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Post by oldmarket65 on Mar 2, 2024 18:57:39 GMT
At the present time there are 422 seats remaining in the home areas of the south west and south stands for the Derby game next Saturday I don’t think that’s its unlikely that we won’t sell at least half of those before next Saturday ,if not more after todays result. How many dots are avaliable in the East terrace or North Terrace?. Anyway if the clubs want to lose £500k a season then it's up to them. I could fill a stadium of 15000 and charge £30 which is what we are losing on away support from Pompey Derby Bolton Reading Charlton Barnsley etc. Also the tickets to sit down is cheap as chips. Since the new year the bargains in the south stand have been incredible. Who would pay more to stand in the rain than stand up ?. A terrace ticket is £26 . A seat ranges from £10 - £25 for a full paying adult. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 2, 2024 19:03:17 GMT
At the present time there are 422 seats remaining in the home areas of the south west and south stands for the Derby game next Saturday I don’t think that’s its unlikely that we won’t sell at least half of those before next Saturday ,if not more after todays result. How many dots are avaliable in the East terrace or North Terrace?. Anyway if the clubs want to lose £500k a season then it's up to them. I could fill a stadium of 15000 and charge £30 which is what we are losing on away support from Pompey Derby Bolton Reading Charlton Barnsley etc. Been plenty of sell outs in the west and east terraces this season before the south stand opened, that’s a fact. Does that not tell you that perhaps lots of gasheads might like the chance of sitting down? |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Mar 2, 2024 19:10:59 GMT
How many dots are avaliable in the East terrace or North Terrace?. Anyway if the clubs want to lose £500k a season then it's up to them. I could fill a stadium of 15000 and charge £30 which is what we are losing on away support from Pompey Derby Bolton Reading Charlton Barnsley etc. Been plenty of sell outs in the west and east terraces this season before the south stand opened, that’s a fact. Does that not tell you that perhaps lots of gasheads might like the chance of sitting down? But it's not increasing overall gate receipts is it ?. All is happening is 2000 - 3000 fans are transferring from terrace to seats at a cheaper rate . How long could a business survive like this ?. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 2, 2024 19:19:55 GMT
Been plenty of sell outs in the west and east terraces this season before the south stand opened, that’s a fact. Does that not tell you that perhaps lots of gasheads might like the chance of sitting down? But it's not increasing overall gate receipts is it ?. All is happening is 2000 - 3000 fans are transferring from terrace to seats at a cheaper rate . How long could a business survive like this ?. It’s not cheaper for next season, the club are getting more from us as they are many others who have gone for a seat. In fact The Derby game is only £1 cheaper for a seat than a terrace ticket. So the club will be getting more income from ST holders who change from the terrace to the stand next season. I would suggest that means more income. I know you will say we’re missing out on the away fan income. No we’re not just stick them in the East enclosure. Easy enough to fence it off behind the dugouts or even farther along towards the Thatchers. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 2, 2024 19:38:24 GMT
But it's not increasing overall gate receipts is it ?. All is happening is 2000 - 3000 fans are transferring from terrace to seats at a cheaper rate . How long could a business survive like this ?. It’s not cheaper for next season, the club are getting more from us as they are many others who have gone for a seat. In fact The Derby game is only £1 cheaper for a seat than a terrace ticket. So the club will be getting more income from ST holders who change from the terrace to the stand next season. I would suggest that means more income. I know you will say we’re missing out on the away fan income. No we’re not just stick them in the East enclosure. Easy enough to fence it off behind the dugouts or even farther along towards the Thatchers. It so sure it's that easy just to move the east terrace, if it was then surely we would have already done it when the tents were taken down? If a fan transfers from the present stands then they can make a big saving in the new stand. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 2, 2024 19:44:19 GMT
It’s not cheaper for next season, the club are getting more from us as they are many others who have gone for a seat. In fact The Derby game is only £1 cheaper for a seat than a terrace ticket. So the club will be getting more income from ST holders who change from the terrace to the stand next season. I would suggest that means more income. I know you will say we’re missing out on the away fan income. No we’re not just stick them in the East enclosure. Easy enough to fence it off behind the dugouts or even farther along towards the Thatchers. It so sure it's that easy just to move the east terrace, if it was then surely we would have already done it when the tents were taken down? If a fan transfers from the present stands then they can make a big saving in the new stand. I doubt many are moving from a stand on the side of the pitch to behind the goal. I know of many standeruppers who have already moved though and no doubt more will do so and put more money in the clubs coffers. An adult standing now ,will pay £60 more to sit in the south stand next season. |
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Post by wider on Mar 2, 2024 20:26:14 GMT
People seem to be missing several important points in this debate.
The 12,500 capacity stated is only when the South Stand is fully completed and open. It isn’t yet - it was stated at the Q&A session Thursday that we are still in a Test Event Sequence was it not.
Before the South Stand started to open the capacity was barely 9k, even less at season start till Safety Group restrictions were relaxed I believe? I think we had a few sell outs this season so our average is closer to the then capacity’s and not 3k blow what is possible.
Flexibility has been mentioned and the design incorporated that (when finished, it isn’t). Problems with the concourse aren’t helping. Cock ups have happened but nothing as bad as being made out by some
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Post by ifollowgas on Mar 4, 2024 11:05:30 GMT
May as well complete the South Stand by adding the missing block of 144 seats for away fans.
The idea of retaining the gap ‘for future connection to the new East Stand’ or for anything else seems pointless.
Any connecting corner section would have restricted view from the post near the corner flag.
Also such seats in a connecting ‘wrap-around’ would result in many seats unsaleable by having to be covered with sheets to separate the away and home supporters in the new East Stand.
Keep the South East corner open to accommodate access, turnstiles and facilities for away fans and retain a physical gap for security of the home fans’ in the new main stand.
Consequently the design of the new East Stand would be simplified and avoid unnecessary home/away fans’ segregation problems.
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Post by gasonthemount on Mar 4, 2024 22:49:36 GMT
Looks like at least 50% of the seats in Sections D, E and F have been sold as S/T’s. Very encouraging.
The South Stand is certainly improving the atmosphere. Good to have home supporters at both ends of the ground!
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Post by gasify on Mar 5, 2024 5:25:17 GMT
People seem to be missing several important points in this debate. The 12,500 capacity stated is only when the South Stand is fully completed and open. It isn’t yet - it was stated at the Q&A session Thursday that we are still in a Test Event Sequence was it not. Before the South Stand started to open the capacity was barely 9k, even less at season start till Safety Group restrictions were relaxed I believe? I think we had a few sell outs this season so our average is closer to the then capacity’s and not 3k blow what is possible. Flexibility has been mentioned and the design incorporated that (when finished, it isn’t). Problems with the concourse aren’t helping. Cock ups have happened but nothing as bad as being made out by someWhat cockups are you aware of and at whose door would you lay the blame? |
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Post by percy on Mar 5, 2024 12:04:03 GMT
Looks like Derby will be a sell out in the S & SW stands, so we were probably right not to open up another block to away fans (even if possible!)
Will be plenty of terrace spaces but expect that a lot now. Shows we needed more seats!
Season Tickets in the south are selling well - get in there quick. Would be grabbing the Adult plus £99 kid if i had younger ones still!
Definitely dont need East to remain as terrace when that development happens. Thatchers and West will be easily suffecient.
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Post by gascloud on Mar 5, 2024 12:34:45 GMT
Be great if we can top 11k. There will be goals of that I’m sure.
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Post by kruger on Mar 5, 2024 13:28:53 GMT
How many have Derby sold?
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Post by percy on Mar 5, 2024 13:48:38 GMT
How many have Derby sold? I have seen an exact number that I will be keeping to myself for max points! But it is more than 1300 but less that 1600. That is all i will say  |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 5, 2024 14:04:18 GMT
How many have Derby sold? 1348. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 5, 2024 14:09:18 GMT
Only 242 seats left in the south/south west stands for Saturday.
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Post by wider on Mar 6, 2024 16:10:42 GMT
People seem to be missing several important points in this debate. The 12,500 capacity stated is only when the South Stand is fully completed and open. It isn’t yet - it was stated at the Q&A session Thursday that we are still in a Test Event Sequence was it not. Before the South Stand started to open the capacity was barely 9k, even less at season start till Safety Group restrictions were relaxed I believe? I think we had a few sell outs this season so our average is closer to the then capacity’s and not 3k blow what is possible. Flexibility has been mentioned and the design incorporated that (when finished, it isn’t). Problems with the concourse aren’t helping. Cock ups have happened but nothing as bad as being made out by someWhat cockups are you aware of and at whose door would you lay the blame? I’m aware of the cockups raised by others on this and other threads. I’m not one to lay blame at anyone’s door unless I know the ins and outs of a situation, which I don’t. It would appear not talking to neighbours or councillors, mistakes in the first planning application, stopping work at one point?, not having enough space in the concourse for toilets/concessions etc have been cockups? Apart from resolving the toilets/concessions situation in the concourse asap I don’t see any point in laying blame? What does it achieve. Yes there has to be further review to those already done to ensure we don’t repeat the mistakes but overall I’m pleased we have built our first serious stand in ages and got it up reasonably quickly at decent value (even at £3m+ it’s decent per seat imo). |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 6, 2024 17:32:27 GMT
120 or so seats left for the Derby game now and I would point out to some detractors on here, none of them are cheap seats for this game.
Just goes to prove , there was no need to give Derby more than they were.
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Post by percy on Mar 6, 2024 18:27:38 GMT
120 or so seats left for the Derby game now and I would point out to some detractors on here, none of them are cheap seats for this game. Just goes to prove , there was no need to give Derby more than they were. I agree with your general point but £25 for an adult seat is "cheap". Compared to seats elsewhere. And even cheaper than standing. Still right to keep for ourselves tho |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Mar 6, 2024 18:32:18 GMT
120 or so seats left for the Derby game now and I would point out to some detractors on here, none of them are cheap seats for this game. Just goes to prove , there was no need to give Derby more than they were. No one way saying ' we won't sell the seats at £25". The point I was making is : will there be huge gaps on the terracing ?. If fans are transferring to seats at cheaper prices . Will that increase gate receipts?. Let's wait until we get the final attendances. If we get 11000 then you could just about argue its worth it. Anything lower will be a economic failure. Let's not forget Derby could sell 4-5 k tickets an away game . If the crowds is only 9700 instead of 12500 sell out . Then we lost 3k on gate receipts. I want to break records not preserve a wierd self interest . Edit . A crowd of more than 12100 would be the highest in nearly 40 years. City at Eastville in 1985 12500. It be great to see us beat a 40 year record !. |
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