’s a bit telling that the two players you’ve mentioned there have gone on to better things this season than the two defenders you currently have?

Do you think you have a squad that would be competitive in the championship then as it stands?

Fair enough, had a little bit of research and every one of the side who started against us featured in their last game (with 7 of them starting). Maybe wasn’t a fully first choice team, but then neither was ours.

Im only going off what Sheffield Wednesday fans said at the time. Regardless, he’s clearly not at championship standard any more. Good player at league one level though. 

Would be very surprised if we finish above 16/17th this season. Missing a striker to take some burden off wells really. There’s a general lack of ambition from Lansdown seemingly, the 25 million for Scott hasn’t been reinvested at all by the looks of things. What about you? It feels like you’ve gone for broke somewhat with the calibre and quantity of signings you’ve made this window?

They have got to you, they are all wankers and try to wind us up.
Do not let them do it to us we are better than that.

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