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Post by baggins on Sept 10, 2023 6:57:58 GMT
So you are trying to find out their wealth, and how they earnt it. That's just vile. Something wrong with you. I do think that is a reasonable question from Topper. Due diligence? I don't think your comment adds anything to a discussion, just tries to shut it down (there is a chance that your post was being sarcastic, if so ignore me) Due diligence has been done by those that matter yes? I just think it's in poor taste to try and delve into someone's personal finance, and then with the intention of putting it on a Forum. Apologies if you think my concern adds nothing. |
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Post by gasify on Sept 10, 2023 7:02:42 GMT
I do think that is a reasonable question from Topper. Due diligence? I don't think your comment adds anything to a discussion, just tries to shut it down (there is a chance that your post was being sarcastic, if so ignore me) Due diligence has been done by those that matter yes? I just think it's in poor taste to try and delve into someone's personal finance, and then with the intention of putting it on a Forum. Apologies if you think my concern adds nothing. When it comes to everyday people, I tend to agree with you. It would be wrong of me to demand to know how much wealth you have and how did you earn it (I have none BTW!). However, if you step into the spotlight. Like being the majority shareholder in a football club (or an MP for that matter) then I think it is a fair question to ask what funds does the person have and where did it come from? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 10, 2023 7:24:49 GMT
I've zero interest where it came from, I'd just like to be confident that the new owners have the finances to deliver the FM, the lack of anything supporting that on the intranet and the JCH deal collapsing does make you wonder if they do.
Don't forget Baggins is continually posting the FM won't happen, so it seems they've no confidence that the new owners have the finances to fund a Stadium.
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Post by yattongas on Sept 10, 2023 7:32:10 GMT
F..k me , the conspiracy mob are out in force today 🙄😂
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 10, 2023 7:53:14 GMT
F..k me , the conspiracy mob are out in force today 🙄😂 The JCH deal collapsed because it was really a diversion from the incompetence of the south stand planning application, which itself is a diversion from the inability to get the FM done, which we pretend is still ongoing to sell season tickets. Is that it? |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 10, 2023 7:57:10 GMT
I've zero interest where it came from, I'd just like to be confident that the new owners have the finances to deliver the FM, the lack of anything supporting that on the intranet and the JCH deal collapsing does make you wonder if they do. Don't forget Baggins is continually posting the FM won't happen, so it seems they've no confidence that the new owners have the finances to fund a Stadium. Baggins is possibly just looking for a nibble. If the year goes by, plans come out for the site from Conygar and there is no Stadium, then yes I would also be onboard with your worries. The window just gone how many signings did we actually pay cash for. Must have been a handful? Usually we would pick up nearly all free transfers. They have/are replacing thes south stand with something not so temporary. But it clearly not a long term solution. But it has cost money. Just all getting a little bit disrespectful on here |
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Post by baggins on Sept 10, 2023 8:00:28 GMT
I've zero interest where it came from, I'd just like to be confident that the new owners have the finances to deliver the FM, the lack of anything supporting that on the intranet and the JCH deal collapsing does make you wonder if they do. Don't forget Baggins is continually posting the FM won't happen, so it seems they've no confidence that the new owners have the finances to fund a Stadium. Continually posting the FM won't happen? I've posted that once, and even then that doesn't suggest I have no faith in the new Owners. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 10, 2023 8:02:11 GMT
The stand was planned well before the new owners came on board and was paid for by an interest bearing loan something the new owners would never approve of?
As far as transfer fees the only one publicly confirmed was for Connor Taylor?
There's zero evidence the new owners have injected any extra money into the club at present, although Horfield's claiming the deals still to be fully completed which could be an explanation.
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 10, 2023 8:08:47 GMT
I've zero interest where it came from, I'd just like to be confident that the new owners have the finances to deliver the FM, the lack of anything supporting that on the intranet and the JCH deal collapsing does make you wonder if they do. Don't forget Baggins is continually posting the FM won't happen, so it seems they've no confidence that the new owners have the finances to fund a Stadium. Alright, chill out Sam Smith! 😄 They won't be funding the stadium anyway. This'll be an in/out relationship. Football doesn't make money for owners, only investors with a plan and exit strategy. I would be amazed if these guys have flown in to throw tens of millions at a construction project for some 3rd rate sh**ty ⚽️ club, with no hope of getting the cash back in the short term. |
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Post by baggins on Sept 10, 2023 8:18:49 GMT
I've zero interest where it came from, I'd just like to be confident that the new owners have the finances to deliver the FM, the lack of anything supporting that on the intranet and the JCH deal collapsing does make you wonder if they do. Don't forget Baggins is continually posting the FM won't happen, so it seems they've no confidence that the new owners have the finances to fund a Stadium. Baggins is possibly just looking for a nibble. If the year goes by, plans come out for the site from Conygar and there is no Stadium, then yes I would also be onboard with your worries. The window just gone how many signings did we actually pay cash for. Must have been a handful? Usually we would pick up nearly all free transfers. They have/are replacing thes south stand with something not so temporary. But it clearly not a long term solution. But it has cost money. Just all getting a little bit disrespectful on here I just have a feeling the FM won't happen. Not because of lack of funding on our part but mainly due to things such as planning, actual lack of development in the area, time already taken to get to what, no where? It's just all taking too long to even consider it anymore. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 10, 2023 8:21:50 GMT
The stand was planned well before the new owners came on board and was paid for by an interest bearing loan something the new owners would never approve of? As far as transfer fees the only one publicly confirmed was for Connor Taylor? There's zero evidence the new owners have injected any extra money into the club at present, although Horfield's claiming the deals still to be fully completed which could be an explanation. Have you wondered if Horfield is just trying to plant a seed of doubt? |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 10, 2023 8:23:19 GMT
Baggins is possibly just looking for a nibble. If the year goes by, plans come out for the site from Conygar and there is no Stadium, then yes I would also be onboard with your worries. The window just gone how many signings did we actually pay cash for. Must have been a handful? Usually we would pick up nearly all free transfers. They have/are replacing thes south stand with something not so temporary. But it clearly not a long term solution. But it has cost money. Just all getting a little bit disrespectful on here I just have a feeling the FM won't happen. Not because of lack of funding on our part but mainly due to things such as planning, actual lack of development in the area, time already taken to get to what, no where? It's just all taking too long to even consider it anymore. Arent Conygar going to be running with all that though? Surely we are a party saying yes, we want a stadium?! As Conygar investment in the area was only confirmed a few months ago, isn't it too early to write off that nothing is going to happen there. |
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Post by Gassy on Sept 10, 2023 8:34:34 GMT
Just so I’ve got this right:
1. The new owners sabotaged the JCH deal because they don’t have any money
2. The new owners will sabotage the FM because they have no money
3. The new owners are probably sabotaging the south stand because they have no money to pay off the loan
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Post by baggins on Sept 10, 2023 8:35:49 GMT
I just have a feeling the FM won't happen. Not because of lack of funding on our part but mainly due to things such as planning, actual lack of development in the area, time already taken to get to what, no where? It's just all taking too long to even consider it anymore. Arent Conygar going to be running with all that though? Surely we are a party saying yes, we want a stadium?! As Conygar investment in the area was only confirmed a few months ago, isn't it too early to write off that nothing is going to happen there. Possibly. Maybe I'm too used to things not going our way regarding Stadium build? Avonmouth, Mangotsfield, UWE, it hasn't exactly gone very well has it? |
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Post by phillistine on Sept 10, 2023 8:40:29 GMT
I've zero interest where it came from, I'd just like to be confident that the new owners have the finances to deliver the FM, the lack of anything supporting that on the intranet and the JCH deal collapsing does make you wonder if they do. Don't forget Baggins is continually posting the FM won't happen, so it seems they've no confidence that the new owners have the finances to fund a Stadium. Alright, chill out Sam Smith! 😄 They won't be funding the stadium anyway. This'll be an in/out relationship. Football doesn't make money for owners, only investors with a plan and exit strategy. I would be amazed if these guys have flown in to throw tens of millions at a construction project for some 3rd rate sh**ty ⚽️ club, with no hope of getting the cash back in the short term. When are people going to stop being so short sighted? The English Premier League is a huge business - some owners see it as an investment and for others it seems to be a vanity project . Regardless of why they want clubs- the reality is that there are only 21 clubs available to potential buyers but the beauty of course is that with promotion and relegation new clubs can suddenly join in the party and so surprise surprise people look at clubs with potential. Any potential investor wants his/ her/ their money to perform well and so investing in a " shxxty club" that has huge potential is worth a punt. BRFC are potentially just 2 years from being in the Premier League and even if they remain in the Memorial Stadium with crowds of less that 9000 - they could still be a goldmine for the right investor. Luton will be transformed - even if they fail to win a single game!! Brentford and Bournemouth have already show that it can be done and Brighton were playing at Gillingham whilst we were at Twerton. The stadium and the attendances are less important the higher up the ladder you go. |
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 10, 2023 9:16:59 GMT
Alright, chill out Sam Smith! 😄 They won't be funding the stadium anyway. This'll be an in/out relationship. Football doesn't make money for owners, only investors with a plan and exit strategy. I would be amazed if these guys have flown in to throw tens of millions at a construction project for some 3rd rate sh**ty ⚽️ club, with no hope of getting the cash back in the short term. When are people going to stop being so short sighted? The English Premier League is a huge business - some owners see it as an investment and for others it seems to be a vanity project . Regardless of why they want clubs- the reality is that there are only 21 clubs available to potential buyers but the beauty of course is that with promotion and relegation new clubs can suddenly join in the party and so surprise surprise people look at clubs with potential. Any potential investor wants his/ her/ their money to perform well and so investing in a " shxxty club" that has huge potential is worth a punt. BRFC are potentially just 2 years from being in the Premier League and even if they remain in the Memorial Stadium with crowds of less that 9000 - they could still be a goldmine for the right investor. Luton will be transformed - even if they fail to win a single game!! Brentford and Bournemouth have already show that it can be done and Brighton were playing at Gillingham whilst we were at Twerton. The stadium and the attendances are less important the higher up the ladder you go. I'm sorry, are you agreeing or not? You reckon this chap has put 20m in to spend on the squad? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 10, 2023 9:37:10 GMT
Alright, chill out Sam Smith! 😄 They won't be funding the stadium anyway. This'll be an in/out relationship. Football doesn't make money for owners, only investors with a plan and exit strategy. I would be amazed if these guys have flown in to throw tens of millions at a construction project for some 3rd rate sh**ty ⚽️ club, with no hope of getting the cash back in the short term. When are people going to stop being so short sighted? The English Premier League is a huge business - some owners see it as an investment and for others it seems to be a vanity project . Regardless of why they want clubs- the reality is that there are only 21 clubs available to potential buyers but the beauty of course is that with promotion and relegation new clubs can suddenly join in the party and so surprise surprise people look at clubs with potential. Any potential investor wants his/ her/ their money to perform well and so investing in a " shxxty club" that has huge potential is worth a punt. BRFC are potentially just 2 years from being in the Premier League and even if they remain in the Memorial Stadium with crowds of less that 9000 - they could still be a goldmine for the right investor. Luton will be transformed - even if they fail to win a single game!! Brentford and Bournemouth have already show that it can be done and Brighton were playing at Gillingham whilst we were at Twerton. The stadium and the attendances are less important the higher up the ladder you go. If Rovers are such a potential goldmine why were there only two parties apparently interested in investing in the club? For Rovers to become the next Luton or Brentford somebody needs to throw £100m at the club, that's a massive gamble just to get a similar return if it pays off. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 10, 2023 9:44:40 GMT
I just have a feeling the FM won't happen. Not because of lack of funding on our part but mainly due to things such as planning, actual lack of development in the area, time already taken to get to what, no where? It's just all taking too long to even consider it anymore. Arent Conygar going to be running with all that though? Surely we are a party saying yes, we want a stadium?! As Conygar investment in the area was only confirmed a few months ago, isn't it too early to write off that nothing is going to happen there. I assume sometime this year Rovers will have to contractually agree funding of the stadium if they expect CI to submit their stadium plans, lets see if they do or whether we get another JCH last minute hitch. |
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 10, 2023 10:01:03 GMT
Arent Conygar going to be running with all that though? Surely we are a party saying yes, we want a stadium?! As Conygar investment in the area was only confirmed a few months ago, isn't it too early to write off that nothing is going to happen there. I assume sometime this year Rovers will have to contractually agree funding of the stadium if they expect CI to submit their stadium plans, lets see if they do or whether we get another JCH last minute hitch. That is the perfect assumption and the lifeblood of this forum. Contractually agree funding of the stadium eh..🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2023 10:02:11 GMT
I've zero interest where it came from, I'd just like to be confident that the new owners have the finances to deliver the FM, the lack of anything supporting that on the intranet and the JCH deal collapsing does make you wonder if they do. Don't forget Baggins is continually posting the FM won't happen, so it seems they've no confidence that the new owners have the finances to fund a Stadium. Wasn't it said that the stadium would be built by Conygar and rented by Rovers. Allowing the new owners to spend on the squad and other areas or was that a dream? |
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