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Post by eric on Oct 26, 2023 15:58:08 GMT
Okay mate it’s never been said on here that he’s taking us up, is the best thing to happen to the club in years etc To respond to your original post, I don't recall anybody referring to him as a genius. (unless they were mocking his intellect) That’s the general narrative really. Support the manager and have belief he can be a success long term means you are a fanboy, think he is a genius, you have a low moral compass etc, etc……….. |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Oct 26, 2023 15:59:30 GMT
why? Seems a bit unnecessary to merge the thread tbh. |
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Post by 84gas on Oct 26, 2023 16:00:36 GMT
Bit stunned tbh, I quite like the forthrightness and his BS was wearing thin, but I hope it is based on footballing reasons, not PR reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 16:12:49 GMT
To respond to your original post, I don't recall anybody referring to him as a genius. (unless they were mocking his intellect) That’s the general narrative really. Support the manager and have belief he can be a success long term means you are a fanboy, think he is a genius, you have a low moral compass etc, etc……….. Not what I said. |
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Post by singupgas on Oct 26, 2023 16:13:56 GMT
Who are we seriously going to bring in that has some success league 1?
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Post by RD on Oct 26, 2023 16:23:41 GMT
Who are we seriously going to bring in that has some success league 1? Well we tbf, the bloke we're replacing hasn't had any "success" in L1 either 🤷🏼♂️ |
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Post by RD on Oct 26, 2023 16:24:46 GMT
Absolutely over the moon!!
The bloke was an absolute cretin who dragged the name of this football club through the mud and was hugely overrated to boot. Onwards and upwards!!!!
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Post by socrates on Oct 26, 2023 16:46:26 GMT
Results are not the (sole) reason he has gone. IMHO. Doubt we’ll hear the story from the owners. Sure we’ll hear from one side He has been unprofessional towards some of our own players, opponent managers , officials etc and said things that our owners have probably found unacceptable. It’s probably a combination of these things and our results and our performances over the last 10 months to be honest. I didn’t necessarily want him sacked i wanted him to be successful but I simply haven’t enjoyed watching us this calendar year other than the odd game and wasn’t convinced he was going to make us any better with his tactics and style of play that he’s been trying to implement. I’m not happy he’s been sacked , I’m not sad. He won promotion but that was a while ago now and I don’t think we’re a better side than we had in our promotion season , on paper perhaps the players are better but they didn’t really click last season and they’re not clicking this season. |
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Post by Goose on Oct 26, 2023 16:53:20 GMT
I wonder if that now means JCH won't be back
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Post by socrates on Oct 26, 2023 16:57:10 GMT
Big mistake getting rid of JB. It's not his fault that he has a whole team of injured players. It's just bloody bad luck. It will probably bite us on the backside. He signed lots of aging players and lots of players with history of injuries in the last couple of years to be fair. I suppose you could still call it bad luck but if you sign players in their prime and players who don’t have a history of injuries then you’re more likely to have good luck no ? |
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Post by percy on Oct 26, 2023 16:58:43 GMT
I wonder if that now means JCH won't be back Probably, unless Coughlan gets the job?! If we are talking to the likes of Eustace, we need to dangle the near £1m transfer kitty for whoever they want to go after. Might be JCH might not. |
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Post by gasify on Oct 26, 2023 17:02:45 GMT
No need for that comment really is there. Emotions are running high and some are feeling disappointed/upset that he has left. Just because you wanted him gone and are now happy dosent mean others are. Some people’s dislike of Barton was more important than their attachment to Rovers. I’ve supported Rovers for over 50 years since I was 9; in that time we’ve had some great managers and some that were absolute dogsh*t, but I never let my dislike or hatred of any of them stop me going to support my team and my club, even Buckle and Garninho (who I would’ve quite happily fed to the sharks). And before all the usual suspects start banging on, I’m not claiming to be a better fan or supporter than anyone else, just saying that Rovers are my club for life, but managers are temporary and I wouldn’t stay away from them just because I happen to take a dislike to whoever’s managing the team during any given week. JB is a one off. No other manager has committed the offences that JB has been convicted of. Then there was the main one in his time with us. Some people have different principles to others. Some see their principles as part of who they are. Some have less principles. We should always admire people who act on their principles, regardless whether we agree with them or not. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 26, 2023 17:06:56 GMT
Some people’s dislike of Barton was more important than their attachment to Rovers. I’ve supported Rovers for over 50 years since I was 9; in that time we’ve had some great managers and some that were absolute dogsh*t, but I never let my dislike or hatred of any of them stop me going to support my team and my club, even Buckle and Garninho (who I would’ve quite happily fed to the sharks). And before all the usual suspects start banging on, I’m not claiming to be a better fan or supporter than anyone else, just saying that Rovers are my club for life, but managers are temporary and I wouldn’t stay away from them just because I happen to take a dislike to whoever’s managing the team during any given week. JB is a one off. No other manager has committed the offences that JB has been convicted of. Then there was the main one in his time with us. Some people have different principles to others. Some see their principles as part of who they are. Some have less principles. We should always admire people who act on their principles, regardless whether we agree with them or not. We should also then acknowledge that some peoples principles are Team first, Manager second. People who didn't like Barton for personal reasons are not necessarily right. |
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Post by Jomo on Oct 26, 2023 17:07:55 GMT
Mixed feelings about this. I fully understand the feelings from both sides. JB is a very divisive and enigmatic character. At times he is a liability, and at other times he's a very thoughtful and inspirational leader.
The timing is strange as we have a raft of injuries and we've not been performing all that badly, and he has proven last season that he can turn around a sinking ship. I do also worry that a lot of the players he brought in came here due to him and his persona and management style.
So all in all I'm unsure whether this is the right decision, but for sure this next appointment is absolutely crucial to get right, and I fear the board don't have the expertise or strategy to make the right decisions. Most of the names on the bookies odds are really depressing to read, and my gut instinct is better the devil you know, and the next manager might struggle if they don't have a strong personality. I hope to be proven wrong.
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Post by Quarters on Oct 26, 2023 17:09:56 GMT
Mixed feelings about this. I fully understand the feelings from both sides. JB is a very divisive and enigmatic character. At times he is a liability, and at other times he's a very thoughtful and inspirational leader. The timing is strange as we have a raft of injuries and we've not been performing all that badly, and he has proven last season that he can turn around a sinking ship. I do also worry that a lot of the players he brought in came here due to him and his persona and management style. So all in all I'm unsure whether this is the right decision, but for sure this next appointment is absolutely crucial to get right, and I fear the board don't have the expertise or strategy to make the right decisions. Most of the names on the bookies odds are really depressing to read, and my gut instinct is better the devil you know, and the next manager might struggle if they don't have a strong personality. I hope to be proven wrong. Thought we started sinking again at the turn of the year. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Oct 26, 2023 17:13:01 GMT
Mixed feelings about this. I fully understand the feelings from both sides. JB is a very divisive and enigmatic character. At times he is a liability, and at other times he's a very thoughtful and inspirational leader. The timing is strange as we have a raft of injuries and we've not been performing all that badly, and he has proven last season that he can turn around a sinking ship. I do also worry that a lot of the players he brought in came here due to him and his persona and management style. So all in all I'm unsure whether this is the right decision, but for sure this next appointment is absolutely crucial to get right, and I fear the board don't have the expertise or strategy to make the right decisions. Most of the names on the bookies odds are really depressing to read, and my gut instinct is better the devil you know, and the next manager might struggle if they don't have a strong personality. I hope to be proven wrong. Absolutely, totally agree. |
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Post by percy on Oct 26, 2023 17:15:30 GMT
Mixed feelings about this. I fully understand the feelings from both sides. JB is a very divisive and enigmatic character. At times he is a liability, and at other times he's a very thoughtful and inspirational leader. The timing is strange as we have a raft of injuries and we've not been performing all that badly, and he has proven last season that he can turn around a sinking ship. I do also worry that a lot of the players he brought in came here due to him and his persona and management style. So all in all I'm unsure whether this is the right decision, but for sure this next appointment is absolutely crucial to get right, and I fear the board don't have the expertise or strategy to make the right decisions. Most of the names on the bookies odds are really depressing to read, and my gut instinct is better the devil you know, and the next manager might struggle if they don't have a strong personality. I hope to be proven wrong. The more i think about, the more i think its only partially due to results/performances. The new owners will have changed everything for Joey, no longer could he be sure of being the be all and end of of BRFC, with Wael and TG having backed him again and again. Quite easy to imagine he is not their cup of tea in how he runs his mouth, and they decided to move quick to allow time to plan for January. Lets hope they are well advised on his replacement and convince someone we can all get excited about to take us to the next level. |
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Post by okebournegas83 on Oct 26, 2023 17:15:33 GMT
Not happy ,just like the sacking of DC , should of been given more time , lots of injuries to deal with as well. Probably get someone in like Garner again to finish us off and relegate us back to league 2. Why can’t we just get anything right at this club.
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Post by kruger on Oct 26, 2023 17:18:15 GMT
Not happy ,just like the sacking of DC , should of been given more time , lots of injuries to deal with as well. Probably get someone in like Garner again to finish us off and relegate us back to league 2. Why can’t we just get anything right at this club. you just know it, still it will make a few on here happy watching sh**e football from now on, the staff in charge won't want to stay some of the players won't want to stay, JCH won't be coming now, league 2 is a nice league anyway |
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Post by socrates on Oct 26, 2023 17:20:04 GMT
I think perhaps worst thing about him leaving for me is that we might go back to not being able to attract good players to the club anymore.
From a recruitment point of view I think he’s been a solid 9/10 but obviously at times he just simply hasn’t got the best out of those players as a team.
I’ve often thought that he would make a great chief scout but is only an average lower league manager.
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