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Post by wallywalters on Mar 16, 2023 20:27:26 GMT
Collins has been absolutely garbage for weeks now. He was appalling at fgr and I didn't think it possible but even worse Tuesday. He needs this kick up the backside. Don't like it. Move on. Simple. We won 3-1 at FGR with an assist from AC he couldn't have been that bad? AC was never really captain material. Did you go to the match?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 16, 2023 20:33:22 GMT
We won 3-1 at FGR with an assist from AC he couldn't have been that bad? AC was never really captain material. Did you go to the match? What's that got to do with it when posters who go to the same matches as me always seem to have different views. Sam Frost had no issues with his performance: Gas player ratings vs Forest Green as Marquis and Bogarde shine in fine display www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-player-ratings-vs-8241499#ICID=Android_BristolPostApp_AppShareIf Collins has been playing so poorly in his last 2 games then why did JB take Coburn off before him in both games and didn't even sub him off on Tuesday night?
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Post by eric on Mar 16, 2023 20:50:40 GMT
Great supporter of Aaron, but have to say in the last few weeks it looks suspiciously like either his agent has got into his head or a hand shake has been made on a move in the summer, its not about what you have done its more about what your doing, he hasn't been up to scratch lately and needs a kick up the backside as we are not safe yet! Perhaps there is no conspiracy and it’s a simple case of a sportsman being out of form which happens to every sportsman at some time? Probably not helped by being played in positions he’s not ideally suited to in recent weeks - I’m not really sure where he was playing on Tuesday to be honest !
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Post by eric on Mar 16, 2023 20:52:31 GMT
This latest action by Barton has finally convinced me he has lost the plot. The club need to grab him by the throat and give him a good shake to see if he has a brain. “Finally”? You’ve been slagging him off at every opportunity since he joined the club. Interesting that you suggest someone apply some physical violence towards him!!
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Post by wallywalters on Mar 16, 2023 20:55:21 GMT
What an absolute belter you are.🤣🤣. Didn't even go to a match but read a article from Sam frost who said he played well and because he made a simple 5 yard pass for an assist which by the way was a Goal all of marquis making thought he couldn't have been poor. 🤣. If your going to comment on a players performance make sure youv actually attended a game and saw them play first. Fyi he was rubbish. As for subbing coburn instead of him are you trying to say Collins was better than coburn Tuesday? Did you go Tuesday as well or are you going off articles youv read again 🤣. Fyi in case it's the latter again coburn is coming back from injury and ran himself into the ground Tuesday night which is why I presume he was brought off instead.
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Post by gasify on Mar 16, 2023 21:04:41 GMT
What an absolute belter you are.🤣🤣. Didn't even go to a match but read a article from Sam frost who said he played well and because he made a simple 5 yard pass for an assist which by the way was a Goal all of marquis making thought he couldn't have been poor. 🤣. If your going to comment on a players performance make sure youv actually attended a game and saw them play first. Fyi he was rubbish. As for subbing coburn instead of him are you trying to say Collins was better than coburn Tuesday? Did you go Tuesday as well or are you going off articles youv read again 🤣. Fyi in case it's the latter again coburn is coming back from injury and ran himself into the ground Tuesday night which is why I presume he was brought off instead. That is an interesting question. Coburn did miss three opportunities to score. At two of those were one on ones with the keeper and the third a shot from just outside the penalty box with only the keeper to beat. Collins missed less clear cut chances than Coburn, does that mean Collins was better on the night?
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Mar 16, 2023 21:23:08 GMT
He was one of a few who were not on it on Tuesday, we have not scored at home in our last four home games. Coburn has lost form, and Aaron has played a free role which hasn't worked. Risky strategy by public criticizing your best player! Wait until Saturday to see if it works! We scored against Burton 3 home games ago
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Post by Quarters on Mar 16, 2023 21:32:55 GMT
If Collins is criticised for ducking a header what does he say about Evans? He turns his back when going up, and rarely wins tackles.
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Post by 84gas on Mar 16, 2023 21:36:22 GMT
My first thought was that Collins has told JB he wants out in summer and he’s P’d off about it.
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Post by gasify on Mar 16, 2023 21:37:42 GMT
What an absolute belter you are.🤣🤣. Didn't even go to a match but read a article from Sam frost who said he played well and because he made a simple 5 yard pass for an assist which by the way was a Goal all of marquis making thought he couldn't have been poor. 🤣. If your going to comment on a players performance make sure youv actually attended a game and saw them play first. Fyi he was rubbish. As for subbing coburn instead of him are you trying to say Collins was better than coburn Tuesday? Did you go Tuesday as well or are you going off articles youv read again 🤣. Fyi in case it's the latter again coburn is coming back from injury and ran himself into the ground Tuesday night which is why I presume he was brought off instead. Have a look at the highlights: www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12834089/bristol-rovers-0-2-wycombe-wanderers-league-one-highlightsThose first two opportunities were fantastic passes from Collins.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 16, 2023 22:07:39 GMT
What an absolute belter you are.🤣🤣. Didn't even go to a match but read a article from Sam frost who said he played well and because he made a simple 5 yard pass for an assist which by the way was a Goal all of marquis making thought he couldn't have been poor. 🤣. If your going to comment on a players performance make sure youv actually attended a game and saw them play first. Fyi he was rubbish. As for subbing coburn instead of him are you trying to say Collins was better than coburn Tuesday? Did you go Tuesday as well or are you going off articles youv read again 🤣. Fyi in case it's the latter again coburn is coming back from injury and ran himself into the ground Tuesday night which is why I presume he was brought off instead. Have a look at the highlights: www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12834089/bristol-rovers-0-2-wycombe-wanderers-league-one-highlightsThose first two opportunities were fantastic passes from Collins. Nonsense WW was apparently at the match and that's not a true reflection of the match.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 16, 2023 22:09:44 GMT
My first thought was that Collins has told JB he wants out in summer and he’s P’d off about it. Perhaps the opposite is the case and AC told JB he's enjoyed being captain so much that he wants to stay next season!
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Post by strads1983 on Mar 16, 2023 23:17:48 GMT
Yep but it’s what he does. Maybe Gorringe should publicly out Barton for terrible subs and formation change? Clearly not understood the principles of it all. It’s about lack of effort not making a mistake. We will all disagree with whether or not JB should be doing this in public, but if fans are saying a manager should not be setting standards that 100% commitment is a non negotiable then I think people are miss understanding his point to his methods and philosophy. I for one have had a guts full of the amount of players stealing a living at this football club pretending to be a professional footballer.. you have to earn the right and blood and guts is the bare minimum standard for me.
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Post by percy on Mar 16, 2023 23:20:08 GMT
Yep but it’s what he does. Maybe Gorringe should publicly out Barton for terrible subs and formation change? Clearly not understood the principles of it all. It’s about lack of effort not making a mistake. We will all disagree with whether or not JB should be doing this in public, but if fans are saying a manager should not be setting standards that 100% commitment is a non negotiable then I think people are miss understanding his point to his methods and philosophy. I for one have had a guts full of the amount of players stealing a living at this football club pretending to be a professional footballer.. you have to earn the right and blood and guts is the bare minimum standard for me. So why didn’t he sub him?
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Post by strads1983 on Mar 16, 2023 23:20:11 GMT
If Collins is criticised for ducking a header what does he say about Evans? He turns his back when going up, and rarely wins tackles. This wasn’t true of Evans last year, however maybe Evans is also on an effort error or two himself.
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Post by strads1983 on Mar 16, 2023 23:22:54 GMT
Clearly not understood the principles of it all. It’s about lack of effort not making a mistake. We will all disagree with whether or not JB should be doing this in public, but if fans are saying a manager should not be setting standards that 100% commitment is a non negotiable then I think people are miss understanding his point to his methods and philosophy. I for one have had a guts full of the amount of players stealing a living at this football club pretending to be a professional footballer.. you have to earn the right and blood and guts is the bare minimum standard for me. So why didn’t he sub him? This is a great point. And by the way I agree that JB got the subs and tactics wrong 2nd half, but again it’s not from a lack of effort and commitment.
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Post by socrates on Mar 17, 2023 0:03:48 GMT
Collins hasn’t been playing well lately but I haven’t seen a lack of effort , things just haven’t been coming off for him. Perhaps making him captain when he’s clearly not captain material has effected his game? Probably. So far I like the majority of what Barton has done here but I’ve got a gut feeling that soon things are going to go tits up. To be honest I’ve always thought that they will and I’ll hold my hands up and say he’s held things together albeit in a rather strange way longer than I thought he would and I’m delighted with that because it means we’ve been reasonably successful but I just think Barton is the kind of character that will never last long in one particular place / job just because of the kind of bizarre character he is. But if he left tomorrow then he’d have been a fairly successful manager by Rovers standards. And probably the strangest one too.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 17, 2023 4:08:19 GMT
A guy who was given the captaincy on a temporary basis because a couple of others in front of him were out injured, now has the captaincy taken off him? Wow major non- news, nothing to see here move along please. Aaron back to his best now on Saturday and rip Pompey a new one! UTG!
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Post by mftc on Mar 17, 2023 7:04:26 GMT
I wonder what potential signings make of it all?
I'm sure their agents must do due diligence about their prospective new club and for me, getting blamed and shamed in public wouldn't exactly entice me.
Maybe Joey after recent games will decide that Aaron will be played in a position that suits him and will enable him to affect games tomorrow and this story will be put to bed?
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Post by percy on Mar 17, 2023 8:49:42 GMT
Collins hasn’t been playing well lately but I haven’t seen a lack of effort , things just haven’t been coming off for him. Perhaps making him captain when he’s clearly not captain material has effected his game? Probably. So far I like the majority of what Barton has done here but I’ve got a gut feeling that soon things are going to go tits up. To be honest I’ve always thought that they will and I’ll hold my hands up and say he’s held things together albeit in a rather strange way longer than I thought he would and I’m delighted with that because it means we’ve been reasonably successful but I just think Barton is the kind of character that will never last long in one particular place / job just because of the kind of bizarre character he is. But if he left tomorrow then he’d have been a fairly successful manager by Rovers standards. And probably the strangest one too. Pretty much agree with all that (making Collins captain in the first place was an odd call - Belly, Sincs or even Ward more suited)
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