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Post by warehamgas on Jul 20, 2023 11:17:26 GMT
Why anyone would want to go to a stone age, fascist dump like that is beyond me. Qatar was bad enough, but SA is near the top of the list of backward countries, along with Kuwait which I had the misfortune to visit with work last year. I agree totally with your descriptions. I can think of several million reasons thoughš° Morals go out the window when copious amount of moneys involved. Just look at Jordan Henderson. Vocally supporting LBGTQ groups for years. Yet has just packed his bags to move to a country where being every single letter in the groups he was supposedly supporting is illegal just to get even more wealthy than he already is. Yes, I agree, one of the many reasons why discussions about football and footballers are frustrating. You know 99% of footballers will go where they make most money even if theyāve tried to support causes that support racial and sexual equality. And they usually come out with something about ātrying to change something from insideā. Nothing wrong with chasing the best contract offers but I wish theyād be honest about their motivation. UTG! |
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Post by oldie on Jul 20, 2023 12:33:02 GMT
So a comment is made about āno players in their prime or at elite levelā going there, and yet an elite World-class midfielder of 26 years old thatās been playing top flight football in England for the last 5 seasons (another 1 year getting Wolves promoted as Champions from the Championship) and previously played for Porto isnāt someone they are aware of? A player that started over Ronaldo in the Morocco game at the recent World Cup? Played in every Portugal match at the World Cup? Iād respectfully suggest that if Neves is somebody that has never been heard of then discussing who elite players are probably isnāt the thread for him. The guy played over 200 games and scored 27 goals over here as a defensive midfielder and yet heād never spotted him on the highlights? Definitely not the right thread to raise his knowledge of elite level footballers in their prime then for me. So it appears |
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Post by oldie on Jul 20, 2023 12:34:08 GMT
I agree totally with your descriptions. I can think of several million reasons thoughš° Morals go out the window when copious amount of moneys involved. Just look at Jordan Henderson. Vocally supporting LBGTQ groups for years. Yet has just packed his bags to move to a country where being every single letter in the groups he was supposedly supporting is illegal just to get even more wealthy than he already is. Yes, I agree, one of the many reasons why discussions about football and footballers are frustrating. You know 99% of footballers will go where they make most money even if theyāve tried to support causes that support racial and sexual equality. And they usually come out with something about ātrying to change something from insideā.Ā Nothing wrong with chasing the best contract offers but I wish theyād be honest about their motivation.Ā UTG! Isn't that true, generally, of any profession? |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jul 20, 2023 12:58:20 GMT
I hope youāre joking! š Sorry Gaswood! i presume from your reply that the player is well known, you must excuse my ignorance as i tend not to take much notice of the Premiership and all the hype that goes with it, if he is a player good enough for the Prem but has chosen S.A i would think that money must be his motivation rather than any professional ambitions or job satisfaction, imagine most of the top players want to play at the highest level and win the biggest prizes which will in turn generate enough in wages for most players, depends on what makes you tick i suppose. Plenty of players have gone to Man City and the like on great wages but hardly ever played, even at our level we had Taylor, got a great deal for himself and was just a bench warmer at City, as i said depends what you love the most ,playing football or collecting cash! right i will go back to sleep now! |
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 20, 2023 18:10:51 GMT
Yes, I agree, one of the many reasons why discussions about football and footballers are frustrating. You know 99% of footballers will go where they make most money even if theyāve tried to support causes that support racial and sexual equality. And they usually come out with something about ātrying to change something from insideā. Nothing wrong with chasing the best contract offers but I wish theyād be honest about their motivation. UTG! Isn't that true, generally, of any profession? Yes, youāre probably right and that is why I said ānothing wrong with chasing the best contractā¦.ā Although I think most other professions may well admit that they are chasing the cash. Either way itās a world where money talks. UTG! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 20, 2023 18:28:58 GMT
So a comment is made about āno players in their prime or at elite levelā going there, and yet an elite World-class midfielder of 26 years old thatās been playing top flight football in England for the last 5 seasons (another 1 year getting Wolves promoted as Champions from the Championship) and previously played for Porto isnāt someone they are aware of? A player that started over Ronaldo in the Morocco game at the recent World Cup? Played in every Portugal match at the World Cup? Iād respectfully suggest that if Neves is somebody that has never been heard of then discussing who elite players are probably isnāt the thread for him. The guy played over 200 games and scored 27 goals over here as a defensive midfielder and yet heād never spotted him on the highlights? Definitely not the right thread to raise his knowledge of elite level footballers in their prime then for me. Neves seems to be the only player in his prime years who's signed, another golden oldie in Henderson is their latest recruit, you do wonder how long it will last as I assume each team will have a handful of star players and the rest home based players, so it's be a bit like a famous player turning out for his local non league side. No doubt the money is good but you don't get to Henderson's level purely chasing the Ā£'s, he must also surely enjoy the competitive nature of football in the Premiership? |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 20, 2023 18:33:56 GMT
I would hope Gareth wouldn't pick anyone for England who moved to a club in Saudi Arabia. Obviously the standard will improve in time but not currently
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 20, 2023 19:57:59 GMT
I would hope Gareth wouldn't pick anyone for England who moved to a club in Saudi Arabia. Obviously the standard will improve in time but not currently I know playing for your national team probably isn't what it was but this would possibly make players think twice before going over there if this was the case. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jul 21, 2023 7:43:53 GMT
I would hope Gareth wouldn't pick anyone for England who moved to a club in Saudi Arabia. Obviously the standard will improve in time but not currently Yes I hope so too. It would send a clear message. Obviously Henderson is coming to the end of his international career but he probably had one more tournament in him if only as a squad player and as someone who is normally the vice captain. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 21, 2023 10:10:21 GMT
I would hope Gareth wouldn't pick anyone for England who moved to a club in Saudi Arabia. Obviously the standard will improve in time but not currently Yes I hope so too. It would send a clear message. Obviously Henderson is coming to the end of his international career but he probably had one more tournament in him if only as a squad player and as someone who is normally the vice captain. Said Qatar Gas š |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jul 22, 2023 1:24:25 GMT
Yes I hope so too. It would send a clear message. Obviously Henderson is coming to the end of his international career but he probably had one more tournament in him if only as a squad player and as someone who is normally the vice captain. Said Qatar Gas š Think my chances of an international call up were long gone before I moved to the Middle East! |
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Post by xenongas on Jul 22, 2023 10:43:43 GMT
Their stated aim is to break into the top 10 leagues in the world. So it's massively unlikely a full England international will play at that standard. You don't often see anyone from the championship called up for instance.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 24, 2023 15:06:19 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jul 24, 2023 15:11:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2023 15:20:28 GMT
Very much doubt heāll go there š [br may go along with mitrovic and plenty others. This league has a better draw then living in china |
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Post by Quarters on Jul 24, 2023 15:28:48 GMT
Mbappe has an agreement to join Real Madrid next season as will be out of contract.
PSG want rid of him now, so maybe there is an option for one season in Saudi
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Post by yattongas on Jul 24, 2023 15:43:28 GMT
Blimey ā¦.. PSG accept bid ! š®
Still donāt think heāll go there though.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 24, 2023 16:10:44 GMT
Very much doubt heāll go there š [br may go along with mitrovic and plenty others. This league has a better draw then living in Paris Corrected for accuracy š |
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Post by eric on Jul 24, 2023 16:56:43 GMT
Mbappe has an agreement to join Real Madrid next season as will be out of contract. PSG want rid of him now, so maybe there is an option for one season in Saudi Not sure how that would work. Would even a Saudi team pay Ā£1/4bn to sign a player on a one year deal? If he signed a longer term deal with the Saudiās then Real Madrid wouldnāt be getting him on a free transfer in 12 months - Iād imagine they would prefer he just sat out his time at PSG and then sign him on a free even if it meant little or no action. I think PSG are obliged to allow him to train, stay fit and get medical treatment etc otherwise they be in breach of his employment conditions. If he is totally money motivated the. He will sign for the Saudiās. If he wants to be an all time great then I suspect there will be some form of compromise and a lower fee deal arranged with Real Madrid. The other option of course is that Marquis is being lined up for a move to Gillingham to open a squad place for Mbappe? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 24, 2023 18:19:21 GMT
Apparently part of the deal is that they'll allow him to join Real Madrid next summer, although not sure I'd trust them to send him back in one piece!
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