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Post by gashead79 on Dec 24, 2023 9:04:44 GMT
Let me help you out "Heart disease is the #1 cause of disease-related death in pilots & astronauts in the world and coronary artery disease (CAD) is found in 85% of pilot autopsies after fatal accidents [1], [2], [3]. Acute cardiovascular incidents in flight crew can result in in-flight emergencies requiring emergency diversion, or at worst a major aircraft accident" You absolute fruit. Don’t spoil things with bloody facts , whatever next ? 🙄 Appreciate the stats but this isn't quite the 'gotcha' that it's meant to be. My shared article is military specific and its not fair to compare military grade pilots with commercial aircrew. Interesting info nonetheless. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 24, 2023 9:20:20 GMT
Don’t spoil things with bloody facts , whatever next ? 🙄 Appreciate the stats but this isn't quite the 'gotcha' that it's meant to be. My shared article is military specific and its not fair to compare military grade pilots with commercial aircrew. Interesting info nonetheless. Glad you find it interesting. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Dec 24, 2023 10:23:59 GMT
Had 5 jabs (old) and next year when offered, I think it'll be a "no thanks". Much the same with any virus or infectious illness, I'd not deliberately put others at risk anyway. Why would you think a 6th jab could be harmful to you when you’ve had 5 before ? Think I’ve just had the 3 now , I forget ? Maybe it affects memory! Just not convinced they're doing me personally, many favours. |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 9, 2024 7:52:03 GMT
Had a disappointing chat with my Gym Manager yesterday on the vaccines.
He was a professional footballer with 2 local sides(no doubt some on here will know him).
'Advised' not to take the jab early on until his club had assessed the situation better, but went ahead as he was concerned about the impact of covid on his business and staffing. Believing the press at the time that everybody should get jabbed to avoid this n that and protect eachother etc which seemed fair enough to him at that time.
2 days after his injection, started suffering with a racing heart and pains etc. Rushed to AnE where he spent the next 12 months as an outpatient for heart issues which ended his career in the game.
Docs and consultants in the industry adamant that it was nothing untoward from Moderna jab and suffered from covid.
He is now very informed on it, understandably, and has become an antivaxer loony granny killer like me!
Still, safe and effective 👍🏼
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Post by supergas on Jan 10, 2024 8:48:34 GMT
...Docs and consultants in the industry adamant that it was nothing untoward from Moderna jab and suffered from covid. He is now very informed on it, understandably, and has become an antivaxer loony granny killer like me! Still, safe and effective 👍🏼 Yes, there is a very small risk of Myocarditis - well done on finding the one person in fifty thousand that has suffered some kind of side effect. Must be good to know the other forty nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine people are all doing well.... |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 10, 2024 11:01:27 GMT
...Docs and consultants in the industry adamant that it was nothing untoward from Moderna jab and suffered from covid. He is now very informed on it, understandably, and has become an antivaxer loony granny killer like me! Still, safe and effective 👍🏼 Yes, there is a very small risk of Myocarditis - well done on finding the one person in fifty thousand that has suffered some kind of side effect. Must be good to know the other forty nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine people are all doing well.... That's OK then🙄 Pro footballer+safe and effective=heart problems. Nice one. Would he have been better off not taking it? That's a yes isn't it.. |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 10, 2024 11:04:35 GMT
Yes, there is a very small risk of Myocarditis - well done on finding the one person in fifty thousand that has suffered some kind of side effect. Must be good to know the other forty nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine people are all doing well.... That's OK then🙄 Pro footballer+safe and effective=heart problems. Nice one. Would he have been better off not taking it? That's a yes isn't it.. Imagine being this stupid ! 😂 |
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Post by supergas on Jan 10, 2024 11:27:39 GMT
Yes, there is a very small risk of Myocarditis - well done on finding the one person in fifty thousand that has suffered some kind of side effect. Must be good to know the other forty nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine people are all doing well.... That's OK then🙄 Pro footballer+safe and effective=heart problems. Nice one. Would he have been better off not taking it? That's a yes isn't it.. ...so nothing about the other forty nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine people? |
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Post by Gassy on Jan 10, 2024 11:37:07 GMT
That's OK then🙄 Pro footballer+safe and effective=heart problems. Nice one. Would he have been better off not taking it? That's a yes isn't it.. ...so nothing about the other forty nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine people? He's quite literally ignoring the basic principles of society. Perhaps we should start voting in this way. I know 50k people in my area want to vote Labour, but we should really base the entire decision on 1 person. |
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Post by popuppirate on Jan 10, 2024 12:16:37 GMT
Had a disappointing chat with my Gym Manager yesterday on the vaccines. He was a professional footballer with 2 local sides(no doubt some on here will know him). 'Advised' not to take the jab early on until his club had assessed the situation better, but went ahead as he was concerned about the impact of covid on his business and staffing. Believing the press at the time that everybody should get jabbed to avoid this n that and protect eachother etc which seemed fair enough to him at that time. 2 days after his injection, started suffering with a racing heart and pains etc. Rushed to AnE where he spent the next 12 months as an outpatient for heart issues which ended his career in the game. Docs and consultants in the industry adamant that it was nothing untoward from Moderna jab and suffered from covid. He is now very informed on it, understandably, and has become an antivaxer loony granny killer like me! Still, safe and effective 👍🏼 Sounds like he had an underlying health condition, exactly the sort of person who probably should have regular vaccinations 👍 |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 10, 2024 12:43:29 GMT
That's OK then🙄 Pro footballer+safe and effective=heart problems. Nice one. Would he have been better off not taking it? That's a yes isn't it.. ...so nothing about the other forty nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine people? Can only assume you are ignoring the excess death figures and orher reported complications. Just sharing a relevant story anyway. If you want to ridicule it thats fine by me. I'd be pretty peeved like him if it were me. Super fit and healthy to that. |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 10, 2024 12:44:51 GMT
Had a disappointing chat with my Gym Manager yesterday on the vaccines. He was a professional footballer with 2 local sides(no doubt some on here will know him). 'Advised' not to take the jab early on until his club had assessed the situation better, but went ahead as he was concerned about the impact of covid on his business and staffing. Believing the press at the time that everybody should get jabbed to avoid this n that and protect eachother etc which seemed fair enough to him at that time. 2 days after his injection, started suffering with a racing heart and pains etc. Rushed to AnE where he spent the next 12 months as an outpatient for heart issues which ended his career in the game. Docs and consultants in the industry adamant that it was nothing untoward from Moderna jab and suffered from covid. He is now very informed on it, understandably, and has become an antivaxer loony granny killer like me! Still, safe and effective 👍🏼 Sounds like he had an underlying health condition, exactly the sort of person who probably should have regular vaccinations 👍 Yeah maybe. Although I think pro footballers are pretty well monitored for health. I also doubt these people would risk it if they were fully informed prior to getting jabbed. |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 10, 2024 12:48:00 GMT
...so nothing about the other forty nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine people? He's quite literally ignoring the basic principles of society. Perhaps we should start voting in this way. I know 50k people in my area want to vote Labour, but we should really base the entire decision on 1 person. Desperate analogy but you go for it! "After the first dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine/Moderna, 65.6% participants experienced mild to moderate side-effects" These will largely be harmless but for some, depending on various factors, it was clearly more serious. |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 10, 2024 13:01:00 GMT
That's OK then🙄 Pro footballer+safe and effective=heart problems. Nice one. Would he have been better off not taking it? That's a yes isn't it.. Imagine being this stupid ! 😂 Me? What do mean, and why speak like that? I'm not a fan of the covid jabs, I am pro health and keep an eye on what I consume. I've a family and a reasonable house plus a decent job. Why is it me that's stupid and not you then? |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 10, 2024 13:16:45 GMT
Imagine being this stupid ! 😂 Me? What do mean, and why speak like that? I'm not a fan of the covid jabs, I am pro health and keep an eye on what I consume. I've a family and a reasonable house plus a decent job. Why is it me that's stupid and not you then? I was speaking about that footballer taking that nasty jab , what an idiot ! |
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Post by Gassy on Jan 10, 2024 13:20:13 GMT
He's quite literally ignoring the basic principles of society. Perhaps we should start voting in this way. I know 50k people in my area want to vote Labour, but we should really base the entire decision on 1 person. Desperate analogy but you go for it! "After the first dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine/Moderna, 65.6% participants experienced mild to moderate side-effects" These will largely be harmless but for some, depending on various factors, it was clearly more serious. Eat broccoli and 90% of people experience mild to moderate side-effects... You do understand the difference between an arm ache Vs heart problems? Heart problems was a 1 in 10,000 risk. How many lives were saved because of it? How many people didn't get seriously ill? In the UK, Covid vaccine saved over 100,000 people's lives. But hey, your mate should take priority because you know him. |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 10, 2024 13:31:46 GMT
Desperate analogy but you go for it! "After the first dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine/Moderna, 65.6% participants experienced mild to moderate side-effects" These will largely be harmless but for some, depending on various factors, it was clearly more serious. Eat broccoli and 90% of people experience mild to moderate side-effects... You do understand the difference between an arm ache Vs heart problems? Heart problems was a 1 in 10,000 risk. How many lives were saved because of it? How many people didn't get seriously ill? In the UK, Covid vaccine saved over 100,000 people's lives. But hey, your mate should take priority because you know him. This makes you think 🤔 ! According to a report by the Lowel Observatory, 13 percent of people really thought the moon was made of cheese. Maybe because of the craters they thought it was a huge chunk of Swiss cheese. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 10, 2024 13:50:30 GMT
Eat broccoli and 90% of people experience mild to moderate side-effects... You do understand the difference between an arm ache Vs heart problems? Heart problems was a 1 in 10,000 risk. How many lives were saved because of it? How many people didn't get seriously ill? In the UK, Covid vaccine saved over 100,000 people's lives. But hey, your mate should take priority because you know him. This makes you think 🤔 ! According to a report by the Lowel Observatory, 13 percent of people really thought the moon was made of cheese. Maybe because of the craters they thought it was a huge chunk of Swiss cheese. Do people still think we swallow three spiders a year in our sleep? |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 10, 2024 15:14:24 GMT
This makes you think 🤔 ! According to a report by the Lowel Observatory, 13 percent of people really thought the moon was made of cheese. Maybe because of the craters they thought it was a huge chunk of Swiss cheese. Do people still think we swallow three spiders a year in our sleep? But my mate down at the local pub swears his wife swallowed 4 |
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Post by oldie on Jan 10, 2024 17:34:18 GMT
You would think GH79 would stop humiliating himself like this.
I start to wonder if there is some underlying issue of cognitive dissonance going on.
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