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Post by gasify on Sept 30, 2023 22:57:39 GMT
Apologies, did you not say "attack the post" or some twee sh**e? OK then. I've not been captured or captivated by anyone and have a free mind. Thank you for your concern though. Have a lovely evening with yer Kleenex. 🏴☠️🤧 I think you have misunderstood. I was responding to the question posed, not suggesting in any way thatvyou had Stockholm syndrome. I was referring to the players coming back and praising JB. Is that was Stockholm syndrome does?
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Sept 30, 2023 22:58:53 GMT
I really don’t think what JB has said is that bad. From the highlights you can see LT has stopped and has contributed to the conceded goal. So if he is injured and he’s not said anything, then he’s letting his teammates down, his gaffer down and the fans down.
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Post by percy on Sept 30, 2023 23:19:19 GMT
I really don’t think what JB has said is that bad. From the highlights you can see LT has stopped and has contributed to the conceded goal. So if he is injured and he’s not said anything, then he’s letting his teammates down, his gaffer down and the fans down. Only one person has let the team and fans down today.
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Post by strads1983 on Sept 30, 2023 23:32:32 GMT
JB has every right to be annoyed if he thinks the player made a mistake playing on when he maybe should have come off, though what player hasn’t done the same while he still thinks he can contribute. What I have an issue with is Barton publicly shaming his players in the media. It doesn’t help anyone and frankly its embarrasing. Who’s it actually embarrassing for. Barton’s managerial future is always on the line, and if he’s going to be cheated by dishonest, over played average players then I find it all refreshing. Don’t get me wrong on a personal level I find it hard to like Barton, however, on a football management basis only, I think more managers should call out mediocre performances and bad decisions. Why are people offended by this? He clearly knows who to single out and who not to. Luke has publicly said how much he gets out of Barton being his manager and hence why he’s come back. Luke is more than a footballer, he’s clearly a young talented man with personal issues. If these issues are not dealt with head on, then it simply is not going to help him become a better person. Take it, learn from it, become a better person and player for it.
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 30, 2023 23:57:16 GMT
I really don’t think what JB has said is that bad. From the highlights you can see LT has stopped and has contributed to the conceded goal. So if he is injured and he’s not said anything, then he’s letting his teammates down, his gaffer down and the fans down. Only one person has let the team and fans down today. Yeh, sorry about that. 🫣
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Post by singupgas on Oct 1, 2023 0:07:16 GMT
JB has every right to be annoyed if he thinks the player made a mistake playing on when he maybe should have come off, though what player hasn’t done the same while he still thinks he can contribute. What I have an issue with is Barton publicly shaming his players in the media. It doesn’t help anyone and frankly its embarrasing. Who’s it actually embarrassing for. Barton’s managerial future is always on the line, and if he’s going to be cheated by dishonest, over played average players then I find it all refreshing. Don’t get me wrong on a personal level I find it hard to like Barton, however, on a football management basis only, I think more managers should call out mediocre performances and bad decisions. Why are people offended by this? He clearly knows who to single out and who not to. Luke has publicly said how much he gets out of Barton being his manager and hence why he’s come back. Luke is more than a footballer, he’s clearly a young talented man with personal issues. If these issues are not dealt with head on, then it simply is not going to help him become a better person. Take it, learn from it, become a better person and player for it. Yeah tend to agree with JB, but could have stopped after saying that LT admitted to feeling a strain late but decided to play - though could have argued JB should have been stronger to sub him. The whole talking to the CEO to try and fine LT was a bit far and silly. I just hope that after they calmed down that it is sorted and this doesn't roll on, as I've said I think LT has been one of the better players so far.
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Post by Goose on Oct 1, 2023 5:47:48 GMT
Just watched the highlights....
Whilst LT does stop, I don't really think he could have got back to have a meaningful affect on the attack anyway..
On JBs comments, he had done this so many times now, it is going to lose it's purpose and people will just start to say oh well there he goes again.
It's almost like he thinks we should be top six and he's done his bit, so it must be someone else's fault.... I don't think I've ever heard him put his hands up and say 'my fault, I was wrong'
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 1, 2023 6:44:01 GMT
Just watched the highlights.... Whilst JT does stop, I don't really think he could have got back to have a meaningful affect on the attack anyway.. On JBs comments, he had done this so many times now, it is going to lose it's purpose and people will just start to say oh well there he goes again. It's almost like he thinks we should be top six and he's done his bit, so it must be someone else's fault.... I don't think I've ever heard him put his hands up and say 'my fault, I was wrong' Like JB said, he shouldn't have been committing forwards if he was not feeling right. As predicted, many only see the RB getting skinned, the cross, the goal. Even within that there are bits of good and bad play. JB knows what he's talking about, his delivery after the match and about 1 player is a bit off. However he knows what each player should doing at each stage of a sequence, so if he is saying that LT is in the wrong for that goal, that's what it is. If that's come about because the player doesn't admit to a niggle at the end of HT and says it just as they are coming back out, that is poor from the player! Alot of chat goes on at HT in terms tactical adjustments, subs being warned off, instructions to cover or press, players being given minutes until a set time for legs, VO2 max or to wear down a particular opponent pre-sub. It also seems like there's more to it than just yesterday. Bring given chances and sorting himself out etc is deeper than a tight muscle..
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Post by oldie on Oct 1, 2023 6:55:56 GMT
Just watched the highlights.... Whilst JT does stop, I don't really think he could have got back to have a meaningful affect on the attack anyway.. On JBs comments, he had done this so many times now, it is going to lose it's purpose and people will just start to say oh well there he goes again. It's almost like he thinks we should be top six and he's done his bit, so it must be someone else's fault.... I don't think I've ever heard him put his hands up and say 'my fault, I was wrong' Like JB said, he shouldn't have been committing forwards if he was not feeling right. As predicted, many only see the RB getting skinned, the cross, the goal. Even within that there are bits of good and bad play. JB knows what he's talking about, his delivery after the match and about 1 player is a bit off. However he knows what each player should doing at each stage of a sequence, so if he is saying that LT is in the wrong for that goal, that's what it is. If that's come about because the player doesn't admit to a niggle at the end of HT and says it just as they are coming back out, that is poor from the player! Alot of chat goes on at HT in terms tactical adjustments, subs being warned off, instructions to cover or press, players being given minutes until a set time for legs, VO2 max or to wear down a particular opponent pre-sub. It also seems like there's more to it than just yesterday. Bring given chances and sorting himself out etc is deeper than a tight muscle.. If there are other issues then it calls into question the recruitment of Thomas and offering him a 3 year contract. It's only the end of September after all and I think the general consensus is that Thomas has been one of the better performers so far. This is all about Barton making stupid comments in public, again. I had hoped he had learned, apparently not.
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Post by Congas on Oct 1, 2023 6:57:09 GMT
"Unless we man up – and I know you have to be careful saying that in the modern era – and absolutely eradicate these weak, feeble-minded individuals that are currently inside our unit, we won’t get promoted out of this division."
Eradicate weak, feeble-minded individuals? Sounds a bit dictatorial to me
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Post by whitchurchgas on Oct 1, 2023 7:05:13 GMT
LT has arguably been one of our best players this year. As for chances and sorting his life out or however Barton spouted it, in pre season LT had done that, Sinclair taken him under his wing, getting after it in the gym according to Barton.
One big mistake on match day and players all make them at some point, and he’s pond scum.
As for the fine, what about our atrocious home form this calendar year? Maybe Barton should be fined.. results speak for themselves.
The man needs to pull his head out of his arse because I’d say he’s pretty damn average, not the messiah.
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Post by Gassy on Oct 1, 2023 7:23:30 GMT
Just watched the highlights.... Whilst JT does stop, I don't really think he could have got back to have a meaningful affect on the attack anyway.. On JBs comments, he had done this so many times now, it is going to lose it's purpose and people will just start to say oh well there he goes again. It's almost like he thinks we should be top six and he's done his bit, so it must be someone else's fault.... I don't think I've ever heard him put his hands up and say 'my fault, I was wrong' Like JB said, he shouldn't have been committing forwards if he was not feeling right. As predicted, many only see the RB getting skinned, the cross, the goal. Even within that there are bits of good and bad play. JB knows what he's talking about, his delivery after the match and about 1 player is a bit off. However he knows what each player should doing at each stage of a sequence, so if he is saying that LT is in the wrong for that goal, that's what it is. If that's come about because the player doesn't admit to a niggle at the end of HT and says it just as they are coming back out, that is poor from the player! Alot of chat goes on at HT in terms tactical adjustments, subs being warned off, instructions to cover or press, players being given minutes until a set time for legs, VO2 max or to wear down a particular opponent pre-sub. It also seems like there's more to it than just yesterday. Bring given chances and sorting himself out etc is deeper than a tight muscle.. Even if all of that was the case, why keep on starting him in the first team? I didn’t hear Barton complaining when we won the last 3 games. I can get why Barton is annoyed at Thomas, but you have to look at yourself as well. Either don’t start him or take him off if he’s such a problem player. We have Jevani Brown who can easily take that position.
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Post by kruger on Oct 1, 2023 7:27:17 GMT
Did not like what JB said but I can understand his frustration watch the highlights when the attack broke u could c LT had stopped Just watched highlights. Hunt was the only player at fault there. But imagine big Joey is too scared to call him out. Pathetic now I’ve seen the goal I’m more annoyed with the so called manager. How many more times are you going to slate him, think I've counted 6 or 7 now, think we get your point!
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Oct 1, 2023 7:28:38 GMT
LT has arguably been one of our best players this year. As for chances and sorting his life out or however Barton spouted it, in pre season LT had done that, Sinclair taken him under his wing, getting after it in the gym according to Barton. One big mistake on match day and players all make them at some point, and he’s pond scum. As for the fine, what about our atrocious home form this calendar year? Maybe Barton should be fined.. results speak for themselves. The man needs to pull his head out of his arse because I’d say he’s pretty damn average, not the messiah. He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!”
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Post by eric on Oct 1, 2023 7:53:31 GMT
I really don’t think what JB has said is that bad. From the highlights you can see LT has stopped and has contributed to the conceded goal. So if he is injured and he’s not said anything, then he’s letting his teammates down, his gaffer down and the fans down. Only one person has let the team and fans down today. Hunt?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2023 8:11:14 GMT
I think JB is the sort of character to focus on one negative from a game and then throw that player under the bus for it. We don’t know if LT could/should have been closer to their player who played the ball inside to prevent the first pass for the goal, but to blame him for the defeat, the waste of a weeks work, to say he’ll go and speak to the CEO is over the top I think (but I guess that’s JBs nature). Theres no doubt Hunt should have done better and that’s the biggest takeaway for that goal I can see. But what do we know as just fans. Incidentally if that had been any one of the other fullbacks in the squad putting in a performance like Hunt did they would have been dragged off, I don’t think I’ve seen any of the current squad look so out of their depth defensively at full back as he did yesterday. But as he’s an experienced player I think that’s what’s kept him on the pitch. Overall it was a close game, JB is right on that point and you can’t legislate for aspects of the game that make football so unpredictable like deflections, bad luck or strikers missing chances, which has been an issue this season. Somehow we need to put that right. Also think JB has to look at himself in how we set up for certain games too. We knew they had good wingers and didn’t seem to have done anything to counter that.
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Post by oldie on Oct 1, 2023 8:17:19 GMT
I think JB is the sort of character to focus on one negative from a game and then throw that player under the bus for it. We don’t know if LT could/should have been closer to their player who played the ball inside to prevent the first pass for the goal, but to blame him for the defeat, the waste of a weeks work, to say he’ll go and speak to the CEO is over the top I think (but I guess that’s JBs nature). Theres no doubt Hunt should have done better and that’s the biggest takeaway for that goal I can see. But what do we know as just fans. Incidentally if that had been any one of the other fullbacks in the squad putting in a performance like Hunt did they would have been dragged off, I don’t think I’ve seen any of the current squad look so out of their depth defensively at full back as he did yesterday. But as he’s an experienced player I think that’s what’s kept him on the pitch. Overall it was a close game, JB is right on that point and you can’t legislate for aspects of the game that make football so unpredictable like deflections, bad luck or strikers missing chances, which has been an issue this season. Somehow we need to put that right. Also think JB has to look at himself in how we set up for certain games too. We knew they had good wingers and didn’t seem to have done anything to counter that. "We knew they had good wingers and didn’t seem to have done anything to counter that" Exactly. We have the players, do we have the tactical nous and are we set up to optimise what we have. That sits with the manager
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Post by Gasshole on Oct 1, 2023 8:19:18 GMT
I really don’t think what JB has said is that bad. From the highlights you can see LT has stopped and has contributed to the conceded goal. So if he is injured and he’s not said anything, then he’s letting his teammates down, his gaffer down and the fans down. Sometimes during a game you pick up a knock or feel a slight twinge, but it comes good. Then you go back to the changing sheds for a HT orange, you sit down for ten minutes your body cools and that twinge can return. I think LT did say something prior to heading out for the second half. So give him 5 mins to see how it goes or pull him off. Well that’s how we roll at East Coast Bay Foreign Legion over 35’s Sometimes we swap the orange for a slug of tequila.
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Post by DrFaustus on Oct 1, 2023 8:49:53 GMT
Apologies, did you not say "attack the post" or some twee sh**e? OK then. I've not been captured or captivated by anyone and have a free mind. Thank you for your concern though. Have a lovely evening with yer Kleenex. 🏴☠️🤧 I think you have misunderstood. I was responding to the question posed, not suggesting in any way thatvyou had Stockholm syndrome. I was referring to the players coming back and praising JB. Is that was Stockholm syndrome does? Are you implying that Joey Barton and/or BRFC have the players as hostages, or do you not understand Stockholm Syndrome and your attempt at being clever fell flat on its smarmy arse?
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Oct 1, 2023 9:04:23 GMT
I really don’t think what JB has said is that bad. From the highlights you can see LT has stopped and has contributed to the conceded goal. So if he is injured and he’s not said anything, then he’s letting his teammates down, his gaffer down and the fans down. Sometimes during a game you pick up a knock or feel a slight twinge, but it comes good. Then you go back to the changing sheds for a HT orange, you sit down for ten minutes your body cools and that twinge can return. I think LT did say something prior to heading out for the second half. So give him 5 mins to see how it goes or pull him off. Well that’s how we roll at East Coast Bay Foreign Legion over 35’s Sometimes we swap the orange for a slug of tequila. Only just a slug? The old guard taking it easier in their twilight years
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