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Post by Jomo on Oct 26, 2023 17:24:10 GMT
I think perhaps worst thing about him leaving for me is that we might go back to not being able to attract good players to the club anymore. From a recruitment point of view I think he’s been a solid 9/10 but obviously at times he just simply hasn’t got the best out of those players as a team. I’ve often thought that he would make a great chief scout but is only an average lower league manager. That worries me too. JB has been instrumental in attracting a much higher calibre of player to the Gas since he arrived. Remember what we had before? Who's going to be our scout now, do we even have a recruitment team? |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 26, 2023 17:25:47 GMT
Not happy ,just like the sacking of DC , should of been given more time , lots of injuries to deal with as well. Probably get someone in like Garner again to finish us off and relegate us back to league 2. Why can’t we just get anything right at this club. you just know it, still it will make a few on here happy watching sh**e football from now on, the staff in charge won't want to stay some of the players won't want to stay, JCH won't be coming now, league 2 is a nice league anyway 😲 How many points between SA and NZ on the weekend please matey? |
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Post by axegas on Oct 26, 2023 17:29:59 GMT
I think perhaps worst thing about him leaving for me is that we might go back to not being able to attract good players to the club anymore. From a recruitment point of view I think he’s been a solid 9/10 but obviously at times he just simply hasn’t got the best out of those players as a team. I’ve often thought that he would make a great chief scout but is only an average lower league manager. That worries me too. JB has been instrumental in attracting a much higher calibre of player to the Gas since he arrived. Remember what we had before? Who's going to be our scout now, do we even have a recruitment team? I presume Eddy Jennings, our head of football operations will go.
If you search Bristol Rovers scout into Google, a guy called 'Chris Spendlove' appears, who apparently joined us as a Chief Scout from Plymouth in 2022 where he was First Team Scout there.
I'd imagine he'd stay but it says he's a Liverpudlian so you never know, he could follow JB elsewhere.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 26, 2023 17:31:48 GMT
I think perhaps worst thing about him leaving for me is that we might go back to not being able to attract good players to the club anymore. From a recruitment point of view I think he’s been a solid 9/10 but obviously at times he just simply hasn’t got the best out of those players as a team. I’ve often thought that he would make a great chief scout but is only an average lower league manager. That worries me too. JB has been instrumental in attracting a much higher calibre of player to the Gas since he arrived. Remember what we had before? Who's going to be our scout now, do we even have a recruitment team? It's no good recruiting players if you can't manage them. |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Oct 26, 2023 17:32:04 GMT
Thinking about it the timing of the sacking could key. Gives plenty of time for whoever is coming in to access the situation and start planning for January and beyond.
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Post by justin blue on Oct 26, 2023 17:33:39 GMT
Never a fan of the man, but loved his style of football that at times was a joy to watch.
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Post by dcr on Oct 26, 2023 17:36:39 GMT
Usual problem with new owners thinking they know more about football than people who have been involved all of their lives.
I can see all of the loan players being recalled and a few others wanting to leave.
Only question is how many relegations now.
I think i have given up on them now.
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Post by gasmonkey on Oct 26, 2023 17:37:06 GMT
I was shocked by this, I think we’ve been alright, certainly better under Barton than any in the revolving door of managers in recent history. I honestly thought we’d hit a bit of form and go on a run. Injuries and the JCH debacle haven’t helped him. I don’t suppose he’s helped himself by throwing the odd player under the bus. I’m a bit disappointed, I think we’d have turned our form around. Hopefully we’ll improve but we could also get worse and see another flurry of sh** managers without much of a clue. I think Joey brought in some quality players, I can’t remember many others bringing in and retaining the same quality for a while. I hope whoever takes over is as good in that respect.
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 26, 2023 17:40:40 GMT
Never a fan of the man, but loved his style of football that at times was a joy to watch. What playing in our own half yea just great that was, what about us being able to play in the others half. He had, and still does not, have a clue. Thats why Fleetwood got rid. UTG. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 26, 2023 17:41:39 GMT
Usual problem with new owners thinking they know more about football than people who have been involved all of their lives. I can see all of the loan players being recalled and a few others wanting to leave. Only question is how many relegations now. I think i have given up on them now. Why give up? We get relegated and promoted on the regular and have done for what, 10, 15, 20 years?? Mid table mediocrity in L1 for more than a season or 2 would be an achievement for whoever manages Rovers. |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Oct 26, 2023 17:42:29 GMT
Joey was walking a fine line imo , not just the poor results and performances since promotion , but his outbursts in the media. Throwing players under the bus , insulting all and sundry , the new owners must have been cringing. Admittedly our football has looked tidier , but there is no getting away with the fact JB could not consistently get a tune out of this team. Slight sidenote , I didn't like the body language of the players on Tuesday, as if they realy didn't want to play for him. That said , I was surprised at the timing, thought mabey we would go into Dec as buisness as usual , and then act. Grateful for the promotion season of course , but things move fast in football , and we have loftier ambitions than 16th in lg 1. If our so called wealthy owners have the pulling power , who knows who we could attract..... UTG
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Post by socrates on Oct 26, 2023 17:46:51 GMT
I think perhaps worst thing about him leaving for me is that we might go back to not being able to attract good players to the club anymore. From a recruitment point of view I think he’s been a solid 9/10 but obviously at times he just simply hasn’t got the best out of those players as a team. I’ve often thought that he would make a great chief scout but is only an average lower league manager. That worries me too. JB has been instrumental in attracting a much higher calibre of player to the Gas since he arrived. Remember what we had before? Who's going to be our scout now, do we even have a recruitment team? I guess we’ll find out over the coming months and years, hopefully whoever takes his place will have good contacts. I’ve always liked Roy Keane , he’s done ok as a manager not great but got Sunderland promoted to the Prem and kept them up if I remember rightly and was average at Ipswich I think ? He’s made it clear that he’d like to get back in to management and is a born winner. He’d obviously have good contacts and wears his heart on his sleeve but is generally more respectful and professional than Barton. I’d rather someone like Keane than a Garner / Tisdale type anyway. Also I know he’s generally hated by us Bristolians but I’ve always admired Warnock as a manager , obviously that wouldn’t be.a Long term appointment but then again these days who is ? And I think he’d be more likely to get us in the top 6 than most. |
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Post by richmace on Oct 26, 2023 17:50:36 GMT
I am not a fan of Barton as a man, but as a football manager (only) he has my respect.
He turned the club around on the football pitch, and we were starting to build a decent football team in League One (again).
He is a decent manager who will have no trouble finding another club.
I find this a strange time to let him go. He has a long contract and whilst we have not set League One on fire (yet), we are not even halfway through the season. Given that we always start slowly I still had expectations for this season.
As many have said, a devisive character who regularly embarasses the club, so hopefully we can move forward as a unified fanbase again.
Absolutely critical we get the right person in, there is still potentially a promotion to be had this season (or next).
UTG
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 26, 2023 17:51:28 GMT
That worries me too. JB has been instrumental in attracting a much higher calibre of player to the Gas since he arrived. Remember what we had before? Who's going to be our scout now, do we even have a recruitment team? I guess we’ll find out over the coming months and years, hopefully whoever takes his place will have good contacts. I’ve always liked Roy Keane , he’s done ok as a manager not great but got Sunderland promoted to the Prem and kept them up if I remember rightly and was average at Ipswich I think ? He’s made it clear that he’d like to get back in to management and is a born winner. He’d obviously have good contacts and wears his heart on his sleeve but is generally more respectful and professional than Barton. I’d rather someone like Keane than a Garner / Tisdale type anyway. Also I know he’s generally hated by us Bristolians but I’ve always admired Warnock as a manager , obviously that wouldn’t be.a Long term appointment but then again these days who is ? And I think he’d be more likely to get us in the top 6 than most. Keep the w**ker, it better than Warnock. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 26, 2023 17:55:32 GMT
Never a fan of the man, but loved his style of football that at times was a joy to watch. What playing in our own half yea just great that was, what about us being able to play in the others half. He had, and still does not, have a clue. Thats why Fleetwood got rid. UTG. JB got Fleetwood into the play offs, no recent Rovers manager has achieved that since Holloway. |
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Post by The Equaliser on Oct 26, 2023 17:57:32 GMT
Obviously from his outbursts understandable, however on performance? Hard to accept those who make the decisions have faired any better the last few years if we’re grading people.
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Post by socrates on Oct 26, 2023 17:59:32 GMT
I am not a fan of Barton as a man, but as a football manager (only) he has my respect. He turned the club around on the football pitch, and we were starting to build a decent football team in League One (again). He is a decent manager who will have no trouble finding another club. I find this a strange time to let him go. He has a long contract and whilst we have not set League One on fire (yet), we are not even halfway through the season. Given that we always start slowly I still had expectations for this season. As many have said, a devisive character who regularly embarasses the club, so hopefully we can move forward as a unified fanbase again. Absolutely critical we get the right person in, there is still potentially a promotion to be had this season (or next). UTG I agree with what you say apart from the bit about next season in brackets. I feel Barton very much built this squad with only the now in mind. Lots of players on the books in the twilight of their careers and a massive rebuilding job to do in the summer. I think Barton saw this summer as a last throw of the dice to get a move either from winning promotion to the championship and staying or moving on to another club if it didn’t really work out. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 26, 2023 18:00:17 GMT
Obviously from his outbursts understandable, however on performance? Hard to accept those who make the decisions have faired any better the last few years if we’re grading people. I think I agree but as we know next to chuff all about our new owners, their standard or intentions can only be guessed at. Some will argue this sacking is a statement in itself. I guess whoever takes charge will also be the only other indication of anything from our mystery men. |
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Post by gasify on Oct 26, 2023 18:13:12 GMT
JB is a one off. No other manager has committed the offences that JB has been convicted of. Then there was the main one in his time with us. Some people have different principles to others. Some see their principles as part of who they are. Some have less principles. We should always admire people who act on their principles, regardless whether we agree with them or not. We should also then acknowledge that some peoples principles are Team first, Manager second. People who didn't like Barton for personal reasons are not necessarily right. I understand what you are trying to say here Hugo. I had to separate Barton the person from Barton the Manager. I didn't give up on the team and continued to support the team. However, where do you draw the line? Would we accept Lee Hughes? Luke McCormick? Ched Evans? Surely every football fan has their own moral compass and red (I mean blue) line that they wouldn't cross? |
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Post by gasify on Oct 26, 2023 18:16:08 GMT
Usual problem with new owners thinking they know more about football than people who have been involved all of their lives. I can see all of the loan players being recalled and a few others wanting to leave. Only question is how many relegations now. I think i have given up on them now. We had one under JB. Loan players cannot be recalled is the general concensus this season? |
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