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Post by Gastafari on Jul 7, 2023 14:09:19 GMT
Bet if your wife or daughter just took 'A bit of a slap' and were spat on you'd all be straight on FB going 'Duz N e 1 kNow whO thIS bloke is as I wANT to kICk is eD in' and not, 'Don't see what all the fuss is and just move on cause he might score a goal'. Belters the lot of you. What are you talking about? If you or anybody elses wife or daughter racially abused me,they should count themselves lucky.
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Post by wallywalters on Jul 7, 2023 14:09:53 GMT
Not defending him but think people are overlooking the part where she has pulled his hair after he'd spat but before he slaps her. He doesn't deserve to be kicked out of football for the offence committed so we move on and let him rehabilitate. If it happens again it's game over for him. What kind of bloke spits at someone on a night out, mind? This whole thing is playground stuff. He spits at her, she retaliates by pulling his hair, he slaps her a couple of times. Embarrassing. Jevani brown does by the looks of it. Is it right. No it isn't. Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a second chance, a chance of rehabilitation and a career in football. If he doesnt learn from his mistakes and does it again then he deserves all he gets.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 14:11:38 GMT
Bet if your wife or daughter just took 'A bit of a slap' and were spat on you'd all be straight on FB going 'Duz N e 1 kNow whO thIS bloke is as I wANT to kICk is eD in' and not, 'Don't see what all the fuss is and just move on cause he might score a goal'. Belters the lot of you. What are you talking about? If you or anybody elses wife or daughter racially abused me,they should count themselves lucky. There’s been no mention of racial abuse anywhere in the reports?
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Post by toggsy2 on Jul 7, 2023 14:12:37 GMT
Like I said earlier in the thread Rovers would have done their due diligence before signing him so the outcome is of little surprise. There was always more to this case and whilst I don't condone him spitting and slapping and in the same breath I don't' condone the racial abuse and hair pulling by the woman. Let's also not forget no doubt both were highly intoxicated on drink which lowers your inhibitions so IMHO both as bad as one another, this case should have never had come to court in contrast a warning to both would have been enough It's now done and dusted let his football do the talking now. Time to move on
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 7, 2023 14:13:00 GMT
What kind of bloke spits at someone on a night out, mind? This whole thing is playground stuff. He spits at her, she retaliates by pulling his hair, he slaps her a couple of times. Embarrassing. Jevani brown does by the looks of it. Is it right. No it isn't. Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a second chance, a chance of rehabilitation and a career in football. If he doesnt learn from his mistakes and does it again then he deserves all he gets. That’s not what anyone is saying. There are people here minimising what he has done or justifying it. If he was to publicly apologise, to the persons involved, Exeter and Rovers fans, make a sizeable contribution to Shelter or a similar organisation and agree to do some work with HGT, then that’s a road to a second chance, repentance and forgiveness. However I willing to bet the ostrich approach will be taken on the hope that a few goals makes everything right.
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Post by willytopp84 on Jul 7, 2023 14:13:16 GMT
Joey will mentor the lad (through his own experiences) then hopefully we'll get a focused goal machine this term.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 14:14:09 GMT
Like I said earlier in the thread Rovers would have done their due diligence before signing him so the outcome is of little surprise. There was always more to this case and whilst I don't condone him spitting and slapping and in the same breath I don't' condone the racial abuse and hair pulling by the woman. Let's also not forget no doubt both were highly intoxicated on drink which lowers your inhibitions so IMHO both as bad as one another, this case should have never had come to court in contrast a warning to both would have been enough It's now done and dusted let his football do the talking now. Time to move on Can you point me to the part of the report from todays court case that says he was racially abused please?
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 7, 2023 14:17:18 GMT
Bet if your wife or daughter just took 'A bit of a slap' and were spat on you'd all be straight on FB going 'Duz N e 1 kNow whO thIS bloke is as I wANT to kICk is eD in' and not, 'Don't see what all the fuss is and just move on cause he might score a goal'. Belters the lot of you. What are you talking about? If you or anybody elses wife or daughter racially abused me,they should count themselves lucky. Is that an actual fact or a gaschat fact? Nothing said he was racially abused.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 7, 2023 14:18:26 GMT
Joey will mentor the lad (through his own experiences) then hopefully and we'll get a focused goal machine this term. That's the worry.
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Post by wallywalters on Jul 7, 2023 14:20:10 GMT
Jevani brown does by the looks of it. Is it right. No it isn't. Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a second chance, a chance of rehabilitation and a career in football. If he doesnt learn from his mistakes and does it again then he deserves all he gets. That’s not what anyone is saying. There are people here minimising what he has done or justifying it. If he was to publicly apologise, to the persons involved, Exeter and Rovers fans, make a sizeable contribution to Shelter or a similar organisation and agree to do some work with HGT, then that’s a road to a second chance, repentance and forgiveness. However I willing to bet the ostrich approach will be taken on the hope that a few goals makes everything right. He publicly apologised in court today to the victims and for his behaviour so he's taken the first step.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jul 7, 2023 14:22:26 GMT
Joey will mentor the lad (through his own experiences) then hopefully and we'll get a focused goal machine this term. Jesus christ!! We really are in deep if that is the case. Honestly, it is no wonder HGT want nothing to do with us if this is the sort of thing we are prepared to turn a blind eye to.
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Post by toggsy2 on Jul 7, 2023 14:24:06 GMT
That’s not what anyone is saying. There are people here minimising what he has done or justifying it. If he was to publicly apologise, to the persons involved, Exeter and Rovers fans, make a sizeable contribution to Shelter or a similar organisation and agree to do some work with HGT, then that’s a road to a second chance, repentance and forgiveness. However I willing to bet the ostrich approach will be taken on the hope that a few goals makes everything right. He publicly apologised in court today to the victims and for his behaviour so he's taken the first step. Yes I read that as well I think someone people just want to carry the argument on instead of letting it drop
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Post by peterparker on Jul 7, 2023 14:24:07 GMT
I just want to throw a different spin on this for a moment.
Regardless of the rights and wrongs in signing Brown, I find it astonishing (so far) that the club have yet to say anything. Surely they would have been prepared for what was likely going to happen today and what would be said.
The club will get a lot of stick and no doubt Brown will next season, but given the outcome, the mention of alcohol and sporting chance, I would be expecting the club to come out and publicly support their player with those issues (Again regardless of what anyone of us things about him being her/the club signing him) as I presume they are doing privately
edit I may be jumping the gun and maybe they are waiting for Jevani to get back to the club before doing anything, at least I hope that's what it is, and the club aren't going to pretend it is something that hasn't happened
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Post by herbertblake on Jul 7, 2023 14:28:16 GMT
If we only went and signed Alfie May instead of Brown we would not need to talk about violence against women.
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Post by dudelebowski on Jul 7, 2023 14:29:08 GMT
Aye, especially given the founders have had season tickets for as long as I can be bothered to mention. Irony being I can imagine it’s actually their critics that have been privy to comps before and/or were those scamming the club by using duplicate tickets etc… What people have against brand new young fans being treated to their first ever match on the house, fully beyond me. You are correct here. Tickets for games aren’t what should be in question at all. The question I would have is if the fact that they seem to be invited to invitation only award ceremonies makes it more difficult for them to approach this on a balanced angle, the lines may have been blurred between professional partnership and being mates. Not a criticism btw, just saying I can see how it makes it harder for them and may be something worth considering in the future. Awards night or not, this is the club they love and like most have supported all of their lives. It’s no easy situation whatever the case. Regardless, to receive any grief over this is mind boggling. No less due to the hours & hours of unpaid voluntary work that goes into it and the hundreds (at least) of young girls that look up to them. Anyway, court day has come & gone. I guess it’s down to the individual how the end result is taken. Rovers themselves can crack on with the summer and season ahead now.
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Post by herbertblake on Jul 7, 2023 14:30:05 GMT
Will hergametoo now disassociate themselves from BRFC? Sounds like you’ve had that post waiting in your drafts for weeks. Mighty odd go to comment if ever you’ve seen it. No just off the cuff remark been away cooling off in Spain for the last 16 days so not thought much or anything about a court case.
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Post by toggsy2 on Jul 7, 2023 14:30:31 GMT
That’s not what anyone is saying. There are people here minimising what he has done or justifying it. If he was to publicly apologise, to the persons involved, Exeter and Rovers fans, make a sizeable contribution to Shelter or a similar organisation and agree to do some work with HGT, then that’s a road to a second chance, repentance and forgiveness. However I willing to bet the ostrich approach will be taken on the hope that a few goals makes everything right. He publicly apologised in court today to the victims and for his behaviour so he's taken the first step. Also further down the Evening Post article "Mr Hector said it would be difficult for Brown to do community work as he played professional football, including games away from home. He said the defendant already gave his time helping to coach young people and engaging in community activity."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 14:31:09 GMT
You are correct here. Tickets for games aren’t what should be in question at all. The question I would have is if the fact that they seem to be invited to invitation only award ceremonies makes it more difficult for them to approach this on a balanced angle, the lines may have been blurred between professional partnership and being mates. Not a criticism btw, just saying I can see how it makes it harder for them and may be something worth considering in the future. Awards night or not, this is the club they love and like most have supported all of their lives. It’s no easy situation whatever the case. Regardless, to receive any grief over this is mind boggling. No less due to the hours & hours of unpaid voluntary work that goes into it and the hundreds (at least) of young girls that look up to them. Anyway, court day has come & gone. I guess it’s down to the individual how the end result is taken. Rovers themselves can crack on with the summer and season ahead now. I agree with you in the main on all points. The only people who should be copping abuse for this is BRFC. Can’t wait for next years Instalment of BRFC court day, it comes round quicker every year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 14:34:41 GMT
I just want to throw a different spin on this for a moment. Regardless of the rights and wrongs in signing Brown, I find it astonishing (so far) that the club have yet to say anything. Surely they would have been prepared for what was likely going to happen today and what would be said. The club will get a lot of stick and no doubt Brown will next season, but given the outcome, the mention of alcohol and sporting chance, I would be expecting the club to come out and publicly support their player with those issues (Again regardless of what anyone of us things about him being her/the club signing him) as I presume they are doing privately Not just the club, Adam Tutton resigned from the carnival not even over a criminal offence, just a t shirt being sold?! How does he and his team go into the community on this? I said wait until the court evidence, damning CCTV evidence. I’ve done jury service, many others will have done on this forum, this isn’t a random opinion on it all, a jury of 12 have found him guilty, we are told you can’t be 99% sure, you have to be 100% sure and he even admitted it! Having your hair pulled doesn’t give you the right to hit women and spit in their face. The owner publicly said when Barton was arrested that anyone found guilty of assault will be sacked. The manager’s wife was that desperate she dialled 999, video evidence was used in his case but he got it thrown out as the trial would unfair, his wife got her story wrong. We are now signing players who hit women all this for the sake of success, what have we become?
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Post by hengrove2018 on Jul 7, 2023 14:38:33 GMT
Does this decision put Weal in a difficult position as he stated in July 2021 the following in regards to Joey` court case?
But after widespread criticism of the club's statement, Wael Al Qadi said in an open letter today: “Firstly, I think it is really important to confirm that as a club we stand firmly against any form of violence. Any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately.27 Jul 2021
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