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Post by stapletongas on Jan 2, 2023 8:41:17 GMT
Lucky to get out with the points yesterday.
Second half we lost the midfield battle, invited Cheltenham on and couldn’t string passes together.
We can point at the defence, but if you lose the midfield the defence cones under a lot of pressure.
A lot of work to be done. Not often you can play like that and get away with it.
Btw, Scott Sinclair was absolute class.
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Post by bluebiro on Jan 2, 2023 9:00:18 GMT
Was Gordon dropped or injured yesterday?
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Post by Gas-Ed on Jan 2, 2023 9:34:56 GMT
Speaking to GloucestershireLive, Elliott said: “The first goal was a bit of quality from one of the top players in the league, who is on fire at the minute. The second goal was about six yards offside.
“It’s six yards offside. It’s not even a close one or a marginal one you can understand the linesman getting wrong. It’s six yards. If the linesman’s job isn’t to look across the line and get offsides. But that was my view on the second goal.”
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Personally, I thought it was much tighter than that. If you pause the replay as Collins threads the ball through, you can see Coburn’s body is more or less in line with their defender. Not much of an appeal either.
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Post by dudelebowski on Jan 2, 2023 9:44:27 GMT
Speaking to GloucestershireLive, Elliott said: “The first goal was a bit of quality from one of the top players in the league, who is on fire at the minute. The second goal was about six yards offside. “It’s six yards offside. It’s not even a close one or a marginal one you can understand the linesman getting wrong. It’s six yards. If the linesman’s job isn’t to look across the line and get offsides. But that was my view on the second goal.” ————————— Personally, I thought it was much tighter than that. If you pause the replay as Collins threads the ball through, you can see Coburn’s body is more or less in line with their defender. Not much of an appeal either. Can clearly see it on the young lads Vlog from the away terrace, Coburn still in line with the last man even after the ball leaves Collins boot. Not even offside let alone by 6 yards, silly Wade.
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Post by DrFaustus on Jan 2, 2023 9:48:44 GMT
Coburn was onside, clearly. The Cheltenham manager is seeing things through sh** stained glasses.
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Post by Gaswood on Jan 2, 2023 10:07:44 GMT
Kinda shows it all.... sorry for that but it's clearly ONSIDE: 5.13m lino level with play. Amazingly good decision. Thoroughly enjoyable watch from that lad, fair play to him!
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 2, 2023 10:10:56 GMT
Very much needed win. The change by JB in the second half made a difference. Need more good recruitment if we want to challenge for the play offs. UTG. Please stop with the play off berths and promotion. We are bang average at this level but it’s a good platform to work from. 2 awful and giveaway losses and a win is hardly play off form. Sorry as not personal but I think it’s nonsense, especially in how we defend Last season proved we are a set up that gets stronger, so for this ‘bang average’ team to be 11th in January I think is superb, in fact a good few places higher than most of us expected. You may think we’re not good enough, but I’m confident we will make a charge for the playoffs, whether we make it of course is another thing, but this group of players and coaching set up have the skill, fight, determination and sheer effort to make it a possibility imo.
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Post by Claremont Gas on Jan 2, 2023 10:21:47 GMT
Meant to say yesterday ... Thought the prematch music was brilliant .... Punk edge to it and was great to see the over 50s singing along to the likes of Billy Idol and the Ruts.
Great choice guys - more of that please.
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Post by bluebiro on Jan 2, 2023 10:22:31 GMT
Please stop with the play off berths and promotion. We are bang average at this level but it’s a good platform to work from. 2 awful and giveaway losses and a win is hardly play off form. Sorry as not personal but I think it’s nonsense, especially in how we defend Last season proved we are a set up that gets stronger, so for this ‘bang average’ team to be 11th in January I think is superb, in fact a good few places higher than most of us expected. You may think we’re not good enough, but I’m confident we will make a charge for the playoffs, whether we make it of course is another thing, but this group of players and coaching set up have the skill, fight, determination and sheer effort to make it a possibility imo. and with the fanbase willing and backing them on . That makes a powerful machine to stop.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 2, 2023 10:27:22 GMT
Speaking to GloucestershireLive, Elliott said: “The first goal was a bit of quality from one of the top players in the league, who is on fire at the minute. The second goal was about six yards offside. “It’s six yards offside. It’s not even a close one or a marginal one you can understand the linesman getting wrong. It’s six yards. If the linesman’s job isn’t to look across the line and get offsides. But that was my view on the second goal.” ————————— Personally, I thought it was much tighter than that. If you pause the replay as Collins threads the ball through, you can see Coburn’s body is more or less in line with their defender. Not much of an appeal either. Can clearly see it on the young lads Vlog from the away terrace, Coburn still in line with the last man even after the ball leaves Collins boot. Not even offside let alone by 6 yards, silly Wade. Not true. Look at the video closely and you will see that at 5.13 Coburn is level but that the pass isn’t played then it’s half a second later and he was well offside by then which is actually how it seemed watching from the West Terrace anyway. The one he did flag offside though was onside.The linesman on our side was utterly hopeless, either incompetent or had had a good NYE on the p1s5.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 2, 2023 10:38:49 GMT
Kinda shows it all.... sorry for that but it's clearly ONSIDE: 5.13m lino level with play. Amazingly good decision. I think it shows it was definitely OFFSIDE. You can see at 5.13 that Coburn is onside but Collins plays the ball half a second later than that by which point he was offside. The goal that was disallowed though looked onside. Linesman on West side had an absolute mare. If you click on the screenshot, Collins has already played the ball and Coburn is ONSIDE. at 5.13 in real time. Also, the lino in bang in line. Var would be having a field day!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 2, 2023 10:41:29 GMT
Can clearly see it on the young lads Vlog from the away terrace, Coburn still in line with the last man even after the ball leaves Collins boot. Not even offside let alone by 6 yards, silly Wade. Not true. Look at the video closely and you will see that at 5.13 Coburn is level but that the pass isn’t played then it’s half a second later and he was well offside by then which is actually how it seemed watching from the West Terrace anyway. The one he did flag offside though was onside.The linesman on our side was utterly hopeless, either incompetent or had had a good NYE on the p1s5. Click on the screenshot shot. It's an optical illusion because of different momentums. You can clearly see the ball has been played by Collins and Coburn is ONSIDE. If you are right, things evened up as he didn't flag for some Cheltenham offside shouts too!
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 2, 2023 10:43:00 GMT
I think it shows it was definitely OFFSIDE. You can see at 5.13 that Coburn is onside but Collins plays the ball half a second later than that by which point he was offside. The goal that was disallowed though looked onside. Linesman on West side had an absolute mare. If you click on the screenshot, Collins has already played the ball and Coburn is ONSIDE. at 5.13 in real time. Also, the lino in bang in line. Var would be having a field day! I spent 10 minutes freezing the video at 5.13 and 5.14 last night, the ball wasn’t played through at 5.13 when he was in line it was after that. 100% offside just as it seemed with the naked eye. Linesman was in line but he was away with the fairies most of the game!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 2, 2023 10:44:23 GMT
If you click on the screenshot, Collins has already played the ball and Coburn is ONSIDE. at 5.13 in real time. Also, the lino in bang in line. Var would be having a field day! I spent 10 minutes freezing the video at 5.13 and 5.14 last night, the ball wasn’t played through at 5.13 when he was in line it was after that. 100% offside just as it seemed with the naked eye. Linesman was in line but he was away with the fairies most of the game! Then, how is the screenshot above that clearly shows onside explained ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 11:11:36 GMT
Was Gordon dropped or injured yesterday? Dropped. He was out before the game doing a running session with the coaches
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Post by Marshy on Jan 2, 2023 11:19:34 GMT
I spent 10 minutes freezing the video at 5.13 and 5.14 last night, the ball wasn’t played through at 5.13 when he was in line it was after that. 100% offside just as it seemed with the naked eye. Linesman was in line but he was away with the fairies most of the game! Then, how is the screenshot above that clearly shows onside explained ? Onside - offside who cares? The goal stood so tuff titty Nam! Well done gas a hard earned win, onwards and upwards UTG!
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Post by GasAttacK on Jan 2, 2023 11:54:48 GMT
Both offside calls were tight. I actually think he got both correct looking at the footage from the Cheltenham fan. Looks like the Cheltenham defender's left foot plays Josh on.
It's a good angle but not perfect so can't say for sure. Without VAR I think the lino was right to give the benefit of the doubt to the striker.
In the first half, I thought we played pretty well. Certainly controlled the game with 72% possession, scored 2 good goals, created some other decent chances, and had another goal narrowly ruled out for offside.
I'm not sure whether it was down to the goal or the changes Cheltenham made but the second half was a painful watch. From the moment Connolly gifted them a goal back we stopped playing. The entire second half was just rushed clearances and wave after wave of Cheltenham attacks. Luckily they're not a free-scoring side and we managed to hold on.
I wouldn't swap our front 2 for any strikers in L1 but we clearly need strengthening in defence and midfield to give us any chance of sustaining a push for the top 6. In fact, we'll be lucky to finish top half without at least 2 or 3 quality additions.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 2, 2023 12:07:10 GMT
Please stop with the play off berths and promotion. We are bang average at this level but it’s a good platform to work from. 2 awful and giveaway losses and a win is hardly play off form. Sorry as not personal but I think it’s nonsense, especially in how we defend Last season proved we are a set up that gets stronger, so for this ‘bang average’ team to be 11th in January I think is superb, in fact a good few places higher than most of us expected. You may think we’re not good enough, but I’m confident we will make a charge for the playoffs, whether we make it of course is another thing, but this group of players and coaching set up have the skill, fight, determination and sheer effort to make it a possibility imo. Can’t string two halves of football together
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Post by kentgas on Jan 2, 2023 12:11:07 GMT
I spent 10 minutes freezing the video at 5.13 and 5.14 last night, the ball wasn’t played through at 5.13 when he was in line it was after that. 100% offside just as it seemed with the naked eye. Linesman was in line but he was away with the fairies most of the game! Then, how is the screenshot above that clearly shows onside explained ? Interesting that no Cheltenham defender appealed. You would have expected them all to be up in arms.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 2, 2023 12:39:04 GMT
Can clearly see it on the young lads Vlog from the away terrace, Coburn still in line with the last man even after the ball leaves Collins boot. Not even offside let alone by 6 yards, silly Wade. Not true. Look at the video closely and you will see that at 5.13 Coburn is level but that the pass isn’t played then it’s half a second later and he was well offside by then which is actually how it seemed watching from the West Terrace anyway. The one he did flag offside though was onside.The linesman on our side was utterly hopeless, either incompetent or had had a good NYE on the p1s5. Although i agree, i will happily take this as it balances out over the season
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