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Post by yattongas on Feb 23, 2024 17:10:14 GMT
There have been concerns raised on here regarding, the lack of facilities installed under the South stand. The club planned to put toilets and concessions (granted facilities) under the stand , but fire safety officers have refused this. So the club is now planning on putting facilites in the south east and south west corners of the South stand , but they are still hoping to putbar(s) along the back of the concours, although why bars are allowed but not other facilities seams a bit weird to me. Anyway that is what the club have told me. Standing out in the pouring rain to get an overpriced burger ? No thanks |
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 23, 2024 17:17:48 GMT
The east stand should only be redeveloped if there is a way of offsetting the build and running costs by getting a form of ROI outside of matchday tickets and hospitality. Borrowing another MSP style loan to finance it is not the way forward and would only mean we're going for some kind of south stand build which would be a waste of money. If we looked at an additional partner to share the vision, cost, and build which would contribute to the club, eg student accommodation, hotel, retail outlets, then we would be throwing good money away if it's not filled every game. It's absolutely insane that the East and South Stand have stood there in the state they are/were for 20+ years of ownership of the ground. The continual putting off by board, after board, after board is the most frustrating and frankly negligent actions in the clubs history. I totally agree. But a poorly planned and executed stand like the south was is not what we need for the east. If we are to develop that side it should not just be about the capacity, it should be about what it will generate for the club outside matchday ticketing as well as an investment partner that would share the cost of build. If we did revisit the student accommodation then it may be a sensible plan. Borrowing millions at a high interest rate just for a bank of seats is a very bad idea. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 23, 2024 17:26:26 GMT
I don’t buy the fire safety people won’t allow it. If a fire occurred in a pasty hut, there would be plenty of fire escapes down stairways to unaffected areas of the concourse and to the pitch at the front.
Plenty of clubs with pasty kiosks, toilets etc under the stands, so why not us?
It would appear to me the fire safety officer concerned must be a shithead!
I have just fired off an email to TG asking him if this is in fact the case and not just another fans rumour without foundation.
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Post by wertongas on Feb 23, 2024 17:45:15 GMT
I don’t buy the fire safety people won’t allow it. If a fire occurred in a pasty hut, there would be plenty of fire escapes down stairways to unaffected areas of the concourse and to the pitch at the front. Plenty of clubs with pasty kiosks, toilets etc under the stands, so why not us? It would appear to me the fire safety officer concerned must be a shithead! I have just fired off an email to TG asking him if this is in fact the case and not just another fans rumour without foundation. you need not have bothered because the info came from TG , like most of the info I put on here. |
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Post by simmo147 on Feb 23, 2024 18:01:50 GMT
As a minimum if that's the case, the toilets need to be larger and better than a portable sh1thouse. Having bars along the inside would atleast allow for a concourse type effect. It's frustrating that the amenities are so poor in the South Stand currently. As mentioned, they need to get the East Side spot on.
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Post by Jomo on Feb 23, 2024 18:48:39 GMT
It's absolutely insane that the East and South Stand have stood there in the state they are/were for 20+ years of ownership of the ground. The continual putting off by board, after board, after board is the most frustrating and frankly negligent actions in the clubs history. I totally agree. But a poorly planned and executed stand like the south was is not what we need for the east. If we are to develop that side it should not just be about the capacity, it should be about what it will generate for the club outside matchday ticketing as well as an investment partner that would share the cost of build. If we did revisit the student accommodation then it may be a sensible plan. Borrowing millions at a high interest rate just for a bank of seats is a very bad idea. Completely agree. If we end up with a couple of bolt on stands a-la Brunton Park, then frankly I'd rather have still had the hope of a new stadium with some hope for a bright future for the Gas rather than slim to no hope for that at all. New stands that just add more seats and nothing else to improve sustainability (i.e. the original reason we were told that we needed a new stadium!) will do very little to enhance our standing in the football pyramid, and we may as well accept L1/L2 football indefinitely. Sorry for the downbeat depressing post, I'm just feeling rather deflated with the club since the new owners came in. I hope my concerns end up looking daft! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 23, 2024 18:50:13 GMT
As a minimum if that's the case, the toilets need to be larger and better than a portable sh1thouse. Having bars along the inside would atleast allow for a concourse type effect. It's frustrating that the amenities are so poor in the South Stand currently. As mentioned, they need to get the East Side spot on. It seems utter nonsense the fire safety officer will allow bars but not toilets or hot food concessions, even if they object to burger stalls. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 23, 2024 19:05:01 GMT
As a minimum if that's the case, the toilets need to be larger and better than a portable sh1thouse. Having bars along the inside would atleast allow for a concourse type effect. It's frustrating that the amenities are so poor in the South Stand currently. As mentioned, they need to get the East Side spot on. It seems utter nonsense the fire safety officer will allow bars but not toilets or hot food concessions, even if they object to burger stalls. The clubs words when the new stand was announced For the first time ever Gasheads will be able to sit in the new stand with excellent views and sight lines and mix in the Concourse and enjoy all the vastly improved facilities it offers. It would appear that’s something else that has gone tits up. |
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Post by wallywalters on Feb 23, 2024 19:07:29 GMT
There have been concerns raised on here regarding, the lack of facilities installed under the South stand. The club planned to put toilets and concessions (granted facilities) under the stand , but fire safety officers have refused this. So the club is now planning on putting facilites in the south east and south west corners of the South stand , but they are still hoping to put bar(s) along the back of the concourse, although why bars are allowed but not other facilities seams a bit weird to me. Anyway that is what the club have told me. I can confirm werton is telling the truth. I have also been told this but added that once erected it was established that the rear of the stand wasn't how it was first envisaged/ or built incorrectly which has meant the convenience stalls they had arranged to fit under the stand no longer fit and have to be redesigned. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 23, 2024 19:45:56 GMT
There have been concerns raised on here regarding, the lack of facilities installed under the South stand. The club planned to put toilets and concessions (granted facilities) under the stand , but fire safety officers have refused this. So the club is now planning on putting facilites in the south east and south west corners of the South stand , but they are still hoping to put bar(s) along the back of the concourse, although why bars are allowed but not other facilities seams a bit weird to me. Anyway that is what the club have told me. I can confirm werton is telling the truth. I have also been told this but added that once erected it was established that the rear of the stand wasn't how it was first envisaged/ or built incorrectly which has meant the convenience stalls they had arranged to fit under the stand no longer fit and have to be redesigned. Same must apply to the toilet blocks that were supposed to be under there as well. |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Feb 23, 2024 19:54:50 GMT
At least it's better than what it replaced.
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Post by EastVanGas on Feb 23, 2024 20:11:16 GMT
At least it's better than what it replaced. A low bar |
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Post by bathgas1883 on Feb 23, 2024 20:11:43 GMT
Moved into there for tomorrow. Interested to see what it’s like. A lot of differing opinions on here
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Post by Smithy Gas on Feb 23, 2024 20:21:51 GMT
At least it's better than what it replaced. A low bar Is what they are going to name the new concourse drinking establishment due to its lack of head height. |
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Post by Gasshole on Feb 23, 2024 20:54:26 GMT
Moved into there for tomorrow. Interested to see what it’s like. A lot of differing opinions on here It will be the best day of your life. Forget the Haters……There will always be ppl who prefer standing in P*$$, or staring at the Sun for 90 minutes. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 23, 2024 21:26:05 GMT
I expect the fire safety concerns are around the sizing of it under there. To me there is no way you could fit toilets or kitchens in but I reckon you could get away with bars.
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Post by wertongas on Feb 23, 2024 22:33:41 GMT
There have been concerns raised on here regarding, the lack of facilities installed under the South stand. The club planned to put toilets and concessions (granted facilities) under the stand , but fire safety officers have refused this. So the club is now planning on putting facilites in the south east and south west corners of the South stand , but they are still hoping to put bar(s) along the back of the concourse, although why bars are allowed but not other facilities seams a bit weird to me. Anyway that is what the club have told me. I can confirm werton is telling the truth. I have also been told this but added that once erected it was established that the rear of the stand wasn't how it was first envisaged/ or built incorrectly which has meant the convenience stalls they had arranged to fit under the stand no longer fit and have to be redesigned. Of course it is true, true according to TG and the football club anyway. But stalls and toilets not fitting along the concourse also sounds about right as well, when the family stand was to be put in, it was originally ment to be twice the size, but would not fit so had to be re-configured, the club also failed to get planning permission for it. There was also the display screen issues , the screen didn't fit the frame so there was a delay in getting it working. So there is a common theme with these things. I suspect the bar would be narrower than the toilets and food outlets, so would fit along the concourse. That is my theory anyway. |
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Post by aforce on Feb 23, 2024 22:35:12 GMT
It’s a chicken and egg scenario tho. The manager has basically already given up and so have the players. From the day he walked in he hasn’t really showed any ambition to do anything this season, while we still had a live shot at the playoffs with the window open he didn’t sign anyone until 4 weeks but during those 4 weeks any realistic chance of top 6 drifted away. It’s a very poor league one this season imo and we’ve missed a trick
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Post by wider on Feb 23, 2024 23:40:57 GMT
It’s a chicken and egg scenario tho. The manager has basically already given up and so have the players. From the day he walked in he hasn’t really showed any ambition to do anything this season, while we still had a live shot at the playoffs with the window open he didn’t sign anyone until 4 weeks but during those 4 weeks any realistic chance of top 6 drifted away. It’s a very poor league one this season imo and we’ve missed a trick Opportunity missed but I’m not sure you can blame that on the incoming manager? We don’t know what budget he may have had or what support? What instructions was he operating under? |
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Post by singupgas on Feb 24, 2024 0:09:31 GMT
I totally agree. But a poorly planned and executed stand like the south was is not what we need for the east. If we are to develop that side it should not just be about the capacity, it should be about what it will generate for the club outside matchday ticketing as well as an investment partner that would share the cost of build. If we did revisit the student accommodation then it may be a sensible plan. Borrowing millions at a high interest rate just for a bank of seats is a very bad idea. Completely agree. If we end up with a couple of bolt on stands a-la Brunton Park, then frankly I'd rather have still had the hope of a new stadium with some hope for a bright future for the Gas rather than slim to no hope for that at all. New stands that just add more seats and nothing else to improve sustainability (i.e. the original reason we were told that we needed a new stadium!) will do very little to enhance our standing in the football pyramid, and we may as well accept L1/L2 football indefinitely. Sorry for the downbeat depressing post, I'm just feeling rather deflated with the club since the new owners came in. I hope my concerns end up looking daft! The owners should take a look at Brentfords G-Tech stadium if they want to see how they can build a modest sized stadium properly that actually looks the part. Dare I say I think the Mem site could squeeze in a few more seats than 17,250 but I think that would be too hopeful. It so built up around the ground and they have been able to build something pretty nice, reading a Q and A, there is room to increase capacity. ![]() Attachment DeletedLike you I'm afraid we are really just making The Mem a bit bigger but will still look and be a bit sh**e. South stand still a sh** show with no facilities. Complete lack of ambition from the owners has put us in this mess and sadly it's now accepted from our own fans now as used to being fed sh**. |
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