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Post by trevorgas on Aug 11, 2023 9:14:59 GMT
Does anyone think any of the other Senior folk are at risk and was this a New Owner decision or already in the pipeline? I cannot see how Gorringe is not impacted by this? Surely he would have been the senior ops executive in the room when all major decisions are made? If not, what exactly does he do? I agree with you Les,hence my attempt at a diplomatic question,perhaps he will be on "probation" with the new owners. Objectively I have no idea about whether TG does a good or bad job,Alli would say is that the club has moved forward significantly since he has been there,he came highly recommended and with a fair bit of experience from his time at Brighton. You will know as well as I that there are many complexities to running any business and that applies to a football club, particularly one like ours which has a legacy of issues . |
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Post by percy on Aug 11, 2023 9:18:27 GMT
Oh dear, people now calling for a complete overhaul.
As Trevorgas says, under TG we have mostly moved forward. Be careful what you all wish for.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 11, 2023 9:19:23 GMT
Apart from Tom Gorribge Waels recruitment of staff behind the scenes has been shambolic.Hopefully Hussain will have a more professional approach in that regard The South Stand fiasco has to be our last cock up and the new owners can come up with a coherent plan going forward at the stadium I don't see why Gorringe gets a pass. He runs the football club. He would have given Bright whatever responsibility Bright had. The club is in many ways just a more expensively run, PR-centric version of the Higgs days - the stand debacle, the b8g screen in -1 temperatures not working, season cards out last minute as usual, blaming Ticketmaster for everything, an away top saying football is for everyone then telling the away club they can't bring disabled fans, all very Higgsian, even if they've revamped a couple of the bars and have flashy tat to sell at the club shop, run by a bloke from Blackburn who pretends he's lifelong Gas Why have a pop at Pete because he's from Blackburn? When has he "pretended" to be "lifelong" Gas? He does a very good job, I don't care if he supports his hometown club - it doesn't detract from his approach to his job at Rovers. I'm sure that all employees support the club, and form some attachments (if they are here long enough). |
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Post by percy on Aug 11, 2023 9:20:41 GMT
I don't see why Gorringe gets a pass. He runs the football club. He would have given Bright whatever responsibility Bright had. The club is in many ways just a more expensively run, PR-centric version of the Higgs days - the stand debacle, the b8g screen in -1 temperatures not working, season cards out last minute as usual, blaming Ticketmaster for everything, an away top saying football is for everyone then telling the away club they can't bring disabled fans, all very Higgsian, even if they've revamped a couple of the bars and have flashy tat to sell at the club shop, run by a bloke from Blackburn who pretends he's lifelong Gas Why have a pop at Pete because he's from Blackburn? When has he "pretended" to be "lifelong" Gas? He does a very good job, I don't care if he supports his hometown club - it doesn't detract from his approach to his job at Rovers. I'm sure that all employees support the club, and form some attachments (if they are here long enough). Agreed, completely unnecessary. Some people just love to stir sh*t |
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Post by buckaroo on Aug 11, 2023 9:21:28 GMT
Lets review Ticket diaster first priority ticket master needs to go season ticket holders paid but no seats to sit on Delay in shirt release lack of planning permission resulting in reduction in stadium capacity contactless stadium upsetting old pensioners who dont have cards 50/50 draw debacle Getting rid of an award winning programme editor and number of experienced contributors resulting in producing an embarrassing match day programme Branding debacle trying to change badge brsc brfpa blue diamond club upset by having to hold their events at Gloucestershire ccc instead of Mem Positives Introduction of fans zone and large screen Superb playing surface You missed out the Pirate Pot debacle. Embarrassingly amateur hour. |
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Post by oldie on Aug 11, 2023 9:27:05 GMT
I cannot see how Gorringe is not impacted by this? Surely he would have been the senior ops executive in the room when all major decisions are made? If not, what exactly does he do? gorringe is one of those clever blokes that is seen and heard only on good news days. Now that everything that can be has been outsourced won't be surprised to see a broom coming his way Reality is we do not know what goes on behind closed doors. However, taking the new South Stand as an example, I cannot see the authority to commit funds lying with the Head of Sales. So authority to commit was given without a clear pathway for the project to be completed, which is extraordinary. I do know that free help from a very experienced gashead in all aspects of gaining planning permission was offered and declined. Mr Bright was warned by this person that gaining permission in the time frames suggested was highly unlikely. And so it came to pass. Having met both men, Gorringe and Bright I was a bit perplexed. Bright appeared to be an earnest ops guy running around like a rabbit in the headlights, Comms device glued to his hand as he was desperately trying to resolve the crisis of the moment. In that instance it was the Fleetwood owner and directors shouting very loudly about being seated in the middle of Rovers fans. It was hilarious and especially sweet now that the main loudmouth is now in prison. All the while Gorringe was floating around as if a ghost with a featureless face suggesting he had just seen Medusa. |
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Post by meader on Aug 11, 2023 9:28:58 GMT
This certainly is a right mess. No wonder people laugh at us. If planning permission hasn’t been heard, then why was the south stand demolished? Did someone think that they could build a new stand without permission?
We now have a lower capacity for both home and away fans. Which means less money coming into the club.
No wonder the Memorial Stadium ranks as one of the worse stadiums in the UK. It’s a shambles.
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Post by toggsy2 on Aug 11, 2023 9:29:05 GMT
David Bright sacked from Rovers with possibly Gorringe about to follow too and presumeably Barton under review These new owners want their own men apparently. Big changes at the club. Well that will please Barton haters group |
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 11, 2023 9:34:14 GMT
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 11, 2023 9:40:16 GMT
Does seem a bit off the Head of Sales being put in charge of developing a stand.
That said, to be devils advocate:
- we’re not Manchester City and therefore the senior staff of the club are going to have responsibilities beyond what their job title suggests.
- all the more so, Gorringe may be focussed on a new stadium and therefore might not have had the bandwidth for the new stand
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2023 9:41:58 GMT
Probably not a surprise.... his performance has been going down hill for months ...
Looked scruffy - wondered if he was living out of a suitcase ?
Late for events - poorly run events
Time for a change.
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Post by oldie on Aug 11, 2023 9:42:41 GMT
Does seem a bit off the Head of Sales being put in charge of developing a stand. That said, to be devils advocate: - we’re not Manchester City and therefore the senior staff of the club are going to have responsibilities beyond what their job title suggests. - all the more so, Gorringe may be focussed on a new stadium and therefore might not have had the bandwidth for the new stand I don't buy that, it's not that difficult. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 11, 2023 9:43:24 GMT
gorringe is one of those clever blokes that is seen and heard only on good news days. Now that everything that can be has been outsourced won't be surprised to see a broom coming his way Reality is we do not know what goes on behind closed doors. However, taking the new South Stand as an example, I cannot see the authority to commit funds lying with the Head of Sales. So authority to commit was given without a clear pathway for the project to be completed, which is extraordinary. I do know that free help from a very experienced gashead in all aspects of gaining planning permission was offered and declined. Mr Bright was warned by this person that gaining permission in the time frames suggested was highly unlikely. And so it came to pass. Having met both men, Gorringe and Bright I was a bit perplexed. Bright appeared to be an earnest ops guy running around like a rabbit in the headlights, Comms device glued to his hand as he was desperately trying to resolve the crisis of the moment. In that instance it was the Fleetwood owner and directors shouting very loudly about being seated in the middle of Rovers fans. It was hilarious and especially sweet now that the main loudmouth is now in prison. All the while Gorringe was floating around as if a ghost with a featureless face suggesting he had just seen Medusa. I think Bright made the mistake of blabbing about the new South Stand at a business function, however, I have always viewed it as primarily a Gorringe project. Maybe the planning expert warned the wrong person? I do think that we are likely to get permission soon, and, with the ground having been done, the stand won't take that long to erect. (may well end up with egg on my face for this!) |
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Post by percy on Aug 11, 2023 9:45:38 GMT
Reality is we do not know what goes on behind closed doors. However, taking the new South Stand as an example, I cannot see the authority to commit funds lying with the Head of Sales. So authority to commit was given without a clear pathway for the project to be completed, which is extraordinary. I do know that free help from a very experienced gashead in all aspects of gaining planning permission was offered and declined. Mr Bright was warned by this person that gaining permission in the time frames suggested was highly unlikely. And so it came to pass. Having met both men, Gorringe and Bright I was a bit perplexed. Bright appeared to be an earnest ops guy running around like a rabbit in the headlights, Comms device glued to his hand as he was desperately trying to resolve the crisis of the moment. In that instance it was the Fleetwood owner and directors shouting very loudly about being seated in the middle of Rovers fans. It was hilarious and especially sweet now that the main loudmouth is now in prison. All the while Gorringe was floating around as if a ghost with a featureless face suggesting he had just seen Medusa. I think Bright made the mistake of blabbing about the new South Stand at a business function, however, I have always viewed it as primarily a Gorringe project. Maybe the planning expert warned the wrong person? I do think that we are likely to get permission soon, and, with the ground having been done, the stand won't take that long to erect. (may well end up with egg on my face for this!) Hope you are right Tilly. Feel sorry for away fans coming to us over the next few months |
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 11, 2023 9:47:29 GMT
As usual, guesswork.
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Post by albaron on Aug 11, 2023 9:51:06 GMT
David Bright sacked from Rovers with possibly Gorringe about to follow too and presumeably Barton under review These new owners want their own men apparently. Big changes at the club. Well that will please Barton haters group Why would they take any notice of malicious gossip. I'm not surprised this poster has spread these rumours -- Seems to be a bit of habit. Disgusting. |
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Post by oldie on Aug 11, 2023 9:51:50 GMT
Reality is we do not know what goes on behind closed doors. However, taking the new South Stand as an example, I cannot see the authority to commit funds lying with the Head of Sales. So authority to commit was given without a clear pathway for the project to be completed, which is extraordinary. I do know that free help from a very experienced gashead in all aspects of gaining planning permission was offered and declined. Mr Bright was warned by this person that gaining permission in the time frames suggested was highly unlikely. And so it came to pass. Having met both men, Gorringe and Bright I was a bit perplexed. Bright appeared to be an earnest ops guy running around like a rabbit in the headlights, Comms device glued to his hand as he was desperately trying to resolve the crisis of the moment. In that instance it was the Fleetwood owner and directors shouting very loudly about being seated in the middle of Rovers fans. It was hilarious and especially sweet now that the main loudmouth is now in prison. All the while Gorringe was floating around as if a ghost with a featureless face suggesting he had just seen Medusa. I think Bright made the mistake of blabbing about the new South Stand at a business function, however, I have always viewed it as primarily a Gorringe project. Maybe the planning expert warned the wrong person? I do think that we are likely to get permission soon, and, with the ground having been done, the stand won't take that long to erect. (may well end up with egg on my face for this!) With you on eventually gaining permission. The guy in question is well known to Gorringe and had worked with Geoff D (and Higgs I think) on applying for and achieving planning permission for previous incarnations of Mem redevelopment. But the main point is, is Gorringe over promoted? |
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Post by singupgas on Aug 11, 2023 9:53:58 GMT
David Bright sacked from Rovers with possibly Gorringe about to follow too and presumeably Barton under review These new owners want their own men apparently. Big changes at the club. Not sure what the playing side of things have to do with this to be fair. JB is safe. The playing side of things, JB being backed and bringing in some decent players is the only thing showing an promise. The south stand, the FM Stadium situation, they are things that need real attention to get right. If the club were seriously reviewing JB position that would be a concern. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 11, 2023 9:59:44 GMT
Lets hope this announcement from the club is the last negative this week and doesn't overshadow the big signing hopefully announced soon ! Wind up merchant or ITK ? don't know F all like everybody on here, but i did say hopefully in my statement ! |
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Post by toggsy2 on Aug 11, 2023 10:00:32 GMT
Well that will please Barton haters group Why would they take any notice of malicious gossip. I'm not surprised this poster has spread these rumours -- Seems to be a bit of habit. Disgusting. There's always hidden agendas with certain people. In regards to Barton I think he's the right man for the job he knows his stuff on the field and the quality of players both perms and loans have improved since he's been at the helm. Whilst he's not everyone's cup of tea and his off the field antics are much to be desired there is no denying that he is good at his job and he is doing what he's paid to do |
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