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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 27, 2023 10:07:25 GMT
I think a large proportion prefer to not boast about their donations but each to their own I missed the boasting , do you have a link? I was replying to Tilly and was writing in general |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 27, 2023 14:40:34 GMT
Or he just did it for a limited amount of time to raise money for Nick? It's possible to overthink these things. Then he could have simply just made that clear, simple enough. People have been saying the BBC have not been reporting on us, could be tit for tat, we will see Why would the BBC stop reporting on Rovers just because JB had put his own personal X/Twitter account behind a pay wall? |
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Post by Quarters on Sept 27, 2023 14:53:37 GMT
Then he could have simply just made that clear, simple enough. People have been saying the BBC have not been reporting on us, could be tit for tat, we will see Why would the BBC stop reporting on Rovers just because JB had put his own personal X/Twitter account behind a pay wall? Someone confused between Bristol Live and BBC? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 27, 2023 15:38:59 GMT
BL are still reporting on Rovers, so I've no idea what KP's talking about, I wonder if he even he knows, it's just more negative nonsense from him.
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Post by gasify on Sept 27, 2023 17:27:49 GMT
Had to ask grandchildren what your reply meant, so glad my post made you happy if not a little bemused as to why, sorry it caused you to have an embarrassing personal episode, i believe you can purchase items at the chemist to ease your discomfort and embarrassment. Everyday is an education |
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Post by gasify on Sept 27, 2023 17:31:50 GMT
That was my first thought when he announced it was for Nick. How much did he raise? How was that given to Nick? Do we get to see one of those big cheques? Non of your business is it - JB knew NA a lot better than you, me and anyone else on this forum and I am sure he is doing his best for him. Why is it non of my business? If someone shouts loudly about their donations to charity, then we should be able to ask the question. |
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Post by percy on Sept 27, 2023 17:47:17 GMT
Non of your business is it - JB knew NA a lot better than you, me and anyone else on this forum and I am sure he is doing his best for him. Why is it non of my business? If someone shouts loudly about their donations to charity, then we should be able to ask the question. Of course. Anyone that subscribed deserves to know. If it was a private donation then that is different. Some people just love to make a comment without thinking it through as it’s from someone they disagree with |
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Post by gasify on Sept 27, 2023 17:50:36 GMT
Maybe Nick Anderton prefers the fund raising to be kept low key, hence JB firstly referring vaguely to "a cherity" as the beneficiary? Not everybody feels the need to shout about what they've done/how much money they've raised, from the rooftops. I don't find it in the least embarassing to raise money for somebody who finds themselves in Nick's position. I completely understand your point here and in normal circumstances, you would be bang on correct. However, this article is completely at odds with the comment: www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/23251478.joey-bartons-generous-donation-fundraiser-nick-anderton/From Nick Andertons perspective that he feels bad about being a beneficiary: "The Bristol Rovers manager's generous contribution has helped take the appeal past the £23,000 mark." From JB perspective of not wanting to shout about how much he has donated: "Joey Barton has donated £1,000 to a fundraiser for former Carlisle United captain Nick Anderton as he battles cancer." So, both points you make haven't really been adhered to previously, so why now? Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that NA doesn't deserve the help and support that is being provided. I was shocked when it was revealed that he wasn't insured for this type of thing by the club (I think that is pretty negligent by Rovers, but on another thread!" When JB himself said: "I will donate a considerable amount of the earnings to a designated charity of my choice." If he had just said: "I will donate a considerable amount of the earnings to Nick Anderton." I don't think we would be having this conversation. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 27, 2023 17:56:17 GMT
Why is it non of my business? If someone shouts loudly about their donations to charity, then we should be able to ask the question. Of course. Anyone that subscribed deserves to know. If it was a private donation then that is different. Some people just love to make a comment without thinking it through as it’s from someone they disagree with I assume it was/it will be a private donation between JB & NA rather than done in public with a big fanfare? IF JB says he gave £1,000 or £100,000 does it really matter as I doubt many followers subscribed because some of the money was going to NA. I didn't agree with the subs service but demanding to know what money is being given to NA just seems another witch hunt against JB and will know doubt be forgotten as soon as something more interesting appears. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 27, 2023 18:00:13 GMT
Maybe Nick Anderton prefers the fund raising to be kept low key, hence JB firstly referring vaguely to "a cherity" as the beneficiary? Not everybody feels the need to shout about what they've done/how much money they've raised, from the rooftops. I don't find it in the least embarassing to raise money for somebody who finds themselves in Nick's position. I completely understand your point here and in normal circumstances, you would be bang on correct. However, this article is completely at odds with the comment: www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/23251478.joey-bartons-generous-donation-fundraiser-nick-anderton/From Nick Andertons perspective that he feels bad about being a beneficiary: "The Bristol Rovers manager's generous contribution has helped take the appeal past the £23,000 mark." From JB perspective of not wanting to shout about how much he has donated: "Joey Barton has donated £1,000 to a fundraiser for former Carlisle United captain Nick Anderton as he battles cancer." So, both points you make haven't really been adhered to previously, so why now? Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that NA doesn't deserve the help and support that is being provided. I was shocked when it was revealed that he wasn't insured for this type of thing by the club ( I think that is pretty negligent by Rovers, but on another thread!" When JB himself said: "I will donate a considerable amount of the earnings to a designated charity of my choice." If he had just said: "I will donate a considerable amount of the earnings to Nick Anderton." I don't think we would be having this conversation. I can't see Rovers, or any club for that matter, as a duty to insure for a players future loss of earnings due to ill health, being effectively self employed that really is something each player needs to arrange. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 27, 2023 18:02:48 GMT
I completely understand your point here and in normal circumstances, you would be bang on correct. However, this article is completely at odds with the comment: www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/23251478.joey-bartons-generous-donation-fundraiser-nick-anderton/From Nick Andertons perspective that he feels bad about being a beneficiary: "The Bristol Rovers manager's generous contribution has helped take the appeal past the £23,000 mark." From JB perspective of not wanting to shout about how much he has donated: "Joey Barton has donated £1,000 to a fundraiser for former Carlisle United captain Nick Anderton as he battles cancer." So, both points you make haven't really been adhered to previously, so why now? Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that NA doesn't deserve the help and support that is being provided. I was shocked when it was revealed that he wasn't insured for this type of thing by the club ( I think that is pretty negligent by Rovers, but on another thread!" When JB himself said: "I will donate a considerable amount of the earnings to a designated charity of my choice." If he had just said: "I will donate a considerable amount of the earnings to Nick Anderton." I don't think we would be having this conversation. I can't see Rovers, or any club for that matter, as a duty to insure for a players future loss of earnings due to ill health, being effectively self employed that really is something each player needs to arrange. I agree, I certainly wouldn't have thought that lower league clubs would have players insured to that extent. |
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Post by percy on Sept 27, 2023 18:14:43 GMT
Of course. Anyone that subscribed deserves to know. If it was a private donation then that is different. Some people just love to make a comment without thinking it through as it’s from someone they disagree with I assume it was/it will be a private donation between JB & NA rather than done in public with a big fanfare? IF JB says he gave £1,000 or £100,000 does it really matter as I doubt many followers subscribed because some of the money was going to NA. I didn't agree with the subs service but demanding to know what money is being given to NA just seems another witch hunt against JB and will know doubt be forgotten as soon as something more interesting appears. Schrödinger's Donation. It’s both the reason why it’s perfectly fine and none of anyone’s business. I really don’t care. I’m on neither side of the Joey argument just calling out inconsistencies. |
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Post by gasify on Sept 27, 2023 19:29:24 GMT
I can't see Rovers, or any club for that matter, as a duty to insure for a players future loss of earnings due to ill health, being effectively self employed that really is something each player needs to arrange. I agree, I certainly wouldn't have thought that lower league clubs would have players insured to that extent. They didn't even insure themselves against him getting such an injury. |
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Post by gasify on Sept 27, 2023 19:36:17 GMT
I can't see Rovers, or any club for that matter, as a duty to insure for a players future loss of earnings due to ill health, being effectively self employed that really is something each player needs to arrange. I agree, I certainly wouldn't have thought that lower league clubs would have players insured to that extent. Why not? Businesses have something called Key Man insurance. Like this: www.legalandgeneral.com/insurance/business-protection/key-person-insurance/Surely Rovers should be protecting themselves? |
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Post by The Equaliser on Sept 27, 2023 19:39:08 GMT
I agree, I certainly wouldn't have thought that lower league clubs would have players insured to that extent. They didn't even insure themselves against him getting such an injury. How do you know this? |
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Post by gasify on Sept 27, 2023 19:40:02 GMT
They didn't even insure themselves against him getting such an injury. How do you know this? Wael said it on having a gas (I think). |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 27, 2023 20:02:54 GMT
Wael said it on having a gas (I think). I thought the reference was to NA not being insured for future loss of earnings not the club, I'm not sure how the club arrange their own insurance is really our concern. |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Sept 27, 2023 20:23:02 GMT
Non of your business is it - JB knew NA a lot better than you, me and anyone else on this forum and I am sure he is doing his best for him. Why is it non of my business? If someone shouts loudly about their donations to charity, then we should be able to ask the question. We are not only you. If you want to know that badly message him yourself |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 20:26:14 GMT
I agree, I certainly wouldn't have thought that lower league clubs would have players insured to that extent. They didn't even insure themselves against him getting such an injury. maybe just maybe this club is not for you? |
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Post by gasify on Sept 27, 2023 20:28:20 GMT
Wael said it on having a gas (I think). I thought the reference was to NA not being insured for future loss of earnings not the club, I'm not sure how the club arrange their own insurance is really our concern. You say that about everything at the club though. I'm not sure how the club arrange their own stand building is really our concern. I'm not sure how the club arrange their own transfers is really our concern. I'm not sure how the club arrange their own investors is really our concern. I'm not sure how the club arrange their own management is really our concern. I'm not sure how the club arrange their own accountability is really our concern. You are of course correct if we see the club as a business that is privately owned and run for the benefit of the owner. However, this is a Football club and rightly or wrongly (probably more wrongly) we see ourselves as more than just customers. We see ourselves as part of the machine that is Bristol Rovers. |
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