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Post by breadman1977 on Nov 24, 2023 15:07:14 GMT
He’s delusional if he thinks week by week performances have got better
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Post by bobbyjones on Nov 24, 2023 15:10:18 GMT
Not lost yet have we.
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Post by Sir Trevor B'Sol on Nov 24, 2023 15:21:05 GMT
Any thoughts on the probable financial cost of appointing an external manager?
Which of these might A.N.O. demand?
1. NEW Assistant Gaffer. 2. NEW Director of Football. 3. NEW First Team Coach. 4. NEW Defensive Coach. 5. NEW Goalkeeping Coach. 6. NEW Technical Coach. 7. NEW Head of Sports Science. 8. NEW Head of Medical. 9. NEW Video Analyst. 10. NEW Head of Performance. 11. NEW Set-Play Coach. 12. NEW Chief Scout. 13. NEW Director of Recruitment. 14. NEW Data Analyst. 15. NEW Kit Manager. 16. NEW Fitness Coach. 17. NEW Club Nutritionist. 18. NEW Director of Technical Operations.
Of course, many of these could require either an assistant or a team of staff working alongside them.
External management change is not cheap.
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Post by yattongas on Nov 24, 2023 15:22:30 GMT
He’s delusional if he thinks week by week performances have got better Results have though and ultimately that’s what counts.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 24, 2023 15:40:39 GMT
In case anyone was wondering why I was saying 'It'll Be Interesting To See Who They Eventually Appoint' here is the reference from 1985. Phone boxes!!! What are they? 😉 UTG!
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 24, 2023 15:48:54 GMT
In case anyone was wondering why I was saying 'It'll Be Interesting To See Who They Eventually Appoint' here is the reference from 1985. Phone boxes!!! What are they? 😉 UTG! Boxes that phones come in when you buy one…..
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Post by aghast on Nov 24, 2023 17:16:16 GMT
Word on the jungle gym is some potential gaffers aren’t keen on working with existing staff. Whilst the new owners comments in this regard are noble and absolutely the right direction, most if not all managers want to bring in at least a number 2. Might be legs in it? More Honest truth is we probably can’t afford to sack them all and replace them with a new managers preferred staff, so they have to stay. Hence why it’ll be Mangan. Isn't it the case that all the backroom staff at any club are not the choice of the new manager? Yet multiple clubs seem to appoint new managers and manage to handle this issue on a regular basis.
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 24, 2023 20:11:16 GMT
Any thoughts on the probable financial cost of appointing an external manager? Which of these might A.N.O. demand? 1. NEW Assistant Gaffer. 2. NEW Director of Football. 3. NEW First Team Coach. 4. NEW Defensive Coach. 5. NEW Goalkeeping Coach. 6. NEW Technical Coach. 7. NEW Head of Sports Science. 8. NEW Head of Medical. 9. NEW Video Analyst. 10. NEW Head of Performance. 11. NEW Set-Play Coach. 12. NEW Chief Scout. 13. NEW Director of Recruitment. 14. NEW Data Analyst. 15. NEW Kit Manager. 16. NEW Fitness Coach. 17. NEW Club Nutritionist. 18. NEW Director of Technical Operations. Of course, many of these could require either an assistant or a team of staff working alongside them. External management change is not cheap. Which is why clubs would prefer backroom staff to stay with a club despite changes in manager. However there are a couple of problems... if a former manager gets a new job then he tends to want his own people to rejoin him. Sometimes such staff will then try antics to get sacked/released from their contract and get a pay-off to rejoin the manager at a new club. With the JB situation, he's unlikely to get a job in management as good as he had at Rovers and therefore the best and perhaps only option his staff have is to try to make a go of it at Rovers. Another issue is that a new manager may ignore existing staff at a club so to replace them with his own people.
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Post by percy on Nov 24, 2023 20:17:46 GMT
I think I’m ready for Mangan to be appointed.
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Post by phillistine on Nov 24, 2023 20:32:53 GMT
He’s delusional if he thinks week by week performances have got better Have you ever heard of psychology? He recognises that if you boost the teams confidence and self belief then they will perform better. We have a talented team of players who just lack self belief
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Post by albaron on Nov 24, 2023 21:08:45 GMT
I think I’m ready for Mangan to be appointed. I think if you're right there will be a lot of poorish players in our squad that will be very happy. Can't see him getting rid of any players that have backed him.
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Post by pudseygas on Nov 24, 2023 21:20:00 GMT
He’s delusional if he thinks week by week performances have got better Have you ever heard of psychology? He recognises that if you boost the teams confidence and self belief then they will perform better. We have a talented team of players who just lack self belief It's what got us promoted (along with EA). The belief in that squad of players towards the end of the season was unreal
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 24, 2023 22:12:53 GMT
I think I’m ready for Mangan to be appointed. I agree. Not because I think he's the stand out candidate. It's because I'm bored shitless of waiting for a appointment now when we have people making the decisions who don't seem to have a clue about football and until we get that structure in the club then why not stick with someone we know. 🤷
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Post by yattongas on Nov 24, 2023 22:27:03 GMT
If we’re going to give him the job I hope he’s backed in the transfer market the same a named manager would be .
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 24, 2023 22:35:32 GMT
If we’re going to give him the job I hope he’s backed in the transfer market the same a named manager would be . If the new owners are serious about a top 6 push why wouldn't they back him the same? I guess Mangan has the advantage of knowing how JB was likely to be backed in January?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 24, 2023 22:36:45 GMT
I think I’m ready for Mangan to be appointed. I agree. Not because I think he's the stand out candidate. It's because I'm bored shitless of waiting for a appointment now when we have people making the decisions who don't seem to have a clue about football and until we get that structure in the club then why not stick with someone we know. 🤷 They had enough "clue" to know JB wasn't getting the best from the squad he'd put together?
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Nov 24, 2023 23:39:31 GMT
Either that or there was a ‘ bust up ‘ of some description I don’t personally believe that any ‘ state of the quality of play ‘ had anything to do with joe’s sacking 🤔💙Utg
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Nov 24, 2023 23:40:53 GMT
Joe’s days were numbered when wael lost complete control, I m o 💙utg
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Post by scottleroc on Nov 25, 2023 2:18:28 GMT
I know this sounds a bit mean spirited but I don’t want AM as the next full time manager. He’s a poor man’s Barton and a mentor of JB. I can’t see that performances have improved and I think JB would have got the same results in the fixtures we’ve had.
I was indifferent about JB but if he wasn’t good enough for the club then I don’t think AM is.
Usual caveat of ‘I hope I am proven wrong’ etc etc……
I can’t see that we will appoint anyone else now though but it’s becoming bizarre and worrying that the owners can’t make a decision!
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Post by js67 on Nov 25, 2023 6:03:05 GMT
Either that or there was a ‘ bust up ‘ of some description I don’t personally believe that any ‘ state of the quality of play ‘ had anything to do with joe’s sacking 🤔💙Utg 100% JB walked along with Jennings, not sacked, the reasons will be public before the seasons out I'd imagine
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