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Post by Sir Trevor on Sept 4, 2023 13:37:18 GMT
Will Mark Kennedy help The Imps to succeed?
Does the direct football style lead to promotion?
SOME INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE 23/24 IMPS.
In their games so far their possession stats are:
35 * 29 * 29 * 42 * 53 * 35 * 30 * 30 * per cent.
They are unbeaten in their last 7 games and have conceded only 3 goals in that spell.
In their match against us on Saturday SIX of the starting team were new to the club. The height of these players was:
6'2" * 6'3" * 5'10" * 6'2" * 6'3" * 6'6" *
The FIVE smallest players on the pitch were in the Bristol Rovers team.
It is no wonder they specialise in long throw-ins from all angles.
Josh Grant's headed goal is surprising in the circumstances.
Should we copy their approach?
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Post by yattongas on Sept 4, 2023 13:44:15 GMT
Will Mark Kennedy help The Imps to succeed? Does the direct football style lead to promotion? SOME INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE 23/24 IMPS. In their games so far their possession stats are: 35 * 29 * 29 * 42 * 53 * 35 * 30 * 30 * per cent. They are unbeaten in their last 7 games and have conceded only 3 goals in that spell. In their match against us on Saturday SIX of the starting team were new to the club. The height of these players was: 6'2" * 6'3" * 5'10" * 6'2" * 6'3" * 6'6" * The FIVE smallest players on the pitch were in the Bristol Rovers team. It is no wonder they specialise in long throw-ins from all angles. Josh Grant's headed goal is surprising in the circumstances. Should we copy their approach? No . That style of play won’t get you anywhere in the championship and that’s obviously the aim. Whilst we might be struggling for results at the moment I think ultimately it’ll prove successful. I could be wrong 🤨!
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Post by oldie on Sept 4, 2023 13:49:25 GMT
Will Mark Kennedy help The Imps to succeed? Does the direct football style lead to promotion? SOME INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE 23/24 IMPS. In their games so far their possession stats are: 35 * 29 * 29 * 42 * 53 * 35 * 30 * 30 * per cent. They are unbeaten in their last 7 games and have conceded only 3 goals in that spell. In their match against us on Saturday SIX of the starting team were new to the club. The height of these players was: 6'2" * 6'3" * 5'10" * 6'2" * 6'3" * 6'6" * The FIVE smallest players on the pitch were in the Bristol Rovers team. It is no wonder they specialise in long throw-ins from all angles. Josh Grant's headed goal is surprising in the circumstances. Should we copy their approach? No . That style of play won’t get you anywhere in the championship and that’s obviously the aim. Whilst we might be struggling for results at the moment I think ultimately it’ll prove successful. I could be wrong 🤨! I thought they were awful. But we couldn't beat them, at home.
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Post by yattongas on Sept 4, 2023 13:53:55 GMT
No . That style of play won’t get you anywhere in the championship and that’s obviously the aim. Whilst we might be struggling for results at the moment I think ultimately it’ll prove successful. I could be wrong 🤨! I thought they were awful. But we couldn't beat them, at home. They might be awful but you can’t argue that they get results. Think we need to try a few more potshots and hope the keeper fumbles or a big deflection! 😂 You don’t shoot , you don’t score.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2023 13:57:46 GMT
Get the keeper to release the ball quicker and that might help
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 4, 2023 14:04:03 GMT
I agree with regards I do not want to see that type of football at the gas. With regards it not succeeding in the champ that's almost correct but Luton bucked the trend last year. They played direct aggressive, hig intensity football and got promotion.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Sept 4, 2023 14:05:43 GMT
Think both thier main strikers were injured when they played us? Might of been a different game if they had played.
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Post by yattongas on Sept 4, 2023 14:07:48 GMT
I agree with regards I do not want to see that type of football at the gas. With regards it not succeeding in the champ that's almost correct but Luton bucked the trend last year. They played direct aggressive, hig intensity football and got promotion. Didn’t watch too much of Luton last season but the little I did ( highlights) they looked to be on the front foot a lot .
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Post by gaelgas on Sept 4, 2023 14:11:40 GMT
Will Mark Kennedy help The Imps to succeed? Does the direct football style lead to promotion? SOME INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE 23/24 IMPS. In their games so far their possession stats are: 35 * 29 * 29 * 42 * 53 * 35 * 30 * 30 * per cent. They are unbeaten in their last 7 games and have conceded only 3 goals in that spell. In their match against us on Saturday SIX of the starting team were new to the club. The height of these players was: 6'2" * 6'3" * 5'10" * 6'2" * 6'3" * 6'6" * The FIVE smallest players on the pitch were in the Bristol Rovers team. It is no wonder they specialise in long throw-ins from all angles. Josh Grant's headed goal is surprising in the circumstances. Should we copy their approach? Didn't we have that under Coughlan, no doubt it was successful but crowds were poor despite the success and no one thought it would continue, I seem to remember everyone thinking the bubble would burst at some point, and we had JCH.
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Post by kruger on Sept 4, 2023 14:20:10 GMT
Ask yourselves, would you want to watch that week in week out, I know ai wouldn't
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Sept 4, 2023 14:30:52 GMT
The teams that get promoted can mix it up a bit, can play but be direct and aggressive when they need to. Often the best footballing sides fall short. Personally would like us to still move the ball around but be stronger and more aggressive, we seem to have no aim other than to knock the ball around like a training session.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2023 14:33:01 GMT
Get the keeper to release the ball quicker and that might help If the players looked for the ball and created some space ahead of him that would be a good shout.
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Post by Quarters on Sept 4, 2023 14:41:29 GMT
Get the keeper to release the ball quicker and that might help If the players looked for the ball and created some space ahead of him that would be a good shout. Does he mean lump the ball down pitch when no one is there.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 4, 2023 14:48:06 GMT
Get the keeper to release the ball quicker and that might help If the players looked for the ball and created some space ahead of him that would be a good shout. That seems easy said than done, players like JCH and even Coburn create space for other players by taking defenders out of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2023 14:57:11 GMT
If the players looked for the ball and created some space ahead of him that would be a good shout. That seems easy said than done, players like JCH and even Coburn create space for other players by taking defenders out of the game. Sorry I don't mean to be rude genuinely - Do you go to the games ? Against Cambridge, Wycombe and now Lincoln some of our players are crazy slow not just in our build up but also when we get counter attacked - they literally get over taken by the opposition keener to get to the ball. On Saturday Only a handful seem to be really mobile - Thomas , Woods , Friend, Collins in the first half and Hunt all were looking for the ball and making runs. Others just seemed to slow - Bogarde and Finley especially - maybe it's me but I didn't see the real urgency as much as I would have liked.
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Post by tbonegas on Sept 4, 2023 15:44:19 GMT
Will Mark Kennedy help The Imps to succeed? Does the direct football style lead to promotion? SOME INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE 23/24 IMPS. In their games so far their possession stats are: 35 * 29 * 29 * 42 * 53 * 35 * 30 * 30 * per cent. They are unbeaten in their last 7 games and have conceded only 3 goals in that spell. In their match against us on Saturday SIX of the starting team were new to the club. The height of these players was: 6'2" * 6'3" * 5'10" * 6'2" * 6'3" * 6'6" * The FIVE smallest players on the pitch were in the Bristol Rovers team. It is no wonder they specialise in long throw-ins from all angles. Josh Grant's headed goal is surprising in the circumstances. Should we copy their approach? Copy their approach? We haven't had a long throw expert since Vaughan Jones retired. Disley threw a long ball once and I think Gibson attempted a few last season. Sadly even if we had someone to do the job, we don't have one single player that attacks the ball in the opposing box on a regular basis.
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Post by xenongas on Sept 4, 2023 16:01:46 GMT
The teams that get promoted can mix it up a bit, can play but be direct and aggressive when they need to. Often the best footballing sides fall short. Personally would like us to still move the ball around but be stronger and more aggressive, we seem to have no aim other than to knock the ball around like a training session. That's the frustration at the moment. We have a plan A which I like (does take a little patience which is in short supply on the terrace) but when you've got a team happy to sit in and play for the away point we run out of ideas quickly. Any sort of ball in behind or wrestle with their centre backs will give the defenders something else to think about and will create a bit more space for the way Barton wants us to play. I'm fully on board for this seasons team and how they play generally and I have faith it'll click when the forward line get on a streak. Definitely not worthy of the moan fest where I stand at the moment. But it does need a tweak so the opposition can't implement their game plan so easily.
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Post by phillistine on Sept 4, 2023 16:20:38 GMT
Will Mark Kennedy help The Imps to succeed? Does the direct football style lead to promotion? SOME INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE 23/24 IMPS. In their games so far their possession stats are: 35 * 29 * 29 * 42 * 53 * 35 * 30 * 30 * per cent. They are unbeaten in their last 7 games and have conceded only 3 goals in that spell. In their match against us on Saturday SIX of the starting team were new to the club. The height of these players was: 6'2" * 6'3" * 5'10" * 6'2" * 6'3" * 6'6" * The FIVE smallest players on the pitch were in the Bristol Rovers team. It is no wonder they specialise in long throw-ins from all angles. Josh Grant's headed goal is surprising in the circumstances. Should we copy their approach? I thought that Lincoln , like Cambridge and Wycombe they were a team of individuals playing an effective game plan but without any real flair or style. For most of the game they played 5 across the back which only changed at the beginning of the second half when they came out of the box quickly - but as soon as the scored they played 4 in front of a back5 and simply relied on breakouts to pose a threat. Ferguson in a recent interview said that playing pretty football does not win this League and he is changing the way that Posh play and signing younger players who will have less flair but more discipline . The reality is that we have yet to play a team who came close to us in terms of man for man skill level but they all play as teams with defensive priorities and know exactly what is expected of them in the way that Gerry Francis teams used to play. JB sets up to attack but until he works out how we overcome the defensive blocks that face us every game - we are going to continue to struggle .
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 4, 2023 17:14:13 GMT
That seems easy said than done, players like JCH and even Coburn create space for other players by taking defenders out of the game. Sorry I don't mean to be rude genuinely - Do you go to the games ? Against Cambridge, Wycombe and now Lincoln some of our players are crazy slow not just in our build up but also when we get counter attacked - they literally get over taken by the opposition keener to get to the ball. On Saturday Only a handful seem to be really mobile - Thomas , Woods , Friend, Collins in the first half and Hunt all were looking for the ball and making runs. Others just seemed to slow - Bogarde and Finley especially - maybe it's me but I didn't see the real urgency as much as I would have liked. I'll ignore the unnecessary dig as I assume it's pretty obvious from my posts that I regularly attend games, if not, then I do a lot of needless moaning about season tickets etc. JB played Finley and Bogarde as holding CM's, do you really expect them to be darting forward to try and get on the end of passes. If they did then you'd be the first to moan that Finley had been caught out of position.
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Post by gulfofaden on Sept 4, 2023 17:29:18 GMT
I understand the importance of having a plan B and I dearly wanted JCH as he was the missing puzzle piece.
However, Plymouth seemed last year to be a team who played very similarly to us. I can recall Sunderland being similar.
Teams do get out of this league playing as we do.
We are so in control of games, I feel it’s only a matter of time before things start to click upfront.
The issue is today that we do not have any option for a plan B. We don’t have the players.
Anthony Evans is a bigger lad than we give him credit for and I think that if we can make a plan B, it will involve Marquis and Evans in the top end of the pitch.
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