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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 9, 2023 12:06:32 GMT
I read all that previously and that would perhaps be impressive if they were taking over Mangotsfield United or Bristol Manor Farm, but I'm still left wondering how they made their fortune and what other business interests they have that enabled them to buy into a League One football club? The shoddy Foodco website isn't very clear and contains links that don't work and although we are told similarly on their amateurish real estate website (that was seemingly last updated about a decade ago and had little evidence of any activity back then) and the Post/Programme article that they successfully developed "multi-story group housing, residential townships, shopping malls, office buildings, hotels and restaurants", it isn't actually very clear from their poorly constructed websites and The Post just repeating those lines from the sites doesn't help much either. www.elmamrealestate.com/www.foodco-kw.com/index.htmlImpressive for Bristol Manor farm?? You do know how much investment companies can make? Look at Landsdown. Plus there is loads of money in real estate, some of those projects were huge. He must have had the money to fund them. I know the websites are not up to date, but that does not mean they are not still running. They might not need to advertise. He had enough money to buy his share and clear debts and Wael said he looked him to him and discussions were ongoing for months. The budget looks like it was increased and we agreed a deal with JCH. It was messed up, but they agreed to the transfer fee and wage demands. How do you know all this is correct? If everything has been completed why haven't the records at Companies House been updated?
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 9, 2023 12:15:00 GMT
So we have mystery owners who when it came to the crunch couldn't, for whatever reasons, pull off their status signing. 🤔🤔🤔 Topper mate you can argue/disagree/moan about anything I swear. So here’s a picture of a rock to prove my point I lichen your post. 😉
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 9, 2023 12:18:21 GMT
Impressive for Bristol Manor farm?? You do know how much investment companies can make? Look at Landsdown. Plus there is loads of money in real estate, some of those projects were huge. He must have had the money to fund them. I know the websites are not up to date, but that does not mean they are not still running. They might not need to advertise. He had enough money to buy his share and clear debts and Wael said he looked him to him and discussions were ongoing for months. The budget looks like it was increased and we agreed a deal with JCH. It was messed up, but they agreed to the transfer fee and wage demands. How do you know all this is correct? If everything has been completed why haven't the records at Companies House been updated? We had in this with previous rumors and it was updated at a later date. Shares were adjusted before the rumors of the investment came out. I thought they said it was completed and Wael talked about it. Why would he do that, if he wasn't paid?? It didn't happen, but we bid for JCH for the banter???😂 Sometimes it takes a while to update.
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Post by devonwhite9 on Sept 9, 2023 12:23:25 GMT
It's hard to believe that two individuals with no internet history (Google is the biggest internet co. Kuwait) can be multi millionaires and the companies they claim to run don't even seem to be operating in Kuwait. No wonder they are keeping a low public profile. Andy Pilley's company has a great website - I wonder what he's up to these days? Roman Abramovich's company has barely any internet presence at all. Did he sell a lot of hot dogs to fund those Premier League titles?
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Post by pirate on Sept 9, 2023 12:36:46 GMT
I read all that previously and that would perhaps be impressive if they were taking over Mangotsfield United or Bristol Manor Farm, but I'm still left wondering how they made their fortune and what other business interests they have that enabled them to buy into a League One football club? The shoddy Foodco website isn't very clear and contains links that don't work and although we are told similarly on their amateurish real estate website (that was seemingly last updated about a decade ago and had little evidence of any activity back then) and the Post/Programme article that they successfully developed "multi-story group housing, residential townships, shopping malls, office buildings, hotels and restaurants", it isn't actually very clear from their poorly constructed websites and The Post just repeating those lines from the sites doesn't help much either. www.elmamrealestate.com/www.foodco-kw.com/index.htmlImpressive for Bristol Manor farm?? You do know how much investment companies can make? Look at Landsdown. Plus there is loads of money in real estate, some of those projects were huge. He must have had the money to fund them. I know the websites are not up to date, but that does not mean they are not still running. They might not need to advertise. He had enough money to buy his share and clear debts and Wael said he looked him to him and discussions were ongoing for months. The budget looks like it was increased and we agreed a deal with JCH. It was messed up, but they agreed to the transfer fee and wage demands. He was 'treasury and investment manager' at the Commercial Bank of Kuwait and then 'assistant general manager' at Kuwait Investment International Company so it's a bit of a stretch to mention Lansdown. It isn't clear what "huge" projects Mr Al-Saeed has been involved in because the website isn't very informative. I'd be grateful if you could point me in the right direction and I'll looking forward to reading all about them. Thanks. As for the JCH shamble£, it loo£s increasingly like£y to me that for whatever rea£on someone got cold feet at the last minute.
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Post by pirate on Sept 9, 2023 12:45:17 GMT
It's hard to believe that two individuals with no internet history (Google is the biggest internet co. Kuwait) can be multi millionaires and the companies they claim to run don't even seem to be operating in Kuwait. No wonder they are keeping a low public profile. Andy Pilley's company has a great website - I wonder what he's up to these days? Roman Abramovich's company has barely any internet presence at all. Did he sell a lot of hot dogs to fund those Premier League titles? It's slightly fanciful to mention the likes of Abramovich in comparison with this Attachment Deleted
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 9, 2023 13:06:07 GMT
Impressive for Bristol Manor farm?? You do know how much investment companies can make? Look at Landsdown. Plus there is loads of money in real estate, some of those projects were huge. He must have had the money to fund them. I know the websites are not up to date, but that does not mean they are not still running. They might not need to advertise. He had enough money to buy his share and clear debts and Wael said he looked him to him and discussions were ongoing for months. The budget looks like it was increased and we agreed a deal with JCH. It was messed up, but they agreed to the transfer fee and wage demands. He was 'treasury and investment manager' at the Commercial Bank of Kuwait and then 'assistant general manager' at Kuwait Investment International Company so it's a bit of a stretch to mention Lansdown. It isn't clear what "huge" projects Mr Al-Saeed has been involved in because the website isn't very informative. I'd be grateful if you could point me in the right direction and I'll looking forward to reading all about them. Thanks. As for the JCH shamble£, it loo£s increasingly like£y to me that for whatever rea£on someone got cold feet at the last minute. Miss out the last sentence to fit your narrative! If you are going to quote a paragraph quote it all. He then set up his own finance company. Landsdown started as owner and didn't work for other companies first??? Yes he was in charge first, before setting up M.E.C
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Post by baggins on Sept 9, 2023 13:08:21 GMT
Not sure I'm bothered about how, where he got his money, it'll ensure the Gas are still about right?
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 9, 2023 13:11:12 GMT
He was 'treasury and investment manager' at the Commercial Bank of Kuwait and then 'assistant general manager' at Kuwait Investment International Company so it's a bit of a stretch to mention Lansdown. It isn't clear what "huge" projects Mr Al-Saeed has been involved in because the website isn't very informative. I'd be grateful if you could point me in the right direction and I'll looking forward to reading all about them. Thanks. As for the JCH shamble£, it loo£s increasingly like£y to me that for whatever rea£on someone got cold feet at the last minute. Miss out the last sentence to fit your narrative! If you are going to quote a paragraph quote it all. He then set up his own finance company. Landsdown started as owner and didn't work for other companies first??? Yes he was in charge first, before setting up M.E.C There's also zero signs of any Kuwait firm called MEC Consultancy on the intranet, there's a MEC Study Group but that seems to be a study group rather than investment co.
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Post by pirate on Sept 9, 2023 13:16:07 GMT
He was 'treasury and investment manager' at the Commercial Bank of Kuwait and then 'assistant general manager' at Kuwait Investment International Company so it's a bit of a stretch to mention Lansdown. It isn't clear what "huge" projects Mr Al-Saeed has been involved in because the website isn't very informative. I'd be grateful if you could point me in the right direction and I'll looking forward to reading all about them. Thanks. As for the JCH shamble£, it loo£s increasingly like£y to me that for whatever rea£on someone got cold feet at the last minute. Miss out the last sentence to fit your narrative! If you are going to quote a paragraph quote it all. He then set up his own finance company. Landsdown started as owner and didn't work for other companies first??? Yes he was in charge first, before setting up M.E.C He then setup M.E.C Consultants, correct. Forgive me, but I can't find out much (anything) about the company. Afer finding out about the other huge projects, If you could point me in the direction of the M.E.C Consultants website or any further information then I'd be ever so grateful and look forward to reading all about the business. Thank you.
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 9, 2023 13:28:53 GMT
Miss out the last sentence to fit your narrative! If you are going to quote a paragraph quote it all. He then set up his own finance company. Landsdown started as owner and didn't work for other companies first??? Yes he was in charge first, before setting up M.E.C He then setup M.E.C Consultants, correct. Forgive me, but I can't find out much (anything) about the company. Afer finding out about the other huge projects, If you could point me in the direction of the M.E.C Consultants website or any further information then I'd be ever so grateful and look forward to reading all about the business. Thank you. They are private over there. There are lots of MECs, it could be an abbreviate for anything. Some are small study groups, others work with large banks in Kuwait and other countries and are worth loads. I don't have a clue which one they own, or owned. If they wanted us or other clubs chairman's to know, they would let us know which one it is. Other countries don't put everything on Google.
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Post by baggins on Sept 9, 2023 13:30:43 GMT
Miss out the last sentence to fit your narrative! If you are going to quote a paragraph quote it all. He then set up his own finance company. Landsdown started as owner and didn't work for other companies first??? Yes he was in charge first, before setting up M.E.C There's also zero signs of any Kuwait firm called MEC Consultancy on the intranet, there's a MEC Study Group but that seems to be a study group rather than investment co. Do you not think that it's beyond bad manners to even attempt to find out someone's wealth?
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 9, 2023 13:31:47 GMT
Adore threads like this, a debate with no substance as to if Wally’s new pal is skint or loaded. No one has a scooby.
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 9, 2023 13:40:51 GMT
Adore threads like this, a debate with no substance as to if Wally’s new pal is skint or loaded. No one has a scooby. I expect Wael did more than a Google search though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2023 13:57:30 GMT
Assuming this is a genuine LinkedIn profile then the VP's only business interests listed are the fast food co's and it's not even clear if they are still trading, as there's been no recent reviews on Tripadvisor. / Even I've got more than 67 LinkedIn connections! Companies House still only shows Wael & co as Rovers company Directors. As you previously pointed out the Al Elmam Real Estate Company website ( www.elmamrealestate.com/ ) was last updated a decade ago and had little evidence of any activity anyway and the Foodco. Website also doesn't reveal much as it seems the small Al Firya Kuwaiti Restaurant has permanently closed (link on website doesn't work anyway) and the other two links to the restaurant franchise chains of Buffalo's Cafe and Quiznos that Mr Al-Saeed owns the franchisee rights to are also broken and unaccessable. I'm still wondering and fascinated to know how they made their fortune and what other business interests they are involved in that enabled them to buy into a League One football club? www.foodco-kw.com/index.htmlIf you want to know how much the guy has in business interests and wealth jump on a plane, fly to Kuwait and log on to the Internet. Searches for information in Kuwait from the UK will deliver limited results as you have so far discovered. Just as well our new owner isn't from China as he would soon be accused of not existing at all. Personally I like the way he has acted so far, a typical arab approach, very quiet, taking his time to assess the club ready to make plans for the future and will not be rushed. It's a good idea to research and understand how business works in the middle east, nothing is rushed. Honour and reputation are generally held in much higher esteem in the middle east as opposed to the western world. There is a huge difference between the east and west where conducting business is concerned.
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 9, 2023 14:10:18 GMT
As you previously pointed out the Al Elmam Real Estate Company website ( www.elmamrealestate.com/ ) was last updated a decade ago and had little evidence of any activity anyway and the Foodco. Website also doesn't reveal much as it seems the small Al Firya Kuwaiti Restaurant has permanently closed (link on website doesn't work anyway) and the other two links to the restaurant franchise chains of Buffalo's Cafe and Quiznos that Mr Al-Saeed owns the franchisee rights to are also broken and unaccessable. I'm still wondering and fascinated to know how they made their fortune and what other business interests they are involved in that enabled them to buy into a League One football club? www.foodco-kw.com/index.htmlIf you want to know how much the guy has in business interests and wealth jump on a plane, fly to Kuwait and log on to the Internet. Searches for information in Kuwait from the UK will deliver limited results as you have so far discovered. Just as well our new owner isn't from China as he would soon be accused of not existing at all. Personally I like the way he has acted so far, a typical arab approach, very quiet, taking his time to assess the club ready to make plans for the future and will not be rushed. It's a good idea to research and understand how business works in the middle east, nothing is rushed. Honour and reputation are generally held in much higher esteem in the middle east as opposed to the western world. There is a huge difference between the east and west where conducting business is concerned. What if you use a VPN 😂. As you say, you can't find out any information, searching them over here. I wouldn't even know he had a son, if he wasn't on the board. Does he have other family etc?? We know, what they want us to know.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 9, 2023 14:19:24 GMT
There's also zero signs of any Kuwait firm called MEC Consultancy on the intranet, there's a MEC Study Group but that seems to be a study group rather than investment co. Do you not think that it's beyond bad manners to even attempt to find out someone's wealth? Who's trying to find their wealth, I doubt their bank accounts are shown anywhere online? Just trying to find out how they became wealthy enough to purchase 55% of the club, promise to develop the FM and also smash our long standing transfer record with what would have probably been the biggest transfer in L1 this summer.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 9, 2023 14:21:45 GMT
As you previously pointed out the Al Elmam Real Estate Company website ( www.elmamrealestate.com/ ) was last updated a decade ago and had little evidence of any activity anyway and the Foodco. Website also doesn't reveal much as it seems the small Al Firya Kuwaiti Restaurant has permanently closed (link on website doesn't work anyway) and the other two links to the restaurant franchise chains of Buffalo's Cafe and Quiznos that Mr Al-Saeed owns the franchisee rights to are also broken and unaccessable. I'm still wondering and fascinated to know how they made their fortune and what other business interests they are involved in that enabled them to buy into a League One football club? www.foodco-kw.com/index.htmlIf you want to know how much the guy has in business interests and wealth jump on a plane, fly to Kuwait and log on to the Internet. Searches for information in Kuwait from the UK will deliver limited results as you have so far discovered. Just as well our new owner isn't from China as he would soon be accused of not existing at all. Personally I like the way he has acted so far, a typical arab approach, very quiet, taking his time to assess the club ready to make plans for the future and will not be rushed. It's a good idea to research and understand how business works in the middle east, nothing is rushed. Honour and reputation are generally held in much higher esteem in the middle east as opposed to the western world. There is a huge difference between the east and west where conducting business is concerned. Surely spending £1m on JCH is the opposite to anybody quietly taking their time?
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 9, 2023 14:27:52 GMT
There's also zero signs of any Kuwait firm called MEC Consultancy on the intranet, there's a MEC Study Group but that seems to be a study group rather than investment co. Do you not think that it's beyond bad manners to even attempt to find out someone's wealth? 😆 bad manners on here? Nah.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2023 14:41:23 GMT
If you want to know how much the guy has in business interests and wealth jump on a plane, fly to Kuwait and log on to the Internet. Searches for information in Kuwait from the UK will deliver limited results as you have so far discovered. Just as well our new owner isn't from China as he would soon be accused of not existing at all. Personally I like the way he has acted so far, a typical arab approach, very quiet, taking his time to assess the club ready to make plans for the future and will not be rushed. It's a good idea to research and understand how business works in the middle east, nothing is rushed. Honour and reputation are generally held in much higher esteem in the middle east as opposed to the western world. There is a huge difference between the east and west where conducting business is concerned. What if you use a VPN 😂. As you say, you can't find out any information, searching them over here. I wouldn't even know he had a son, if he wasn't on the board. Does he have other family etc?? We know, what they want us to know. Haha yes use a VPN, about as useful as suncream in January in the UK! The term world wide web is incredibly misleading to anyone who hasn't or doesn't work in the industry so it's understandable to think that way to be fair. Perhaps country wide web, with the snippets the Americans allow you to read added in is a bit of mouthful!
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