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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 23, 2023 20:50:25 GMT
Think it's a bit more complex than that! Results had been pretty much awful since the turn of the year, we didn't really look like we were really moving forwards on the pitch - more stagnated at best. And I really don't believe JB was sacked purely based on results anyway. Not having it. Maybe in part but - regardless of what the owners say - I'd put my home on it being at least part driven by his horrendous outbursts (and probably largely down to that in reality). The new owners didnt mention last season though did they. Their decision was on this seasons investment.As they said joe is joe we all know what he says. They could have sacked him on day one were it down to his misjudged comments. They could hardly say although both parties signed on NDA forbidding disclosure of the reasons JB left I can confirm that he opened his mouth once to often and we got rid of him w/o paying him anything in compo?? What's odd for somebody who's been so outspoken is how he went so quietly, either we bought his silence or he messed up himself.
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Post by Sir Trevor B'Sol on Nov 23, 2023 21:09:57 GMT
Which is your personal favourite?
1. Enjoy the SILENCE * Depeche Mode.
2. Sounds of SILENCE * Simon & Garfunkel.
3. SILENCE is Golden * Four Seasons.
4. Delirium - SILENCE * Sarah McLachlan.
Other alternatives are available.
If someone suggested that someone was playing a blinder, (in two stages), would someone reply "SILENCE is beneficial."
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Post by madgas on Nov 23, 2023 21:28:10 GMT
Heard on the pod I mentioned the other day- most "severance" for football managers is a year regardless of contract length.
I don't buy this being the reasoning.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Nov 23, 2023 22:10:27 GMT
Word on the jungle gym is some potential gaffers aren’t keen on working with existing staff.
Whilst the new owners comments in this regard are noble and absolutely the right direction, most if not all managers want to bring in at least a number 2. Might be legs in it?
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Post by pirate on Nov 23, 2023 22:36:12 GMT
Word on the jungle gym is some potential gaffers aren’t keen on working with existing staff. Whilst the new owners comments in this regard are noble and absolutely the right direction, most if not all managers want to bring in at least a number 2. Might be legs in it? The thought has crossed my mind. But even if we were employing own own staff, surely the new manager would be allowed to bring in an assistant who he trusts? Who will be making these football decision appointments anyway, the banker or the builder? I'd be much more relaxed if I knew we had a director of football (independent of the previous manager) or someone with football nous making these structural decisions and appointments or at least a big say in them.
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Post by eric on Nov 24, 2023 7:31:11 GMT
Which is your personal favourite? 1. Enjoy the SILENCE * Depeche Mode. 2. Sounds of SILENCE * Simon & Garfunkel. 3. SILENCE is Golden * Four Seasons. 4. Delirium - SILENCE * Sarah McLachlan. Other alternatives are available. If someone suggested that someone was playing a blinder, (in two stages), would someone reply "SILENCE is beneficial." Shaddap You Face - Joe Dolce
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 24, 2023 9:16:41 GMT
Which is your personal favourite? 1. Enjoy the SILENCE * Depeche Mode. 2. Sounds of SILENCE * Simon & Garfunkel. 3. SILENCE is Golden * Four Seasons. 4. Delirium - SILENCE * Sarah McLachlan. Other alternatives are available. If someone suggested that someone was playing a blinder, (in two stages), would someone reply "SILENCE is beneficial." Shaddap You Face - Joe Dolce What's the piece of music that is 10 minutes of silence? That one.
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Post by TAGas on Nov 24, 2023 9:43:43 GMT
Word on the jungle gym is some potential gaffers aren’t keen on working with existing staff. Whilst the new owners comments in this regard are noble and absolutely the right direction, most if not all managers want to bring in at least a number 2. Might be legs in it? The thought has crossed my mind. But even if we were employing own own staff, surely the new manager would be allowed to bring in an assistant who he trusts? Who will be making these football decision appointments anyway, the banker or the builder? I'd be much more relaxed if I knew we had a director of football (independent of the previous manager) or someone with football nous making these structural decisions and appointments or at least a big say in them. I agree, a new manager should be able to bring in his own no.2 as surely it helps on the trainijg ground and will make the transition much quicker. If Barton gets another job, Mangan will leave anyway or he may leave if he doesn't get the managers job.
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Post by twertongas on Nov 24, 2023 9:53:16 GMT
My one worry here bar the amount of time taken is that if we appoint someone of a higher calibre than normal I.e Monk, that we become expectant. We are still Bristol Rovers albeit with a new stand.
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Post by gasmania on Nov 24, 2023 9:56:35 GMT
Word on the jungle gym is some potential gaffers aren’t keen on working with existing staff. Whilst the new owners comments in this regard are noble and absolutely the right direction, most if not all managers want to bring in at least a number 2. Might be legs in it? Certainly sounds plausible, would think the more experienced managers are more likely to have a settled team around them that they have built trust with over the years. Whereas younger inexperienced managers probably don't have that so are more happy to be given it by the club initially. Not necessarily the case for all but could definitely see that being something which might be a sticking point. Would mean the owners having to decide which bit they'd compromise on their ideal checklist.
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Post by gasbath on Nov 24, 2023 10:12:29 GMT
Word on the jungle gym is some potential gaffers aren’t keen on working with existing staff. Whilst the new owners comments in this regard are noble and absolutely the right direction, most if not all managers want to bring in at least a number 2. Might be legs in it? From Memory I thought there was big beef between Matt Taylor and JB and the backroom staff a few seasons ago. So wouldn't be surprised if that was a stumbling block. I would imagine also if AM doesn't get the gig when JB gets another managers job they will all be off.
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Post by bathtubpirate on Nov 24, 2023 10:45:50 GMT
My one worry here bar the amount of time taken is that if we appoint someone of a higher calibre than normal I.e Monk, that we become expectant. We are still Bristol Rovers albeit with a new stand. Though we also now seem to have a wages budget in the top third of the league.
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Post by buckaroo on Nov 24, 2023 10:49:22 GMT
Shaddap You Face - Joe Dolce What's the piece of music that is 10 minutes of silence? That one. You probably mean 4’33” by John Cage. ‘Written’ in 1952.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 24, 2023 11:17:04 GMT
Word on the jungle gym is some potential gaffers aren’t keen on working with existing staff. Whilst the new owners comments in this regard are noble and absolutely the right direction, most if not all managers want to bring in at least a number 2. Might be legs in it? From Memory I thought there was big beef between Matt Taylor and JB and the backroom staff a few seasons ago. So wouldn't be surprised if that was a stumbling block. I would imagine also if AM doesn't get the gig when JB gets another managers job they will all be off. Matt Taylor Shrewsbury (41) Matt Taylor Exeter / Rotherham (also 41) Matty (the twatty) Taylor Can’t these players / managers take on a nickname to help us distinguish between them when we try and figure out who Barton fell out with and when?
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Post by Russgas on Nov 24, 2023 12:46:28 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67518209Bristol Rovers interim boss Andy Mangan said he understands fans will be "frustrated" at the time taken for a permanent manager to be appointed. Former assistant manager Mangan has been in charge since Joey Barton was sacked on 26 October. However, the team are unbeaten under his leadership with two wins and two draws in League One and victories in the FA Cup and EFL Trophy. Rovers visit Derby on Saturday before hosting Leyton Orient on Tuesday. "I understand the fans are going to be frustrated, it's taking its time," Mangan told BBC Radio Bristol. "But week by week, as the weeks go on I think performances have got better, performances have increased. "So many positives, we've got so many players back from injury so the club is really on the up. For myself, [I'm] very proud to be asked to lead the team." Bristol Rovers have a number of players available for the visit to Pride Park, including Grant Ward and Connor Taylor, while Luca Hoole and Luke McCormick have both been training after injury. "I've just got to prepare the team as best we can. The staff have been fantastic and the players have been amazing and we've just got to go to Derby and put a performance out that the players first and foremost will be proud of but also the travelling fans," Mangan said. "Everyone at the club has really rallied round and done fantastic. I think the players need to take an awful lot of credit because it's all about the players at the end of the day."
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 24, 2023 12:55:28 GMT
From Memory I thought there was big beef between Matt Taylor and JB and the backroom staff a few seasons ago. So wouldn't be surprised if that was a stumbling block. I would imagine also if AM doesn't get the gig when JB gets another managers job they will all be off. Matt Taylor Shrewsbury (41) Matt Taylor Exeter / Rotherham (also 41) Matty (the twatty) Taylor Can’t these players / managers take on a nickname to help us distinguish between them when we try and figure out who Barton fell out with and when? The snake is easy, as only a total arsehole would refer to themselves as 'Matty' imo. The 2 Matt's are a bit trickier, both talk a good game but only one has shown any degree of management ability. Competent Matt and Incompetent Matt?..i doubt Rotherham fans will agree though!
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Post by rovers78 on Nov 24, 2023 13:08:37 GMT
Word on the jungle gym is some potential gaffers aren’t keen on working with existing staff. Whilst the new owners comments in this regard are noble and absolutely the right direction, most if not all managers want to bring in at least a number 2. Might be legs in it? More Honest truth is we probably can’t afford to sack them all and replace them with a new managers preferred staff, so they have to stay. Hence why it’ll be Mangan.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 24, 2023 13:50:52 GMT
Word on the jungle gym is some potential gaffers aren’t keen on working with existing staff. Whilst the new owners comments in this regard are noble and absolutely the right direction, most if not all managers want to bring in at least a number 2. Might be legs in it? More Honest truth is we probably can’t afford to sack them all and replace them with a new managers preferred staff, so they have to stay. Hence why it’ll be Mangan. May as well have stuck with Barton then if that's the case. Although im sure the last straw with him was when he bad mouthed Steve Evans, which most of the footballing world has done at some point
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Post by bobbyjones on Nov 24, 2023 14:43:57 GMT
Barton was, and still is, an arrogant bully.
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Post by bambergashead on Nov 24, 2023 14:49:57 GMT
In case anyone was wondering why I was saying 'It'll Be Interesting To See Who They Eventually Appoint' here is the reference from 1985.
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