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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2023 22:35:29 GMT
Didn’t the club/JB extend his contract until 2026. Could be very expensive to get rid of him - it’ll be down to him whether he decides to go or not imo. Length of contract is irrelevant. Notice period is what matters and it’s usually 12 months
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Post by yattongas on Oct 21, 2023 22:40:41 GMT
I certainly wouldn't get rid now because we're not actually in trouble yet and there's time to turn it around. But it's underwhelming so far and the pretty football isn't delivering. The alleged budget is not reflected in the league position. On the issue of posters who say 'and replace him with who?', followed no doubt by a smirk and a wise satisfied shrug of the shoulders, that's a bit like saying nobody in life should ever lose their job unless you have a replacement lined up already. Maybe the mysterious silent new owners are already putting out feelers? They certainly haven't backed him publicly or said he's the man they see as right for the job, as Wael did. But they don't say anything so nothing to be read into that, I suppose. Spot on . *some* of us are getting to the point where we’re questioning. Nothing wrong with that because results have been poor . As for the new owners …… bout time they said something isn’t it ? Anything ? Hello?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 21, 2023 22:43:29 GMT
I certainly wouldn't get rid now because we're not actually in trouble yet and there's time to turn it around. But it's underwhelming so far and the pretty football isn't delivering. The alleged budget is not reflected in the league position. On the issue of posters who say 'and replace him with who?', followed no doubt by a smirk and a wise satisfied shrug of the shoulders, that's a bit like saying nobody in life should ever lose their job unless you have a replacement lined up already. Maybe the mysterious silent new owners are already putting out feelers? They certainly haven't backed him publicly or said he's the man they see as right for the job, as Wael did. But they don't say anything so nothing to be read into that, I suppose. There are times when a team is so so poor that sacking is the only option. When your team is on the whole playing well but poor discipline and Injuries are costing us points then quite right the question should be asked as to if we sack Barton then who do you suggest should take his place. Who will do any better than him with the current fit players he has to choose from.? It's laughable that people are calling for him to be sacked but have no idea who to replace him with. If we're bottom 4 at 5pm next Saturday evening then it may be we have to look elsewhere but we're not at that point yet. If we had an idea what would it matter when the owners will appoint who they want as manager, not who we think could do a better job? It's not like JB's the only person who could manage us. Most likely Mangan would get the caretakers job if JB left mid season, then it's his to lose.
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Post by Somersetgas on Oct 21, 2023 22:46:25 GMT
I certainly wouldn't get rid now because we're not actually in trouble yet and there's time to turn it around. But it's underwhelming so far and the pretty football isn't delivering. The alleged budget is not reflected in the league position. On the issue of posters who say 'and replace him with who?', followed no doubt by a smirk and a wise satisfied shrug of the shoulders, that's a bit like saying nobody in life should ever lose their job unless you have a replacement lined up already. Maybe the mysterious silent new owners are already putting out feelers? They certainly haven't backed him publicly or said he's the man they see as right for the job, as Wael did. But they don't say anything so nothing to be read into that, I suppose. Spot on . *some* of us are getting to the point where we’re questioning. Nothing wrong with that because results have been poor . As for the new owners …… bout time they said something isn’t it ? Anything ? Hello? Do they exist? Genuine question.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 21, 2023 22:51:34 GMT
Spot on . *some* of us are getting to the point where we’re questioning. Nothing wrong with that because results have been poor . As for the new owners …… bout time they said something isn’t it ? Anything ? Hello? Do they exist? Genuine question. apparently they were going to give some sort of statement….. And still we wait ? 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2023 22:54:19 GMT
He was shit3 beginning until the end of his time here. If you are saying Joey should go then Garner absolutely should have been sacked. We've spent a bit of money and suddenly we are expected to walk the league, need to give your heads a wobble. should never have employed a sports teacher in the first place.next thing people will be recommending any jobbing manager on the circuit that is out of work retired or someone like Nathan Jones whose ego is bigger then even garners Lmao the audacity to have a dig at anyone’s ego when Barton is our manager 😂😂😂😂
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Post by Somersetgas on Oct 21, 2023 23:00:13 GMT
Do they exist? Genuine question. apparently they were going to give some sort of statement….. And still we wait ? 🙄 Yes……… this , all quite concerning.
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Post by kruger on Oct 22, 2023 7:06:43 GMT
This place is still a barrel of laughs I see 😂 , we’ve lost , we’ve got injuries , sh** happens , get over it. Can’t believe people are genuinely wanting Barton out. fickle, really fickle, next week we will be going up again if we win
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Post by gulfofaden on Oct 22, 2023 7:22:33 GMT
Meltdown confirmed.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Oct 22, 2023 7:33:28 GMT
Not sure if it's Barton out? But I'm certainly getting fed up of being rolled over by sides that like to bully us. What's the point of having the better of the game, creating chances, then the ball gets pumped forward, 3 touches and it's in the back of the net? As it stands, I think mid table will be an achievement. The goal scoring move that you just described has proven to be the most effective in league 1 certainly since I’ve been watching football and just because a Spanish manager came over here a few years ago and got the best squad playing like a Spanish side it doesn’t change that. Yes I agree, it was reference to our poor defending.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 22, 2023 7:47:08 GMT
This place is still a barrel of laughs I see 😂 , we’ve lost , we’ve got injuries , sh** happens , get over it. Can’t believe people are genuinely wanting Barton out. fickle, really fickle, next week we will be going up again if we win Results have been poor since JB's fall out with Belshaw last January, it's not like it's just a short run of poor results. JB’s PPG over that period has been around 1pt whereas Pompey and Barnsley etc has been 2pts, we're miles off a Play Off push if that was the owners aim.
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Oct 22, 2023 7:50:28 GMT
Next 4 games should tell us a lot , 5 if you want to include the FA cup game. Even with injuries I expect a decent points return.
The way we play is a marked improvement on last season , and we've lost that lethargic element. But we can play as pretty as we want,
the stats dont lie , 17th in a ( imo ) p**s poor league.
Next up Stevenage , Steve Evans the party villain wont make it easy , but in order to get top 6 in May we need to mix it up.
Still keepin the faith ( just ) UTG
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 22, 2023 8:00:13 GMT
Do they exist? Genuine question. apparently they were going to give some sort of statement….. And still we wait ? 🙄 I've mentioned this in another thread but the silence from our new owners does concern me slightly. Maybe that's just the way they conduct their business but it makes me uneasy. They are probably the least communicative owners in the football league. It is very strange that we heard a short exert from them on joining months ago and literally nothing since. 🤷
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Oct 22, 2023 8:04:01 GMT
apparently they were going to give some sort of statement….. And still we wait ? 🙄 I've mentioned this in another thread but the silence from our new owners does concern me slightly. Maybe that's just the way they conduct their business but it makes me uneasy. They are probably the least communicative owners in the football league. It is very strange that we heard a short exert from them on joining months ago and literally nothing since. 🤷 Yes , and given all thats been going on since , its not like they have had no reason to update or comment ( Wael inc ) .
A simple introduction , even in broken English would have been nice . Life at Rovers eh?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 8:30:12 GMT
apparently they were going to give some sort of statement….. And still we wait ? 🙄 I've mentioned this in another thread but the silence from our new owners does concern me slightly. Maybe that's just the way they conduct their business but it makes me uneasy. They are probably the least communicative owners in the football league. It is very strange that we heard a short exert from them on joining months ago and literally nothing since. 🤷 No communication is fine when you’re winning but when things get a little tense results wise they’ll soon find out it’s not so great
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 22, 2023 8:31:06 GMT
apparently they were going to give some sort of statement….. And still we wait ? 🙄 I've mentioned this in another thread but the silence from our new owners does concern me slightly. Maybe that's just the way they conduct their business but it makes me uneasy. They are probably the least communicative owners in the football league. It is very strange that we heard a short exert from them on joining months ago and literally nothing since. 🤷 Perhaps having looked properly at the club's books etc they are now totally dumbfounded? It's odd they gave a brief interview shortly after the takeover but have been totally silent since. We wouldn't even know we had two further new board members without the Companies House records being updated.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 22, 2023 8:37:01 GMT
I certainly wouldn't get rid now because we're not actually in trouble yet and there's time to turn it around. But it's underwhelming so far and the pretty football isn't delivering. The alleged budget is not reflected in the league position. On the issue of posters who say 'and replace him with who?', followed no doubt by a smirk and a wise satisfied shrug of the shoulders, that's a bit like saying nobody in life should ever lose their job unless you have a replacement lined up already. Maybe the mysterious silent new owners are already putting out feelers? They certainly haven't backed him publicly or said he's the man they see as right for the job, as Wael did. But they don't say anything so nothing to be read into that, I suppose.Exactly, they don’t say anything about anything. Who knows? And in the end it’s them who will determine when anything happens. If anything does. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 8:39:51 GMT
The lack of communication is a bit of a worry, even Wael has gone to ground a bit and we know TG’s interview was scrapped.
They will have to speak to us soon if results don’t change, Evans would love to beat us and then we come to Cobblers and their manager who won’t need to do a team talk after the 7-0 last game of the season.
Some on here are right to be fair, he deserves the next two home games but even though we are not allowed to mention last seasons form, it reminds me of the Trolls 5-0 at Orient that night. I knew that evening he had run out of ideas whilst his senior pros were not what they used to be, Campbell etc and he relied on them so much. Barton is like this with Coutts and Finley, the latter can’t do it anymore and the new ones don’t work to his ways.
Barton spoke pragmatic and honest after the game, he couldn’t blame a Luke Thomas, even with the red we were already losing. He came across deflated, that’s Bonner, Ferguson, Manning and Maamria who have tactically outsmarted him, I think he’s ran out of ideas. I think a Cogs/Warnock/Wilder would make us hard to beat straight away, would play on winning the second ball more (not possession based football) and ask the likes of Finely to press for the ball. He’s ran out of ideas because he won’t change his principles, Bonner and Maamria were happy for us to have possession, Rodman kept saying that Burton only had 2 shots, same as Cambridge, they scout us and execute their tactics brilliantly.
This side is a DC side when he left and Cogs came in, Martin is your focal point, you change our style of play, make us hard to beat and we win more, a new guy gets more out of this lot.
We are obsessed with playing from the back Pep style, but we don’t have wingers or driving midfielders to break the lines. Do our fans not realise what the opposition are doing to us away from home, don’t they see theirs and our tactics?
At Oxford, same again, we should have been winning, we left the back door open, Bodin scores, we are not hard to beat and once we go behind we are easy to finish off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 8:48:44 GMT
The lack of communication is a bit of a worry, even Wael has gone to ground a bit and we know TG’s interview was scrapped. They will have to speak to us soon if results don’t change, Evans would love to beat us and then we come to Cobblers and their manager who won’t need to do a team talk after the 7-0 last game of the season. Some on here are right to be fair, he deserves the next two home games but even though we are not allowed to mention last seasons form, it reminds me of the Trolls 5-0 at Orient that night. I knew that evening he had run out of ideas whilst his senior pros were not what they used to be, Campbell etc and he relied on them so much. Barton is like this with Coutts and Finley, the latter can’t do it anymore and the new ones don’t work to his ways. Barton spoke pragmatic and honest after the game, he couldn’t blame a Luke Thomas, even with the red we were already losing. He came across deflated, that’s Bonner, Ferguson, Manning and Maamria who have tactically outsmarted him, I think he’s ran out of ideas. I think a Cogs/Warnock/Wilder would make us hard to beat straight away, would play on winning the second ball more (not possession based football) and ask the likes of Finely to press for the ball. He’s ran out of ideas because he won’t change his principles, Bonner and Maamria were happy for us to have possession, Rodman kept saying that Burton only had 2 shots, same as Cambridge, they scout us and execute their tactics brilliantly. This side is a DC side when he left and Cogs came in, Martin is your focal point, you change our style of play, make us hard to beat and we win more, a new guy gets more out of this lot. We are obsessed with playing from the back Pep style, but we don’t have wingers or driving midfielders to break the lines. Do our fans not realise what the opposition are doing to us away from home, don’t they see theirs and our tactics? At Oxford, same again, we should have been winning, we left the back door open, Bodin scores, we are not hard to beat and once we go behind we are easy to finish off. you may as well ring jurassic Park to see if they can provide a up to date list on your dinosaur thinking of management
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 8:52:21 GMT
The lack of communication is a bit of a worry, even Wael has gone to ground a bit and we know TG’s interview was scrapped. They will have to speak to us soon if results don’t change, Evans would love to beat us and then we come to Cobblers and their manager who won’t need to do a team talk after the 7-0 last game of the season. Some on here are right to be fair, he deserves the next two home games but even though we are not allowed to mention last seasons form, it reminds me of the Trolls 5-0 at Orient that night. I knew that evening he had run out of ideas whilst his senior pros were not what they used to be, Campbell etc and he relied on them so much. Barton is like this with Coutts and Finley, the latter can’t do it anymore and the new ones don’t work to his ways. Barton spoke pragmatic and honest after the game, he couldn’t blame a Luke Thomas, even with the red we were already losing. He came across deflated, that’s Bonner, Ferguson, Manning and Maamria who have tactically outsmarted him, I think he’s ran out of ideas. I think a Cogs/Warnock/Wilder would make us hard to beat straight away, would play on winning the second ball more (not possession based football) and ask the likes of Finely to press for the ball. He’s ran out of ideas because he won’t change his principles, Bonner and Maamria were happy for us to have possession, Rodman kept saying that Burton only had 2 shots, same as Cambridge, they scout us and execute their tactics brilliantly. This side is a DC side when he left and Cogs came in, Martin is your focal point, you change our style of play, make us hard to beat and we win more, a new guy gets more out of this lot. We are obsessed with playing from the back Pep style, but we don’t have wingers or driving midfielders to break the lines. Do our fans not realise what the opposition are doing to us away from home, don’t they see theirs and our tactics? At Oxford, same again, we should have been winning, we left the back door open, Bodin scores, we are not hard to beat and once we go behind we are easy to finish off. you may as well ring jurassic Park to see if they can provide a up to date list on your dinosaur thinking of management See, you’ve been quite personal a few times with roady now…it makes you look like a twat, not him.
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