|
|
Post by gasonthemount on Feb 29, 2024 22:59:46 GMT
It is permanent. Anyone who can not see that should go to Specsavers! I sit in it every week.
Strange there are more pillars at the Thatchers end but no one complains about that.
|
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Feb 29, 2024 23:29:51 GMT
Excuse the multiple posts; I’ve had a couple…. Just realized a flaw in the theory that that gap at the back of the South Stand is to allow it to be joined up with any new East Stand. The original plans included that gap, when at the time we were not planning to stay at the Mem. The South Stand was a stop gap till we moved. That assumes we all believe the South stand was intended to be a stop gap. Very odd how after 25 years of nothing much a new stand was built as the owners were finalising plans for a new stadium. I believe the club knew the Fruit Market deal had gone astray and the stand was planned to be the first evidence of what we now know to be a redevelopment of the Mem. According to tonight's meeting the FM was never a goer. |
|
|
|
Post by wider on Mar 1, 2024 0:05:08 GMT
Tonight’s meeting. The FM was never a goer.
The South Stand was conceived before the takeover. Budget of £1.6m, now over £3m, partly because of “council extras”
I think this still represents very good value for what imo is a very presentable “demountable” stand that could be taken down and moved elsewhere (by us or others). Does that stop the temporary or permanent argument? I doubt it. UTG!
|
|
|
|
Post by gasify on Mar 1, 2024 6:28:32 GMT
If you look at the finished South Stand it does not take a genius to see that this is NOT a temporary stand and football wise it is the best stand at the ground. If similar was built all around the ground we would have a ground we could be proud of especially if it was built the same height as the existing east stand. I am convinced if we had the money then a ground of capacity around the 22000 could be built. As I have said before the actual land area is the same as Goodison Park. This wins funniest post of the day. Have you been in the South Stand? It looks and feels exactly like a temporary stand. Otherwise it would have a bit more concrete. |
|
|
|
Post by gasify on Mar 1, 2024 6:32:18 GMT
Somebody earlier on the thread suggested it was? Plus it's clearly not finished off on that end, so something is going there? That’s why the end has been left open, it was confirmed to be the case on here quite sometime ago. The gap is for a screen, don't over think it. We were told last night that a new screen will be installed over the summer. My money is on it being placed in that gap. Interesting that we have had to buy a new one, there was only one block of pixels that had died. |
|
|
|
Post by singupgas on Mar 1, 2024 7:43:12 GMT
It is permanent. Anyone who can not see that should go to Specsavers! I sit in it every week. Strange there are more pillars at the Thatchers end but no one complains about that. The Thatchers end is an old, not brand new stand built in 2023. Trust me if there are more pillars in the new North whenever that is built, will be just as annoying. |
|
|
|
Post by percy on Mar 1, 2024 8:01:10 GMT
If you look at the finished South Stand it does not take a genius to see that this is NOT a temporary stand and football wise it is the best stand at the ground. If similar was built all around the ground we would have a ground we could be proud of especially if it was built the same height as the existing east stand. I am convinced if we had the money then a ground of capacity around the 22000 could be built. As I have said before the actual land area is the same as Goodison Park. This wins funniest post of the day. Have you been in the South Stand? It looks and feels exactly like a temporary stand. Otherwise it would have a bit more concrete. modern methods of construction. One more time for those at the back From a CONSTRUCTION point of view it is modular which allows flexibility in use and movement. This could be for a 1 year or 50+ year use. From a STADIUM FUTURE point of view is a quick solution to meet short to medium term needs whilst bigger strategy (new stadium or redeveloped ground) is decided/implemented. In the long view, everything is temporary. |
|
|
|
Post by gasify on Mar 1, 2024 8:07:44 GMT
This wins funniest post of the day. Have you been in the South Stand? It looks and feels exactly like a temporary stand. Otherwise it would have a bit more concrete. modern methods of construction. One more time for those at the back From a CONSTRUCTION point of view it is modular which allows flexibility in use and movement. This could be for a 1 year or 50+ year use. From a STADIUM FUTURE point of view is a quick solution to meet short to medium term needs whilst bigger strategy (new stadium or redeveloped ground) is decided/implemented. In the long view, everything is temporary. I agree that the external steele could be there for 50 years. However I would expect the non steele stuff to not last longer that 20 years, maybe less. I would like to think that with the new plans, they have thought about redevelopment of the South Stand again. Bringing the pitch more north when the Thatchers is redeveloped could (*could*) free up enough space to redo the South Stand and maybe have room for a cantilever approach. |
|
|
|
Post by percy on Mar 1, 2024 8:11:48 GMT
modern methods of construction. One more time for those at the back From a CONSTRUCTION point of view it is modular which allows flexibility in use and movement. This could be for a 1 year or 50+ year use. From a STADIUM FUTURE point of view is a quick solution to meet short to medium term needs whilst bigger strategy (new stadium or redeveloped ground) is decided/implemented. In the long view, everything is temporary. I agree that the external steele could be there for 50 years. However I would expect the non steele stuff to not last longer that 20 years, maybe less. I would like to think that with the new plans, they have thought about redevelopment of the South Stand again. Bringing the pitch more north when the Thatchers is redeveloped could (*could*) free up enough space to redo the South Stand and maybe have room for a cantilever approach. Dont know about your non steel stuff comment but absolutely agree on the 2nd sentence. All the talk of perm vs temp is a bit pointless as its not that simple. if we are relooking at the south within 10 years i will be VERY surprised tho |
|
|
|
Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 1, 2024 8:18:02 GMT
We’re not alone in having “temporary” stands which stay around for decades at a time.
Gillinghams horrible way end is a great example
|
|
|
|
Post by stuart1974 on Mar 1, 2024 8:35:42 GMT
modern methods of construction. One more time for those at the back From a CONSTRUCTION point of view it is modular which allows flexibility in use and movement. This could be for a 1 year or 50+ year use. From a STADIUM FUTURE point of view is a quick solution to meet short to medium term needs whilst bigger strategy (new stadium or redeveloped ground) is decided/implemented. In the long view, everything is temporary. I agree that the external steele could be there for 50 years. However I would expect the non steele stuff to not last longer that 20 years, maybe less. I would like to think that with the new plans, they have thought about redevelopment of the South Stand again. Bringing the pitch more north when the Thatchers is redeveloped could (*could*) free up enough space to redo the South Stand and maybe have room for a cantilever approach. I may have mentioned elsewhere, I can see the South Stand becoming a 'Phase 5' development in 5-10 years, if circumstances allow. |
|
|
|
Post by bristolbluegas on Mar 1, 2024 9:13:56 GMT
That’s why the end has been left open, it was confirmed to be the case on here quite sometime ago. The gap is for a screen, don't over think it. We were told last night that a new screen will be installed over the summer. My money is on it being placed in that gap. Interesting that we have had to buy a new one, there was only one block of pixels that had died. I specifically asked this of Abdulattif at the end. He said that they had asked why there was a gap when they took over and no one could tell them the reason (not there for a screen) although he confirmed that the gap will be filled under the redevelopment plans. |
|
|
|
Post by gasify on Mar 1, 2024 9:35:56 GMT
The gap is for a screen, don't over think it. We were told last night that a new screen will be installed over the summer. My money is on it being placed in that gap. Interesting that we have had to buy a new one, there was only one block of pixels that had died. I specifically asked this of Abdulattif at the end. He said that they had asked why there was a gap when they took over and no one could tell them the reason (not there for a screen) although he confirmed that the gap will be filled under the redevelopment plans. Yes, I heard you ask that. I thought maybe he liked the mystery around it and was quite happy to continue the mistique. Time will tell... Where would you put a big screen? |
|
|
|
Post by oldmarket65 on Mar 1, 2024 9:36:40 GMT
Did anyone ask : why the south stand would increase capacity to 12500. However : the away allocation Is restricted to just 1300 . This means we are losing over £50k per game x 6-8 a season £500k ?.
For example V Derby we will get 9000 plus instead of a 12500 sell out. Is there a legistical reason ?.
|
|
|
|
Post by blueridge on Mar 1, 2024 10:21:16 GMT
I specifically asked this of Abdulattif at the end. He said that they had asked why there was a gap when they took over and no one could tell them the reason (not there for a screen) although he confirmed that the gap will be filled under the redevelopment plans. Yes, I heard you ask that. I thought maybe he liked the mystery around it and was quite happy to continue the mistique. Time will tell... Where would you put a big screen? On top of the SW corner. |
|
|
|
Post by wider on Mar 1, 2024 10:39:26 GMT
Yes, I heard you ask that. I thought maybe he liked the mystery around it and was quite happy to continue the mistique. Time will tell... Where would you put a big screen? On top of the SW corner. Nobody in the West Stand could see that as the stand roof get in the way - same reason the SW stand height is lower than the South, there was no point going higher as the West Stand would block their view |
|
|
|
Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Mar 1, 2024 10:58:38 GMT
Did anyone ask : why the south stand would increase capacity to 12500. However : the away allocation Is restricted to just 1300 . This means we are losing over £50k per game x 6-8 a season £500k ?. For example V Derby we will get 9000 plus instead of a 12500 sell out. Is there a legistical reason ?. now we effectively have nothing to play for, I’d be more than happy to cash in on big away followings like Derby, Bolton and Reading will bring. I was at the Barnsley Derby game last week visiting a mate from uni, and Derby had 5k away supporters in that massive away end. They still lost. |
|
|
|
Post by gasify on Mar 1, 2024 11:29:59 GMT
Yes, I heard you ask that. I thought maybe he liked the mystery around it and was quite happy to continue the mistique. Time will tell... Where would you put a big screen? On top of the SW corner. That explains the height difference of the stands. |
|
|
|
Post by oldmarket65 on Mar 1, 2024 12:26:24 GMT
Reading sold out in a day. A waiting list formed.
|
|
|
|
Post by stickygas on Mar 1, 2024 13:24:42 GMT
Potential international call up ? Are the Gas likely to lose three players due to this ?
|
|
