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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on Feb 12, 2024 17:55:22 GMT
I'm kinda dreading it too - East Stand needs knocking down and starting again, WITHOUT pillars. If we can't afford that, don't bother.
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 12, 2024 18:36:22 GMT
Wasn’t the gap for a large screen? Or is that another gap? That was an assumption but I've been told it's to connect the new East Stand in to create a "bowl" Will they be allowed to connect the two stands, given that one of them is a temporary, bolted together steel only structure?
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Post by gasify on Feb 12, 2024 20:02:15 GMT
I agree with this, but maybe not the reasoning. If you had an asset that wasn't being fully used, would you: a) buy more capacity b) sweat the asset for a couple of years It's not just seats and overall capacity, I'd have thought the real driver would be match day and non match day revenue generated by the facilities behind the seats. If that adds up, it'll get done. If not, it won't. Is there any non match day revenue?
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Post by bristolbluegas on Feb 12, 2024 20:53:19 GMT
That was an assumption but I've been told it's to connect the new East Stand in to create a "bowl" Will they be allowed to connect the two stands, given that one of them is a temporary, bolted together steel only structure? I guess it depends how you do it. Wimbledon have done that. Three of their stands are built in the same way as the South stand with one permanent structure.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 12, 2024 21:01:45 GMT
Will they be allowed to connect the two stands, given that one of them is a temporary, bolted together steel only structure? I guess it depends how you do it. Wimbledon have done that. Three of their stands are built in the same way as the South stand with one permanent structure. I thought the sight lines from the Grandstand were the reason we could never put a roof on the away end, or the home terrace at the other side of the stand, how are the club going to overcome that?
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Post by percy on Feb 12, 2024 23:08:12 GMT
I guess it depends how you do it. Wimbledon have done that. Three of their stands are built in the same way as the South stand with one permanent structure. I thought the sight lines from the Grandstand were the reason we could never put a roof on the away end, or the home terrace at the other side of the stand, how are the club going to overcome that? You are comparing different things. A roof above the terrace (like the thatchers) would be below the east stand They are looking to extend the east stand at the same height along the length of the side
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Post by willytopp84 on Feb 13, 2024 3:27:33 GMT
You can imagine it now family end by the West stand and the north and east end terrace totally replaced by same design as south stand 😂 pillars and all.
And the west stand and the current tall part of the east left the same.
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Post by bisto180 on Feb 13, 2024 12:50:35 GMT
I’ve noticed a couple of people believe that the pillars will be removed once the rest of the stadium is done!! Is this even possible? I’ve not seen this mentioned by any of the hierarchy!!!
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Post by percy on Feb 13, 2024 12:53:06 GMT
I’ve noticed a couple of people believe that the pillars will be removed once the rest of the stadium is done!! Is this even possible? I’ve not seen this mentioned by any of the hierarchy!!! Has anyone said that? Would hope they will cantilever the east stand as the space restrictions aren’t the same as with the south end
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Post by Marshy on Feb 13, 2024 13:17:14 GMT
I’ve noticed a couple of people believe that the pillars will be removed once the rest of the stadium is done!! Is this even possible? I’ve not seen this mentioned by any of the hierarchy!!! The Style Council- the walls come tumbling down 😂.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 13, 2024 15:38:00 GMT
I’ve noticed a couple of people believe that the pillars will be removed once the rest of the stadium is done!! Is this even possible? I’ve not seen this mentioned by any of the hierarchy!!! Where, when ?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 13, 2024 15:42:12 GMT
I’ve noticed a couple of people believe that the pillars will be removed once the rest of the stadium is done!! Is this even possible? I’ve not seen this mentioned by any of the hierarchy!!! Can’t imagine that unless we buy the houses behind the south stand.
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Feb 13, 2024 16:11:00 GMT
I’ve noticed a couple of people believe that the pillars will be removed once the rest of the stadium is done!! Is this even possible? I’ve not seen this mentioned by any of the hierarchy!!! The Style Council- the walls come tumbling down 😂. Raindrops keep falling on my head....
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Post by bisto180 on Feb 13, 2024 17:05:22 GMT
I’ve noticed a couple of people believe that the pillars will be removed once the rest of the stadium is done!! Is this even possible? I’ve not seen this mentioned by any of the hierarchy!!! Where, when ? In responses to the open letter on Twitter/X.
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 13, 2024 17:06:11 GMT
I’ve noticed a couple of people believe that the pillars will be removed once the rest of the stadium is done!! Is this even possible? I’ve not seen this mentioned by any of the hierarchy!!! They wouldn’t be able to remove the pillars from that stand. The whole thing would need to be taken down (not a problem, that’s why it was built that way) and rebuilt with a cantilever design. Certainly won’t happen until the rest of the ground is done. Will be here for many years to come.
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 13, 2024 17:09:52 GMT
I’ve noticed a couple of people believe that the pillars will be removed once the rest of the stadium is done!! Is this even possible? I’ve not seen this mentioned by any of the hierarchy!!! The Style Council- the walls come tumbling down 😂. Exactly Marshy, just shows people who have not got a clue when it comes to anything technical, putting stupid ideas out there. Surely anyone with half a brain realises if the steels were required to hold the thing up when it was built, they will still be needed when the rest of the stadium is done.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 13, 2024 19:38:44 GMT
I thought the sight lines from the Grandstand were the reason we could never put a roof on the away end, or the home terrace at the other side of the stand, how are the club going to overcome that? You are comparing different things. A roof above the terrace (like the thatchers) would be below the east stand They are looking to extend the east stand at the same height along the length of the side But how would the south stand connect to such a roof when it would be meters higher?
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 13, 2024 19:51:45 GMT
You are comparing different things. A roof above the terrace (like the thatchers) would be below the east stand They are looking to extend the east stand at the same height along the length of the side But how would the south stand connect to such a roof when it would be meters higher? Exactly. I don’t understand where people are getting this idea from. I’m boring myself now when I keep saying that the South Stand is a temporary structure. As such, I doubt plan permission would be granted for it to be joined on to a permanent East Stand, never mind the logistics of joining two structures which should be very different in height.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 13, 2024 22:21:52 GMT
The South Stand isn't temporary, there's no reason why pp can't be granted, it's not like permission was only obtained if we agreed to dismantle it in 5 or so years.
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Post by returnofthedust on Feb 13, 2024 22:43:59 GMT
My thoughts on the new stand after my first game sat in it for the Burton game. Clearly still some work required to complete it. At the entrances to the stairways the voids under the stand presently screened by canvas. Clearly solid partitions should be put in place. No problem with the seating areas and views despite the steelwork pillars obstructing slightly. Good atmosphere, if the team would have performed better this would no doubt be quite a noisy area. As regards the concourse under the stand, clearly plenty of room to move the outside kiosks and toilets as plans under here. Perhaps will be done in the close season. The two new kiosks outside against the fence were open, one as a bar and the other selling chocolate bars and soft drinks( not clear to me what else they were selling. The outside catering burger van was again in attendance. The existing outside toilets look to be very temporary indeed, perched on bits of wood etc etc and there is still temporary fencing in the concourse against the back wall cladding where I assume the toilets etc will be as plan next season. After all on a wet day why on earth would you expect people to queue for food, drink and toilets outside in the open when they have paid to sit under cover in the stand. No way is crowding an issue for this area, there will be plenty of space for the kiosks toilets etc as well as the fans. I don’t believe we are presently allowed to fit out the concourse
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