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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 29, 2023 11:42:06 GMT
It made local news and IF you bothered to look then you’d see. I can’t be arsed when you so obviously don’t look yourself Think you're confused. Bristol Post/Bristol Live...Joey no speaky. BBC...Joey pow wow. Correct, i got it wrong. I thought it was the beeb.. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Sept 29, 2023 11:43:54 GMT
The answer isn't strange. If I had said it was on a website, it would be very easy to post a link. As I said it was on having a gas. It is very difficult to go and research each episode he was on and then listen to it. I haven't got the time for that. So my comment was to highlight the unreasonable request. I don't believe Wael ever suggested players weren't insured by the club but it was suggested that NA didn't have his own personal insurance to cover for future loss of earnings. Given your making a strong accusation about the club then it's really down to you to prove what you're alleging, or withdraw the accusation. Spot on topper, only ever been said on several occasions that NA did not have any personal insurance. Our owner has never to my knowledge , to have made the statement that is being claimed |
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Post by phillistine on Sept 29, 2023 12:07:14 GMT
The PFA used to offer optional pension and insurance arrangements for their members and it is up to the individual if he/she takes them out. It was never arranged by the club they played for as players move around a lot during their careers and policies would be chopping and changing if the clubs arranged the covers.
i say used to simply because my knowledge goes back a few years. it is the same as you and i taking mortgage protection - critical illness cover. We do not ask our employers to do that .
It is true that keyman cover exists but this protects the business if any of their own key employees are ill and unable to work. For example maybe a new person will need to be employed whilst the |CEO is off work recovering from a heart attack. its not designed for employees who as i said earlier should insure themselves.
Years ago Rovers did cover players for their " value" on the transfer market following career restricting illnesses or injuries but that was the loss of an " asset" value and the money did not go to the player. It became ridiculously expensive and i think that it got ditched. That was during a previous regime and things may have changed
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Post by The Equaliser on Sept 29, 2023 12:23:41 GMT
Ok, so your hearsay says our manager doesn’t talk to the BBC, however if you listen to the radio he actually does gives interviews to the BBC. I’m not really sure why you are pedalling this tbh. It made local news and IF you bothered to look then you’d see. I can’t be arsed when you so obviously don’t look yourself It really didn’t. You’re making yourself look silly now. |
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Post by gasify on Sept 29, 2023 13:22:16 GMT
Barton ran the Manchester Marathon to raise money for Nick Anderton and he didn’t make a big song and dance about it. I’m not his biggest fan but questioning his motives on this is below the belt, in my opinion. I’m very proud of what the club and Barton have done in the wake of Nick’s diagnosis and I think they have got the tone right in terms of respect for Nick and his privacy and also showing publicly the support we are giving him. Um.. Yes he did: www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-boss-joey-barton-8368335 |
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Post by gasify on Sept 29, 2023 13:30:18 GMT
Can you listen to each interview with Wael and then tell me he didn't say it? The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. Hugo, you got me thinking. There are many people on here that are far smarter than I am. Looking for someone who knows about company accounts. If Nick Anderton was insured and a claim against that policy made, would there be a note on the accounts? Either somewhere in income or a note to say "Included in revenue is £xxx of an insurance claim"? I can't see anything in the 2022 accounts, there might be something in 2023 but they are not available yet. However, I withdraw my application to strike my comment from record your honour. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 14:06:13 GMT
Barton ran the Manchester Marathon to raise money for Nick Anderton and he didn’t make a big song and dance about it. I’m not his biggest fan but questioning his motives on this is below the belt, in my opinion. I’m very proud of what the club and Barton have done in the wake of Nick’s diagnosis and I think they have got the tone right in terms of respect for Nick and his privacy and also showing publicly the support we are giving him. Um.. Yes he did: www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-boss-joey-barton-8368335your passion of finding a negative out of every positive around the club shows no sign of abatting.what a existence |
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Post by DrFaustus on Sept 29, 2023 14:49:32 GMT
your passion of finding a negative out of every positive around the club shows no sign of abatting.what a existence Hardly Joey making a song and dance about it either. He was answering questions from a "journalist". |
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Post by gasify on Sept 29, 2023 17:03:08 GMT
your passion of finding a negative out of every positive around the club shows no sign of abatting.what a existence *Takes a bow* |
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Post by onefindunford on Sept 29, 2023 17:12:56 GMT
Barton ran the Manchester Marathon to raise money for Nick Anderton and he didn’t make a big song and dance about it. I’m not his biggest fan but questioning his motives on this is below the belt, in my opinion. I’m very proud of what the club and Barton have done in the wake of Nick’s diagnosis and I think they have got the tone right in terms of respect for Nick and his privacy and also showing publicly the support we are giving him. Um.. Yes he did: www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-boss-joey-barton-8368335Thanks for providing the link, which shows he didn’t “make a big song and dance about it”. UTG |
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Post by gasify on Sept 30, 2023 7:50:03 GMT
Thanks for providing the link, which shows he didn’t “make a big song and dance about it”. UTG Doing an interview about it is not making a song and dance? We have different definitions of song and dance. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Sept 30, 2023 8:52:12 GMT
Thanks for providing the link, which shows he didn’t “make a big song and dance about it”. UTG Doing an interview about it is not making a song and dance? We have different definitions of song and dance. Are you Topper's wife? Only, you seem to delight in arguing about minutiae for no discernible reason. 🏴☠️ |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 30, 2023 9:25:31 GMT
The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. Hugo, you got me thinking. There are many people on here that are far smarter than I am. Looking for someone who knows about company accounts. If Nick Anderton was insured and a claim against that policy made, would there be a note on the accounts? Either somewhere in income or a note to say "Included in revenue is £xxx of an insurance claim"? I can't see anything in the 2022 accounts, there might be something in 2023 but they are not available yet. However, I withdraw my application to strike my comment from record your honour. I've no idea. You are still asking others to find the evidence of a claim you made. I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't know if you are wrong or right. All I know is that you've made a claim and not backed it up. If I claim I can fly the first thing anyone should say is "show me". I cannot then just say, "prove I can't". That's not how life works. |
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Post by gasify on Sept 30, 2023 12:05:06 GMT
Doing an interview about it is not making a song and dance? We have different definitions of song and dance. Only, you seem to delight in arguing about minutiae for no discernible reason. 🏴☠️ Why attack the poster? |
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Post by gasify on Sept 30, 2023 12:06:45 GMT
Hugo, you got me thinking. There are many people on here that are far smarter than I am. Looking for someone who knows about company accounts. If Nick Anderton was insured and a claim against that policy made, would there be a note on the accounts? Either somewhere in income or a note to say "Included in revenue is £xxx of an insurance claim"? I can't see anything in the 2022 accounts, there might be something in 2023 but they are not available yet. However, I withdraw my application to strike my comment from record your honour. I've no idea. You are still asking others to find the evidence of a claim you made. I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't know if you are wrong or right. All I know is that you've made a claim and not backed it up. If I claim I can fly the first thing anyone should say is "show me". I cannot then just say, "prove I can't". That's not how life works. Ok. Then. There is no mention of an insurance claim in the accounts to June 2022. If there was a claim. It would have been declared as a note to the accounts. My point is proved. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 30, 2023 13:11:11 GMT
I've no idea. You are still asking others to find the evidence of a claim you made. I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't know if you are wrong or right. All I know is that you've made a claim and not backed it up. If I claim I can fly the first thing anyone should say is "show me". I cannot then just say, "prove I can't". That's not how life works. Ok. Then. There is no mention of an insurance claim in the accounts to June 2022. If there was a claim. It would have been declared as a note to the accounts. My point is proved. Problem is I'm not sure our accounts are that detailed. Both timings (was a claim made and settled in the period in question or split across accounting periods) and general inclusion in the wider accounts could mask it. Not convinced we can draw a conclusion either way. |
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Post by onefindunford on Sept 30, 2023 13:33:47 GMT
Thanks for providing the link, which shows he didn’t “make a big song and dance about it”. UTG Doing an interview about it is not making a song and dance? We have different definitions of song and dance. He was interviewed by a journalist and answered a few questions. There is nowhere in that article that shows he made a song and dance about it. |
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Post by gasify on Sept 30, 2023 13:51:52 GMT
Ok. Then. There is no mention of an insurance claim in the accounts to June 2022. If there was a claim. It would have been declared as a note to the accounts. My point is proved. Problem is I'm not sure our accounts are that detailed. Both timings (was a claim made and settled in the period in question or split across accounting periods) and general inclusion in the wider accounts could mask it. Not convinced we can draw a conclusion either way. We will have to wait and see if there is a disclosure in the 2023 accounts. The detail of the audited accounts is sufficient to identify any Insurance payout on a player career ending injury. The insurance payout shouldn't be included in the wider accounts as its not a trading revenue stream. It would be identifiable. There would also be a note to explain the payout. These are small company accounts that have been audited by Old Mill Audit Limited based in Yeovil. The company did pay £16.5k for audits of the group accounts and subsidiary companies, so no reason to doubt their reports. |
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Post by gasify on Sept 30, 2023 13:58:06 GMT
Doing an interview about it is not making a song and dance? We have different definitions of song and dance. He was interviewed by a journalist and answered a few questions. There is nowhere in that article that shows he made a song and dance about it. That's where our definitions of 'Song and Dance' differ. My view is that by doing the interview about the marathon and raising funds for NA, he is inherently making a song and dance about it. If he wasn't making a song and dance about it, the article would simply be "JB does the Manchester marathon" without any need to mention that he was doing it for NA. |
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Post by eric on Sept 30, 2023 14:43:51 GMT
Doing an interview about it is not making a song and dance? We have different definitions of song and dance. He was interviewed by a journalist and answered a few questions. There is nowhere in that article that shows he made a song and dance about it. I’m sure for anyone who’s starting position is “I hate JB and nothing he does will change that” will have heard him making a song and dance about it !! |
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