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Post by RD on Oct 27, 2023 6:29:14 GMT
Dean Holden managed and was assistant for the sh** and knows the area? Wouldn't be suprised if he was one of the interviewed parties. Jesus Christ no!!!! |
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Post by gashead4ever on Oct 27, 2023 6:50:42 GMT
If dean Holden steps anywhere near the club there should be hell to pay
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Post by mftc on Oct 27, 2023 6:57:29 GMT
I wonder what the impact would be 35 odd years ago if the forum and social media existed when we announcemend a new manager, on the cheap, whose previous experience was one season getting a team relegated.
Step forward Gerry Francis.
Past performance doesn't mean the same thing is going to happen. Didn't Buckle have something like two play offs and promotion on his CV and Dobson had several top ten finishes before he joined us.
Sometimes a manager (and player) fits a club like a glove. Other times it doesn't, but no doubt what looks perfect on paper beforehand hardly ever is.
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Post by kruger on Oct 27, 2023 7:01:37 GMT
If dean Holden steps anywhere near the club there should be hell to pay Whoever we get we'll get what we deserve now, I have no faith in Rovers |
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 7:55:41 GMT
If dean Holden steps anywhere near the club there should be hell to pay Whoever we get we'll get what we deserve now, I have no faith in RoversWhat does that mean? No faith in the team? No faith in the board? No faith in the owners? No faith in the yet to be decided manager? What a silly thing to say. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 27, 2023 8:24:37 GMT
Been awake since 0430 this morning (an ill son induced bit of insomnia) so I have been looking into manager stats and watching a few videos of their teams. Sad I know.
There is one outstanding candidate for me which would require us paying compensation for, who at every club he has been at has achieved play offs and promotions at every single club he has been at is Dave Challinor. Overall win % of 53.6% over 685 games. 5 promotions at NL and EFL level. 4 play off achievements and 2 trophy wins as well as 3 manager of the year awards throught the NL levels. Interviewed for the Charlton job but unsure if he turned it down or didnt get it, either way he is "the" outstanding candidate. Plays lovely football from the back with an emphasis of overloading the boxes from the flanks.
Andy Whing at Solihull Moors is another brilliant candidate but lacks in experience. 136 games as a manager and a 52.9% win rate he got Banbury promoted as champions from the SL and stabalised them in the NLN before taking over at Solihull Moors lifting them from lower mid table/relegation places to competing in the top 4 on a very modest budget. Manager of the month for August. Will certainly find himself as a manager inside the EFL this year and has a similar playing style to Ian Evatt at Bolton.
Of the frees linked:
John Eustace - A total of 173 games as a manager with a 45% win rate is an extremely good return achieving a 53% win rate at Kidderminster and getting them into the NL play offs 2 seasons in a row being dubbed the "Barcelona of the NL". Turned Birmingham City from being perennial relegation candidates to a midtable finish in his first season he had them sat 6th in the table when he was replaced by Wayne Rooney. A manager who plays out from the back but with an emphasis of a strong defence (being a defender himself) A prime candidate which we should be approaching at the very least.
Neil Harris, although blotting his copybook at Gillingham, both Millwall and Cardiff havent had managers with a win % as high as Harris's since he was there. Both suffering of high expectations of challenging at the sharp ends of the leagues, Cardiff in particular have shown up to be perennial championship strugglers since. An overall win % of 39.3 from 400 games is a decent return. I'm not sure he is the right fit for us.
Leam Richardson - A win % of 38.71 seems low but doesnt tell all of his story. A torrid time at Accrington Stanley started his managerial career but became Paul Cooks assistant at Chesterfield, Portsmouth and Wigan winning 2 promotions as his assistant. Won L1 manager of the season and promotion with Wigan in 21/22. A good candidate who plays a very attacking style of football. Definately one we should look at.
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Post by gassedOut on Oct 27, 2023 8:24:52 GMT
Interesting, Robbie Fowler was relieved of his duties last night from his 2nd Division Saudi side last night, I wonder if his hat will get thrown into the ring? strange as well seeing he made an unbeaten start in the league. Who knows, it may even be off the back of our news?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 8:33:38 GMT
I’d be interesting in Mark Hughes, our ex player and Plymouth assistant manager.
He’s played under John Coleman and Barton, more importantly Schumacher and Plymouth are doing things every so well down there.
He would know a lot of the squad, knows the club, used to working for clubs with limited resources.
I look at Arteta and the new Leicester Manager, both worked under Pep, both gone onto be good managers. Schumacher obviously is a good manager, promotions with two different clubs, maybe Mark Hughes has learned from him, he has leadership skills as well being a captain on his playing days.
Sometimes going left field works
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 27, 2023 8:36:31 GMT
I’d be interesting in Mark Hughes, our ex player and Plymouth assistant manager. He’s played under John Coleman and Barton, more importantly Schumacher and Plymouth are doing things every so well down there. He would know a lot of the squad, knows the club, used to working for clubs with limited resources. I look at Arteta and the new Leicester Manager, both worked under Pep, both gone onto be good managers. Schumacher obviously is a good manager, promotions with two different clubs, maybe Mark Hughes has learned from him, he has leadership skills as well being a captain on his playing days. Sometimes going left field works Maybe, but would you want a rookie as a manager right now? I'm not sure I would. With the squad we have I want someone with proven experience who has a promotion or 2 on their CV. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 27, 2023 8:40:38 GMT
From a purely footballing perspective, Roy Keane was every bit as much of a thug as JB. No thanks. Maybe on the pitch but not close to JB with court cases. Seems to have matured a lot. Would certainly be an imposing figure |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 8:43:58 GMT
Most managers get a job when the previous manager has been sacked. The example of this is the Leicester City manager now,
Carrick at Boro, Trolls with us, he was a player with us but Hughes knows a lot of the squad and even Wilson last season at Plymouth.
To me experience is also Dave Penney, McGhee etc.
You can go both ways on this, we are not in a Shrews position and bringing in Cotteril or Warnock at Udders. This is a man taking over a half decent squad, with 13 games gone and a good window in front of them in January
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 27, 2023 8:46:31 GMT
Been awake since 0430 this morning (an ill son induced bit of insomnia) so I have been looking into manager stats and watching a few videos of their teams. Sad I know. There is one outstanding candidate for me which would require us paying compensation for, who at every club he has been at has achieved play offs and promotions at every single club he has been at is Dave Challinor. Overall win % of 53.6% over 685 games. 5 promotions at NL and EFL level. 4 play off achievements and 2 trophy wins as well as 3 manager of the year awards throught the NL levels. Interviewed for the Charlton job but unsure if he turned it down or didnt get it, either way he is "the" outstanding candidate. Plays lovely football from the back with an emphasis of overloading the boxes from the flanks. Andy Whing at Solihull Moors is another brilliant candidate but lacks in experience. 136 games as a manager and a 52.9% win rate he got Banbury promoted as champions from the SL and stabalised them in the NLN before taking over at Solihull Moors lifting them from lower mid table/relegation places to competing in the top 4 on a very modest budget. Manager of the month for August. Will certainly find himself as a manager inside the EFL this year and has a similar playing style to Ian Evatt at Bolton. Of the frees linked: John Eustace - A total of 173 games as a manager with a 45% win rate is an extremely good return achieving a 53% win rate at Kidderminster and getting them into the NL play offs 2 seasons in a row being dubbed the "Barcelona of the NL". Turned Birmingham City from being perennial relegation candidates to a midtable finish in his first season he had them sat 6th in the table when he was replaced by Wayne Rooney. A manager who plays out from the back but with an emphasis of a strong defence (being a defender himself) A prime candidate which we should be approaching at the very least. Neil Harris, although blotting his copybook at Gillingham, both Millwall and Cardiff havent had managers with a win % as high as Harris's since he was there. Both suffering of high expectations of challenging at the sharp ends of the leagues, Cardiff in particular have shown up to be perennial championship strugglers since. An overall win % of 39.3 from 400 games is a decent return. I'm not sure he is the right fit for us. Leam Richardson - A win % of 38.71 seems low but doesnt tell all of his story. A torrid time at Accrington Stanley started his managerial career but became Paul Cooks assistant at Chesterfield, Portsmouth and Wigan winning 2 promotions as his assistant. Won L1 manager of the season and promotion with Wigan in 21/22. A good candidate who plays a very attacking style of football. Definately one we should look at. This is my kind of experience and the type of experienced manager we should be going after mate. If you want a rookie, then Id look at Whing. |
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Post by pucklegas on Oct 27, 2023 8:52:20 GMT
I dont know whether he would drop to league 1, but Dean Smith is a decent manager, based in the Midlands would he like a challenge!
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Post by baggins on Oct 27, 2023 8:54:56 GMT
Been awake since 0430 this morning (an ill son induced bit of insomnia) so I have been looking into manager stats and watching a few videos of their teams. Sad I know. There is one outstanding candidate for me which would require us paying compensation for, who at every club he has been at has achieved play offs and promotions at every single club he has been at is Dave Challinor. Overall win % of 53.6% over 685 games. 5 promotions at NL and EFL level. 4 play off achievements and 2 trophy wins as well as 3 manager of the year awards throught the NL levels. Interviewed for the Charlton job but unsure if he turned it down or didnt get it, either way he is "the" outstanding candidate. Plays lovely football from the back with an emphasis of overloading the boxes from the flanks. Andy Whing at Solihull Moors is another brilliant candidate but lacks in experience. 136 games as a manager and a 52.9% win rate he got Banbury promoted as champions from the SL and stabalised them in the NLN before taking over at Solihull Moors lifting them from lower mid table/relegation places to competing in the top 4 on a very modest budget. Manager of the month for August. Will certainly find himself as a manager inside the EFL this year and has a similar playing style to Ian Evatt at Bolton. Of the frees linked: John Eustace - A total of 173 games as a manager with a 45% win rate is an extremely good return achieving a 53% win rate at Kidderminster and getting them into the NL play offs 2 seasons in a row being dubbed the "Barcelona of the NL". Turned Birmingham City from being perennial relegation candidates to a midtable finish in his first season he had them sat 6th in the table when he was replaced by Wayne Rooney. A manager who plays out from the back but with an emphasis of a strong defence (being a defender himself) A prime candidate which we should be approaching at the very least. Neil Harris, although blotting his copybook at Gillingham, both Millwall and Cardiff havent had managers with a win % as high as Harris's since he was there. Both suffering of high expectations of challenging at the sharp ends of the leagues, Cardiff in particular have shown up to be perennial championship strugglers since. An overall win % of 39.3 from 400 games is a decent return. I'm not sure he is the right fit for us. Leam Richardson - A win % of 38.71 seems low but doesnt tell all of his story. A torrid time at Accrington Stanley started his managerial career but became Paul Cooks assistant at Chesterfield, Portsmouth and Wigan winning 2 promotions as his assistant. Won L1 manager of the season and promotion with Wigan in 21/22. A good candidate who plays a very attacking style of football. Definately one we should look at. This is my kind of experience and the type of experienced manager we should be going after mate. If you want a rookie, then Id look at Whing. Chatting to yourself again Chap? |
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Post by pirate on Oct 27, 2023 9:00:06 GMT
Been awake since 0430 this morning (an ill son induced bit of insomnia) so I have been looking into manager stats and watching a few videos of their teams. Sad I know. There is one outstanding candidate for me which would require us paying compensation for, who at every club he has been at has achieved play offs and promotions at every single club he has been at is Dave Challinor. Overall win % of 53.6% over 685 games. 5 promotions at NL and EFL level. 4 play off achievements and 2 trophy wins as well as 3 manager of the year awards throught the NL levels. Interviewed for the Charlton job but unsure if he turned it down or didnt get it, either way he is "the" outstanding candidate. Plays lovely football from the back with an emphasis of overloading the boxes from the flanks. Andy Whing at Solihull Moors is another brilliant candidate but lacks in experience. 136 games as a manager and a 52.9% win rate he got Banbury promoted as champions from the SL and stabalised them in the NLN before taking over at Solihull Moors lifting them from lower mid table/relegation places to competing in the top 4 on a very modest budget. Manager of the month for August. Will certainly find himself as a manager inside the EFL this year and has a similar playing style to Ian Evatt at Bolton. Of the frees linked: John Eustace - A total of 173 games as a manager with a 45% win rate is an extremely good return achieving a 53% win rate at Kidderminster and getting them into the NL play offs 2 seasons in a row being dubbed the "Barcelona of the NL". Turned Birmingham City from being perennial relegation candidates to a midtable finish in his first season he had them sat 6th in the table when he was replaced by Wayne Rooney. A manager who plays out from the back but with an emphasis of a strong defence (being a defender himself) A prime candidate which we should be approaching at the very least. Neil Harris, although blotting his copybook at Gillingham, both Millwall and Cardiff havent had managers with a win % as high as Harris's since he was there. Both suffering of high expectations of challenging at the sharp ends of the leagues, Cardiff in particular have shown up to be perennial championship strugglers since. An overall win % of 39.3 from 400 games is a decent return. I'm not sure he is the right fit for us. Leam Richardson - A win % of 38.71 seems low but doesnt tell all of his story. A torrid time at Accrington Stanley started his managerial career but became Paul Cooks assistant at Chesterfield, Portsmouth and Wigan winning 2 promotions as his assistant. Won L1 manager of the season and promotion with Wigan in 21/22. A good candidate who plays a very attacking style of football. Definately one we should look at. This is my kind of experience and the type of experienced manager we should be going after mate. If you want a rookie, then Id look at Whing. All decent shouts and I think Kevin Phillips would also be worth an interview. Worked as assistant first team coach at Leicester City for the club's first season back in the Premier League and then appointed as assistant coach to Paul Clement at Derby County, before first-team coach to Gary Rowett at Stoke City. Cut his management teeth at South Shields, winning the Northern Premier League title during 22/23 and left them with a 58% win percentage having won 40 games, drawing 14 and losing 15 games from 69 games played. |
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Oct 27, 2023 9:03:03 GMT
1) John Eustace 2) Paul cook 3) Gary Rowett Hard No's 1) Carl Robinson 2) Steve Cotterell 3)Dean Holden Dean Holden as of 27/10 at 10am Now 2/1 on as our next manager. I'll be gutted if he gets it. |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 27, 2023 9:04:15 GMT
Been awake since 0430 this morning (an ill son induced bit of insomnia) so I have been looking into manager stats and watching a few videos of their teams. Sad I know. There is one outstanding candidate for me which would require us paying compensation for, who at every club he has been at has achieved play offs and promotions at every single club he has been at is Dave Challinor. Overall win % of 53.6% over 685 games. 5 promotions at NL and EFL level. 4 play off achievements and 2 trophy wins as well as 3 manager of the year awards throught the NL levels. Interviewed for the Charlton job but unsure if he turned it down or didnt get it, either way he is "the" outstanding candidate. Plays lovely football from the back with an emphasis of overloading the boxes from the flanks. Andy Whing at Solihull Moors is another brilliant candidate but lacks in experience. 136 games as a manager and a 52.9% win rate he got Banbury promoted as champions from the SL and stabalised them in the NLN before taking over at Solihull Moors lifting them from lower mid table/relegation places to competing in the top 4 on a very modest budget. Manager of the month for August. Will certainly find himself as a manager inside the EFL this year and has a similar playing style to Ian Evatt at Bolton. Of the frees linked: John Eustace - A total of 173 games as a manager with a 45% win rate is an extremely good return achieving a 53% win rate at Kidderminster and getting them into the NL play offs 2 seasons in a row being dubbed the "Barcelona of the NL". Turned Birmingham City from being perennial relegation candidates to a midtable finish in his first season he had them sat 6th in the table when he was replaced by Wayne Rooney. A manager who plays out from the back but with an emphasis of a strong defence (being a defender himself) A prime candidate which we should be approaching at the very least. Neil Harris, although blotting his copybook at Gillingham, both Millwall and Cardiff havent had managers with a win % as high as Harris's since he was there. Both suffering of high expectations of challenging at the sharp ends of the leagues, Cardiff in particular have shown up to be perennial championship strugglers since. An overall win % of 39.3 from 400 games is a decent return. I'm not sure he is the right fit for us. Leam Richardson - A win % of 38.71 seems low but doesnt tell all of his story. A torrid time at Accrington Stanley started his managerial career but became Paul Cooks assistant at Chesterfield, Portsmouth and Wigan winning 2 promotions as his assistant. Won L1 manager of the season and promotion with Wigan in 21/22. A good candidate who plays a very attacking style of football. Definately one we should look at. I'd be very surprised by Dave Challinor, Stockport are on an upward curve and he's never spent any time during his near 30 year career South of Stockport. Whing I find very interesting, success wherever he's gone during his short career but would be a big punt with his experience. It could absolutely work though, especially if we went down the route of a Trolls & Lennie scenario. Eustice will get a Championship job soon imo. Harris's stats at Gillingham are slightly skewed by what a mess they were when he took over. Wouldn't be against him, quite a boring but solid appointment. Richardson could be interesting, but again has never worked down South... |
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Post by socrates on Oct 27, 2023 9:04:21 GMT
Need someone proven at the higher end of this level. Another Garner type appointment and I’ll be fuming. Cotteril fits that mould he’s won a promotion from this league but I really hope we don’t get him in. Can’t stand him. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 27, 2023 9:13:33 GMT
This is my kind of experience and the type of experienced manager we should be going after mate. If you want a rookie, then Id look at Whing. Chatting to yourself again Chap? Its the only way I get any sense out of anyone... |
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Post by gasmania on Oct 27, 2023 9:14:24 GMT
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