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Post by Gashead73 on Oct 23, 2023 15:28:05 GMT
I'm in the Barton camp as I have stated before but overall our form has been hit ir miss (mostly miss since christmas' so that must be taken into the equation. I'm concerned overall that its the same old every week pretty much for at least 9 or 10 months
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Post by bluegas on Oct 23, 2023 15:29:15 GMT
Thanks for posting that Jock. I wish Gloria all the best and a speedy recovery and for what itโs worth on here, I agree with her sentiments. I'm pretty sure I saw her on Saturday at Burton.
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Post by DrFaustus on Oct 23, 2023 16:45:38 GMT
Apologies. It's my two brain cells in conflict with one another. One says we will finish in a play off spot,one says mid-table. The positive one is my favourite and always will be. Appreciate that the manager is always going to be a divisive figure to supporters, but it seems to me (not aimed at you) that some actively want Rovers to fail while he's in charge. Otherwise, they would surely wish he has resounding success. As for thinking others are "thick", not at all. Just me going for a cheap laugh. UTFG ๐ดโโ ๏ธ Two? Do you want yours back?
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2023 17:21:53 GMT
Can I just address a point which is rather condescending both yourself and a few others regularly make: Myself and others do not have โblind faithโ! ย We see the game differently to you and think our play will reap rewards soon, we enjoy watching our team play and are as disappointed as everyone else when we lose, but we believe the lads and coaching team are on the right track.ย So please donโt label others as having blind faith, itโs not very respectful ๐๐พ Bang on Eq. Which is worse by the way - having blind faith or being a sycophant? You accusing Equaliser having blind faith AND being a sycophant? Harsh
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2023 17:28:40 GMT
๐ค๐ Nobody wants us to be successful more than me Purdown. But blind faith doesn't wash with me. At some point we have to evaluate the evidence that is staring us in the face. Hopefully the positive evidence will accumulate on the other side of the balance sheet. At the moment it feels like "Qualified Accounts" from the auditors (us). Can I just address a point which is rather condescending both yourself and a few others regularly make: Myself and others do not have โblind faithโ! ย We see the game differently to you and think our play will reap rewards soon, we enjoy watching our team play and are as disappointed as everyone else when we lose, but we believe the lads and coaching team are on the right track.ย So please donโt label others as having blind faith, itโs not very respectful ๐๐พ Sure. You are perfectly entitled to believe that after several rounds of recruitment, ยฃmillions burned in losses, that this will come good. The thing is you have zero evidence to justify such belief, which is why it's justifiably defined as blind. I have hope, but I cannot ignore what's in front of me. Personally I do not believe those pub signs that declare "Free Beer Tomorrow", either. But each to their own.
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Post by bluegas on Oct 23, 2023 17:32:14 GMT
Bang on Eq. Which is worse by the way - having blind faith or being a sycophant? You accusing Equaliser having blind faith AND being a sycophant? Harsh Where did I accuse Eq of anything? I asked his opinion. BTW - which do you think is worse?
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 23, 2023 17:45:50 GMT
I think Equaliser is a fellow female actually ๐ค๐ ๐
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 23, 2023 17:47:52 GMT
I think Equaliser is a fellow female actually ๐ค๐ ๐
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2023 17:55:15 GMT
You accusing Equaliser having blind faith AND being a sycophant? Harsh Where did I accuse Eq of anything? I asked his opinion. BTW - which do you think is worse? What do I think? Well, personally, I would hate to think I act with "Blind Faith" As for being a Sycophant, I don't believe I ever have been, certainly nobody has ever accused me of being such.
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2023 17:57:02 GMT
I think Equaliser is a fellow female actually ๐ค๐ ๐ Oh really, never knew. Not that it makes any difference. The topic is not gender specific. In my opinion.
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Post by bluegas on Oct 23, 2023 18:07:19 GMT
Where did I accuse Eq of anything? I asked his opinion. BTW - which do you think is worse? What do I think? Well, personally, I would hate to think I act with "Blind Faith" As for being a Sycophant, I don't believe I ever have been, certainly nobody has ever accused me of being such. I asked which you thought was worse. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. As I do not know virtually all of the posters on this forum I would not do so.
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2023 18:13:18 GMT
What do I think? Well, personally, I would hate to think I act with "Blind Faith" As for being a Sycophant, I don't believe I ever have been, certainly nobody has ever accused me of being such. I asked which you thought was worse. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. As I do not know virtually all of the posters on this forum I would not do so. Yeah ok, sorry. Personally I think one is stupid and leads you down blind ally's, (BF). The other is just a bit nauseating and is an unpleasant personality trait. But to be honest there is no equivalence, between the two, is there?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2023 18:16:18 GMT
I'm in the Barton camp as I have stated before but overall our form has been hit ir miss (mostly miss since christmas' so that must be taken into the equation. I'm concerned overall that its the same old every week pretty much for at least 9 or 10 months Away performances have improved recently unfortunately results haven't, I just don't believe we've tough away, where's the players like Craig and Ogogo who whilst technically not brilliant players are prepared to roll up their sleeves and fight for the cause? Central midfield is a particular concern as with Rossiter still out injured we don't seem to have a natural ball winner.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 23, 2023 18:50:31 GMT
I think Equaliser is a fellow female actually ๐ค๐ ๐ Oh really, never knew. Not that it makes any difference. The topic is not gender specific. In my opinion. I was only pointing out out to bluegas as he said HE in ref to equaliser - thatโs all ! ๐๐
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2023 18:55:47 GMT
Oh really, never knew. Not that it makes any difference. The topic is not gender specific. In my opinion. I was only pointing out out to bluegas as he said HE in ref to equaliser - thatโs all ! ๐๐ Yeah, I know.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 23, 2023 19:04:17 GMT
Well a man is man and a woman is a woman Iโm old fashioned) so I politely pointed out he was a she! Just about to tuck into a steak, not a vegan either ! ๐๐utg
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Post by bluegas on Oct 23, 2023 20:07:21 GMT
Oh really, never knew. Not that it makes any difference. The topic is not gender specific. In my opinion. I was only pointing out out to bluegas as he said HE in ref to equaliser - thatโs all ! ๐๐ Should have clicked on the poster's name (in blue) and I would have seen that.
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Post by gasify on Oct 23, 2023 20:26:11 GMT
I have seen on Gaschat about an employee loaning the club money. Where does this story come from? Someone has said itโs in the clubs accounts but nobody has been able to clarify which part when asked Yes, it is in the accounts. The group accounts have a disclosure in them. However, I would be willing to put a pint or two on the Key Management Personel being Wael, rather than JB. If you look at the group accounts for 2021, you will also see the same disclosure but with a different figure. That disclosure for the last few years has been: 2020 - ยฃ290k 2021 - ยฃ300k 2022 - ยฃ700k All under the same heading of Key Management Personel. JB joined us on 22nd Feb 21 (?). So this Key Management personel (could me more than one person) had already loaned a reasonable amount to the football club by then.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 20:59:01 GMT
Someone has said itโs in the clubs accounts but nobody has been able to clarify which part when asked Yes, it is in the accounts. The group accounts have a disclosure in them. However, I would be willing to put a pint or two on the Key Management Personel being Wael, rather than JB. If you look at the group accounts for 2021, you will also see the same disclosure but with a different figure. That disclosure for the last few years has been: 2020 - ยฃ290k 2021 - ยฃ300k 2022 - ยฃ700k All under the same heading of Key Management Personel. JB joined us on 22nd Feb 21 (?). So this Key Management personel (could me more than one person) had already loaned a reasonable amount to the football club by then. Please, donโt bring facts into this. Clearly JB loaned us the money before he was here
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2023 21:08:26 GMT
Someone has said itโs in the clubs accounts but nobody has been able to clarify which part when asked Yes, it is in the accounts. The group accounts have a disclosure in them. However, I would be willing to put a pint or two on the Key Management Personel being Wael, rather than JB. If you look at the group accounts for 2021, you will also see the same disclosure but with a different figure. That disclosure for the last few years has been: 2020 - ยฃ290k 2021 - ยฃ300k 2022 - ยฃ700k All under the same heading of Key Management Personel. JB joined us on 22nd Feb 21 (?). So this Key Management personel (could me more than one person) had already loaned a reasonable amount to the football club by then. Wael's a Director not Key Management Personnel, regardless why would he loan the club money when he writes off the annual debts anyway? Perhaps we've somebody in Management who's reasonably wealthy? Does TG class as Management or as a Director, if the former then it could explain why he seems unsackable!! Could we have more than one employee loaning the club money??
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