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Post by gasify on Oct 26, 2023 22:29:25 GMT
I find this interesting. It almost sounds like you want the rest of the season to be bad, just to say "told you so". The fact of the matter is that if the season turns out to be rubbish, it's due to whoever comes in being sick with JB players. I was led to believe that with another managers players, you get a free pass on relegation. And if JB had stayed on and fortunes turned around would you have praised him - we will never know ! I only want the best for the gas I have supported them since a small child, I just feel this was a very bad decision. 💙 UTG If he had got us to the Championship, he would have earned the title of Rovers Legend. Getting us relegated and then promoted, doesn't make him a legend. DC gets to be a legend due to back to back promotions |
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Post by philrtid on Oct 26, 2023 22:32:29 GMT
I agree with what you say apart from the bit about next season in brackets. I feel Barton very much built this squad with only the now in mind. Lots of players on the books in the twilight of their careers and a massive rebuilding job to do in the summer. I think Barton saw this summer as a last throw of the dice to get a move either from winning promotion to the championship and staying or moving on to another club if it didn’t really work out. He probably also saw it as the best chance in years to make at least the play offs, only Pompey really look strong this season out of bigger clubs. Stevenage didn't look anything that special on Tuesday night and they've been top 3/top 6 for most of the session. There hasn't been a team this season that has looked better than what we have, we just haven't been putting the ball into the net. Reckon we'll thump Northampton on Saturday just to let a bit of steam off. |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 26, 2023 22:35:01 GMT
I didn’t say he was a legend ! He could have been - we will never know !
I wish whoever takes takes over the very best of luck.
I would never want the gas to fail, especially to prove a point .
That was a very churlish comment from you .
Goodnight Utg 💙.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 22:39:15 GMT
The back room staff remain but for how long? They are all closely linked with JB but it was only JB that was sacked. Had Rovers sacked his acolytes I suppose the club would have had to pay them up. If they choose to resign and follow JB that will be up to them but Rovers wouldn’t be liable. Would they? Depends I suppose on the fine print in their contracts. UTG! Well if they’d sacked them all today there’d be nobody to take Saturdays game! A new coach/manager usually wants their own team in place. A new coach may well bring their own team in if that is the route we go down. Then JBs team will have to be paid up. My point was that the owners would obviously want to keep any contract terminations to a minimum and if people do go they will go by resigning and therefore not requiring the club to pay up their contracts. But as I said I guess it depends on their individual contracts. I don’t know but a sacking on a Thursday must be pretty unusual insofar as it must make things more difficult in relation to the Saturday match. With that in mind perhaps Andy M has just agreed to do it for a limited time. I’ve no idea and I bet we won’t get told, it will just happen. UTG! |
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 26, 2023 22:41:43 GMT
Suggest you read all the messages online and not just this forum before making comments like that that you can't back up. I have read messages on twitter. From what I can see, maybe 50 messages of support. How many messages are you seeing? 50 messages is hardly 95% of the fan base. Almost every single message I have seen has been positive towards him. We must have very different following accounts |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 26, 2023 22:43:47 GMT
We won’t get told - well that’s spot on ! 😩💙Utg
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Post by kingswoodpirate70 on Oct 26, 2023 23:15:51 GMT
Now everyone can go back to saying and knowing dick Barton was a first class bellend. Like everyone undoubtedly did before. We got are rovers back
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Post by socrates on Oct 26, 2023 23:23:16 GMT
I guess we’ll find out over the coming months and years, hopefully whoever takes his place will have good contacts. I’ve always liked Roy Keane , he’s done ok as a manager not great but got Sunderland promoted to the Prem and kept them up if I remember rightly and was average at Ipswich I think ? He’s made it clear that he’d like to get back in to management and is a born winner. He’d obviously have good contacts and wears his heart on his sleeve but is generally more respectful and professional than Barton. I’d rather someone like Keane than a Garner / Tisdale type anyway. Also I know he’s generally hated by us Bristolians but I’ve always admired Warnock as a manager , obviously that wouldn’t be.a Long term appointment but then again these days who is ? And I think he’d be more likely to get us in the top 6 than most. I'd take Keano in a heartbeat, knows his footie and is a seasoned top level pro miles ahead of Joey. Won't happen but worth a try if they've loads of money to throw around. Be entertaining if nothing else. I’m not even sure he’d be demanding a big budget . He’s said many times he’d like to get back in to management. I’m 45 and growing up watching the many sides that Ferguson built I think he was Man Utd’s most important player over that time. As a manager he’s done ok not great but I think he should look to a club like ours if he’s going to get back in to management. He would be similar to JB in terms of contacts but not an arsehole in the media and internal problems like JB was and would be a good natural progression moving on from Barton I think. |
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Post by socrates on Oct 26, 2023 23:41:11 GMT
I agree with what you say apart from the bit about next season in brackets. I feel Barton very much built this squad with only the now in mind. Lots of players on the books in the twilight of their careers and a massive rebuilding job to do in the summer. I think Barton saw this summer as a last throw of the dice to get a move either from winning promotion to the championship and staying or moving on to another club if it didn’t really work out. He probably also saw it as the best chance in years to make at least the play offs, only Pompey really look strong this season out of bigger clubs. Stevenage didn't look anything that special on Tuesday night and they've been top 3/top 6 for most of the session. Their manager understands league 1 and 2 and what is required with what you’ve got though . Barton sees himself as a premier league manager and tried to get us playing like Man City , Arsenal , Brighton it was a failed attempt and within 5-6 games of the season kicking off it was clear to me that this style of football would not work and he was going to have to change his tactics or would either be sacked or we would be in the bottom half of the division come May. I’ve said this many times since the beginning of the season it’s not hindsight I even posted those exact words last night before the news that he was sacked ,and it was clear to me that his style of play with these players was doomed and he would have to change it or be sacked. He didn’t , he was sacked . He tried so hard to run before he could walk and I respect that because he wanted us to play like the top sides in the country who have the best players in the world play but it was also narrow minded and naive of him and ultimately it cost him his job I think. I am a little surprised that it was as soon as it was but there was probably a board meeting where he stood his ground regarding tactics , the board had enough knowledge of league 1 to have an educated opinion and gut instinct that it wasn’t going to get any better and now he’s history. We move on. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 27, 2023 0:59:16 GMT
He's had a massive outpouring of support all over social media today. I don't think I've ever seen as much love for a manager that has been sacked as this. It seems 95% of the fan base don't want to see him fired. That's hilarious. I suggest it's the other way round and only 5% of fans wanted him to stay. Your talking absolute crap! |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 27, 2023 1:53:59 GMT
Not the news i expected to hear today, think a large majority of fans would have given JB more time to turn the season around, some (like me) were convinced he would take Rovers on to better things and that he understood us and our long suffering fans, a small minority will be dancing in the street as they continue there crusade against him using hateful language as they have since his appointment, if they confined their criticism to on field matters ,tactics and the like , then that is fine and leads to good robust debate but some don't, they have used language to describe JB which many strongly object to, you read stuff on here like 'we are most hated club in the division', 'dragging the club through the gutter', and as for dividing the fan base well see Big Jocks post on that one, he put's it better than anyone. I assume the decision was taken by new kids on the block as Wael obviously had every confidence in JB, all will be revealed in due course no doubt, think it to early in season to be a results based decision, so we shall see, meanwhile thanks JB for your passion and for your efforts to put the club on an upwards path, sorry you couldn't finish the job, good luck in the future and i hope you are received warmly should you return to the Mem with a new club
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 4:56:05 GMT
I have read messages on twitter. From what I can see, maybe 50 messages of support. How many messages are you seeing? 50 messages is hardly 95% of the fan base. Almost every single message I have seen has been positive towards him. We must have very different following accounts That's something we can be proud of as a group of fans. It would be easy for 'Barton Haters' to hit out at him, its good to see that they are showing restraint. Your comment that I was responding to was "It seems 95% of the fan base don't want to see him fired." 50 messages doesn't equate to 95% of the fanbase. If you had said "95% of the messages I've seen have been wishing him all the best and thanking him" Then I would agree with that and I think that is something we can all be proud of as a collective. |
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 5:00:23 GMT
That's hilarious. I suggest it's the other way round and only 5% of fans wanted him to stay. Your talking absolute crap! What was crap was his points per game return, with what has been said by many as the best squad ever assembled (I don't necessarily agree with that mind) and the biggest wage bill. |
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 5:16:01 GMT
I didn’t say he was a legend ! He could have been - we will never know ! I wish whoever takes takes over the very best of luck. I would never want the gas to fail, especially to prove a point . That was a very churlish comment from you . Goodnight Utg 💙. POST FOR GASIFY I know, I didn't accuse you of that. The term 'Legend' in the modern world is over used. I was responding generically as I have seen lots of people refer to him as one. To me, he just put back the league 1 status that he stole the season before. "I wish whoever takes takes over the very best of luck."Great stuff. This gives us all an opportunity to unite as a fan base. We do have to accept that moving forward, we will get some idiots on the matchday thread saying: "We shouldn't have sacked JB" "Its not (insert new managers name here) team, so they don't have the same level of accountability" "I would never want the gas to fail, especially to prove a point ." Glad to hear that, I am the same. I would rather JB have left us for a bigger club after promotion to the Championship rather than deliver the results that we have seen in 2023. "That was a very churlish comment from you ."It was designed to be in all honesty. It was a throwback to all the times that anyone on this forum has accused a fellow fan of wanting the team to lose. There have been lots of people on this forum, setting themselves up to regurgitate their comment on this forum. If we are still in this position in the league towards the end of the season, then they will quote this thread in a playground "Told you so". The facts of the matter is 1.26 pts per game will just about keep us in the division. With the backing that JB got financially, we should be producing better than that. |
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Post by singupgas on Oct 27, 2023 5:21:13 GMT
If we appoint anyone with City connection, I think I will do a Hugo and what other did and just not go.
Cotteril and Holden should never be considered.
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 5:24:58 GMT
Not the news i expected to hear today, think a large majority of fans would have given JB more time to turn the season around, some (like me) were convinced he would take Rovers on to better things and that he understood us and our long suffering fans, a small minority will be dancing in the street as they continue there crusade against him using hateful language as they have since his appointment, if they confined their criticism to on field matters ,tactics and the like , then that is fine and leads to good robust debate but some don't, they have used language to describe JB which many strongly object to, you read stuff on here like 'we are most hated club in the division', 'dragging the club through the gutter', and as for dividing the fan base well see Big Jocks post on that one, he put's it better than anyone. I assume the decision was taken by new kids on the block as Wael obviously had every confidence in JB, all will be revealed in due course no doubt, think it to early in season to be a results based decision, so we shall see, meanwhile thanks JB for your passion and for your efforts to put the club on an upwards path, sorry you couldn't finish the job, good luck in the future and i hope you are received warmly should you return to the Mem with a new club I think this has been discussed in many matchday forums, do you not read the comments like: "Out thought by another manager" "No Plan B" "Lots of possession but now real threat" "Passing the ball between the defenders and the keeper is boring football" "We don't get the ball forward quickly enough" "Playing players out of position, again" As for the off field antics. It was either JB to blame for the embarrassment of the domestic violence episode or it was his wife. It was either JB to blame for driving without insurance or his brother (maybe brother in law?) Either way, at best these were gifts for the dark side to take the p*ss. I'm not sure any other football club had their manager in court twice in less than two years of being in the position. You may find that acceptable, others don't. |
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 5:30:56 GMT
If we appoint anyone with City connection, I think I will do a Hugo and what other did and just not go. Cotteril and Holden should never be considered. Did you stay away when Russell Osman kept us up? 1.75 points per game, wasn't it? |
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Post by kruger on Oct 27, 2023 5:38:23 GMT
I didn’t say he was a legend ! He could have been - we will never know ! I wish whoever takes takes over the very best of luck. I would never want the gas to fail, especially to prove a point . That was a very churlish comment from you . Goodnight Utg 💙. POST FOR GASIFY [ some on here take on what you say then change it to suit them, worked that one out along time ago |
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Post by singupgas on Oct 27, 2023 5:43:48 GMT
If we appoint anyone with City connection, I think I will do a Hugo and what other did and just not go. Cotteril and Holden should never be considered. Did you stay away when Russell Osman kept us up? 1.75 points per game, wasn't it? No. What's that to do with these guys. Next Lee Johnson will be considered 🤢 |
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 6:07:49 GMT
Did you stay away when Russell Osman kept us up? 1.75 points per game, wasn't it? No. What's that to do with these guys. Next Lee Johnson will be considered 🤢 "If we appoint anyone with City connection" |
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