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Post by joefrankie on Feb 13, 2024 22:53:06 GMT
The South Stand isn't temporary, there's no reason why pp can't be granted, it's not like permission was only obtained if we agreed to dismantle it in 5 or so years. No time limit, but it is temporary. All it is is bolted together steel. No concrete or anything which gives the impression of permanency. At the time it was planned we were supposedly moving to the fruit market. It was an interim measure which could be deconstructed when we moved and the steel used again. |
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Post by wider on Feb 13, 2024 22:54:00 GMT
My thoughts on the new stand I don’t believe we are presently allowed to fit out the concourse Why do you believe we aren’t allowed? |
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Post by returnofthedust on Feb 13, 2024 22:55:42 GMT
Why do you believe we aren’t allowed? I asked someone working on the project |
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Post by aghast on Feb 13, 2024 23:04:23 GMT
The South Stand isn't temporary, there's no reason why pp can't be granted, it's not like permission was only obtained if we agreed to dismantle it in 5 or so years. No time limit, but it is temporary. All it is is bolted together steel. No concrete or anything which gives the impression of permanency. At the time it was planned we were supposedly moving to the fruit market. It was an interim measure which could be deconstructed when we moved and the steel used again. A few on here expressed great surprise that after 27 years of doing nothing to the south stand, we decided to build a new one just as we were about to announce a new stadium. Hmmm.... |
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Post by supergas on Feb 14, 2024 6:10:14 GMT
I’ve noticed a couple of people believe that the pillars will be removed once the rest of the stadium is done!! Is this even possible? I’ve not seen this mentioned by any of the hierarchy!!! They wouldn’t be able to remove the pillars from that stand. The whole thing would need to be taken down (not a problem, that’s why it was built that way) and rebuilt with a cantilever design. Certainly won’t happen until the rest of the ground is done. Will be here for many years to come. In theory you could put a truss in above and then attach it to the existing roof, supported at both ends somewhere outside the stand/structure. That would take the weight and the pillars could be removed. In reality there's no indication at all it was designed with that in mind and so it would involve a lot of money, effort as well as potential compromises developing other parts of the ground, so I can't see it happening.... |
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Post by Congas on Feb 14, 2024 8:01:02 GMT
They wouldn’t be able to remove the pillars from that stand. The whole thing would need to be taken down (not a problem, that’s why it was built that way) and rebuilt with a cantilever design. Certainly won’t happen until the rest of the ground is done. Will be here for many years to come. In theory you could put a truss in above and then attach it to the existing roof, supported at both ends somewhere outside the stand/structure. That would take the weight and the pillars could be removed. In reality there's no indication at all it was designed with that in mind and so it would involve a lot of money, effort as well as potential compromises developing other parts of the ground, so I can't see it happening.... Could always use skyhooks 🤓 |
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 14, 2024 11:29:46 GMT
No time limit, but it is temporary. All it is is bolted together steel. No concrete or anything which gives the impression of permanency. At the time it was planned we were supposedly moving to the fruit market. It was an interim measure which could be deconstructed when we moved and the steel used again. A few on here expressed great surprise that after 27 years of doing nothing to the south stand, we decided to build a new one just as we were about to announce a new stadium. Hmmm.... I can see their point…. |
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Post by amgas on Feb 14, 2024 13:29:09 GMT
Send the apprentice to fetch some, although he might need to go back for a long stand and a box of blue marking steam to allow them to be fitted.
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 15, 2024 11:19:22 GMT
As I said last week block F is now available for ST’s for next season.
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 15, 2024 13:15:32 GMT
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Post by gasify on Feb 15, 2024 13:53:31 GMT
Seems the thing we did wrong was offer refunds to people who purchased a full price ticket. Why did we do that? |
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Post by percy on Feb 15, 2024 13:53:54 GMT
Day off so having a little play around, looking at Phase 2 of "the Mem project"- i.e the south East corner where away fans currently stand. Not ITK, all guesswork based on what weve heard and seen.
my guess the design will continue the same height and rake for the East stand to the corner flag. Hopefully with cantilevered roof so overall sight lines not impacted
Leaving the terrace as long as possible (assume away fans need to be given a terrace option if we have one?)
Then build up safe standing up to seats - as rake will be steeper, perfect for safe standing.
Assume we will then try and join the roof to the South stand but not sure how possible this will be, would need to slope down a fair bit and I expect we need to keep emergency vehicle access in that corner, so could be a lot of money for very little added value.
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 15, 2024 14:05:54 GMT
Seems the thing we did wrong was offer refunds to people who purchased a full price ticket. Why did we do that? Cos it was the right thing to do. And it would have been the right thing to do for the Exeter fans too. But we didn’t. |
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Post by gasify on Feb 15, 2024 14:11:14 GMT
Seems the thing we did wrong was offer refunds to people who purchased a full price ticket. Why did we do that? Cos it was the right thing to do. And it would have been the right thing to do for the Exeter fans too. But we didn’t. Why is it the right thing to do? I went to Asda last week and bought some coffee for £3. When I went this week, they had reduced it to £2.50. Is it the right thing for Asda to refund me? The people that bought a full price South Stand ticket, still got to see the game for the price they were happy to pay when it ws purchased. Why would they be owed a refund? Does that mean everyone else in the ground should be due a refund? Those poor buggers paid £26 to stand on the Thatchers that night. Should they all receive a £16 refund? Maybe more as they had to stand...? |
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 15, 2024 14:21:39 GMT
Cos it was the right thing to do. And it would have been the right thing to do for the Exeter fans too. But we didn’t. Why is it the right thing to do? I went to Asda last week and bought some coffee for £3. When I went this week, they had reduced it to £2.50. Is it the right thing for Asda to refund me? The people that bought a full price South Stand ticket, still got to see the game for the price they were happy to pay when it ws purchased. Why would they be owed a refund? Does that mean everyone else in the ground should be due a refund? Those poor buggers paid £26 to stand on the Thatchers that night. Should they all receive a £16 refund? Maybe more as they had to stand...? OK fair points, but I’m pretty sure there are league rules about it, so it doesn’t really matter what you and I think. Rovers will end up coughing up. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 15, 2024 14:32:26 GMT
Seems the thing we did wrong was offer refunds to people who purchased a full price ticket. Why did we do that? a 'danger' discount I guess. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 15, 2024 14:33:01 GMT
Cos it was the right thing to do. And it would have been the right thing to do for the Exeter fans too. But we didn’t. Why is it the right thing to do? I went to Asda last week and bought some coffee for £3. When I went this week, they had reduced it to £2.50. Is it the right thing for Asda to refund me? The people that bought a full price South Stand ticket, still got to see the game for the price they were happy to pay when it ws purchased. Why would they be owed a refund? Does that mean everyone else in the ground should be due a refund? Those poor buggers paid £26 to stand on the Thatchers that night. Should they all receive a £16 refund? Maybe more as they had to stand...? Rovers clearly thought it was the right thing to do as they made a decision to refund the money Either Rovers should have taken the flak from Gasheads and not refunded the money or refunded both sets of supporters. |
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Post by gasify on Feb 15, 2024 14:34:39 GMT
Why is it the right thing to do? I went to Asda last week and bought some coffee for £3. When I went this week, they had reduced it to £2.50. Is it the right thing for Asda to refund me? The people that bought a full price South Stand ticket, still got to see the game for the price they were happy to pay when it ws purchased. Why would they be owed a refund? Does that mean everyone else in the ground should be due a refund? Those poor buggers paid £26 to stand on the Thatchers that night. Should they all receive a £16 refund? Maybe more as they had to stand...? OK fair points, but I’m pretty sure there are league rules about it, so it doesn’t really matter what you and I think. Rovers will end up coughing up. Have you read the Exeter website link. Exeter are annoyed that we have offered to refund the difference to our fans and that has created the bad feeling. If we didn't offer a refund to our own fans, everything would be fine with Exeter. |
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Post by gasify on Feb 15, 2024 14:35:45 GMT
Why is it the right thing to do? I went to Asda last week and bought some coffee for £3. When I went this week, they had reduced it to £2.50. Is it the right thing for Asda to refund me? The people that bought a full price South Stand ticket, still got to see the game for the price they were happy to pay when it ws purchased. Why would they be owed a refund? Does that mean everyone else in the ground should be due a refund? Those poor buggers paid £26 to stand on the Thatchers that night. Should they all receive a £16 refund? Maybe more as they had to stand...? Rovers clearly thought it was the right thing to do as they made a decision to refund the money Either Rovers should have taken the flak from Gasheads and not refunded the money or refunded both sets of supporters.I agree. Refund both or refund none. I fall on the refund none side of the fence. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 15, 2024 14:36:28 GMT
Rovers clearly thought it was the right thing to do as they made a decision to refund the money Either Rovers should have taken the flak from Gasheads and not refunded the money or refunded both sets of supporters.I agree. Refund both or refund none. I fall on the refund none side of the fence. I say f..uck them they got their 3 points (joke) |
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