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Post by bravosierraseven on Oct 31, 2023 13:01:52 GMT
As I said on another post, the East was built as a bit of a favour/thank you to the Rugby club for selling the land on which Trubshaw Close is built very cheaply. So it’s hardly surprising that the thing is unfit for purpose and it was probably unfit for purpose back in 1987. Pretty sure trubshaw close was built around 20 years after the east stand was built? Not quite that long. As far as I remember the developer bought the option on the land for about £500,000 which I believe paid for the centenery stand. It did take quite a while after to get planning through for Trubshaw close. Edit. Just saw the other posts. Didn't realise Trubshaw close was built that much later. |
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Post by hartcliffegas on Oct 31, 2023 13:21:19 GMT
There’d be no point doing something like that. How would it bring in more money for the club? Yeah there’s 3/4 games a season where we might need the extra capacity. In that case spend the money on an actually nice North stand with bigger bars, restaurants and a larger capacity so you’ve got a 13 or 14k capacity. It’s so important we get the North and East stands right, I’d rather we waited longer, saved up transfer fees, grants and even fundraiser among fans if we ended up with a couple of stands to be proud of. I will join local residents and vote against any proposal to add north/south ‘add ons’ to the existing east stand Chernobyl structure - hopefully BCC will throw it out if plans are submitted based on this. A total ‘bodge up’ if this is the proposed way forward if as seems likely, the Memorial Stadium is to be our permanent home for generations to come. As you say this needs to be right - imo the east stand needs to be totally demolished - and I’m a current user. Are you going to pay for this? |
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Post by keygas on Oct 31, 2023 13:24:42 GMT
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Post by blueridge on Oct 31, 2023 13:36:45 GMT
I will join local residents and vote against any proposal to add north/south ‘add ons’ to the existing east stand Chernobyl structure - hopefully BCC will throw it out if plans are submitted based on this. A total ‘bodge up’ if this is the proposed way forward if as seems likely, the Memorial Stadium is to be our permanent home for generations to come. As you say this needs to be right - imo the east stand needs to be totally demolished - and I’m a current user. Are you going to pay for this? Partly! |
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Post by Marshy on Oct 31, 2023 14:33:46 GMT
After over 50 years we have finally decided to polish the turd 😂 Come on Marshy! When you remove the turd from the grass it changes into a clean piece of grass again, after some rain. Let’s hope the plans include removing the crap and building something decent. And anyway it may be a turd, but it’s our turd. 👍😉 UTG! Ha ha I love the Mem it’s a shame it wasn’t started in 2007 was it? You know when we were all choosing our seats at Cheltenham for the season, that went well 😤 |
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Post by tommym9 on Oct 31, 2023 14:34:32 GMT
I will join local residents and vote against any proposal to add north/south ‘add ons’ to the existing east stand Chernobyl structure - hopefully BCC will throw it out if plans are submitted based on this. A total ‘bodge up’ if this is the proposed way forward if as seems likely, the Memorial Stadium is to be our permanent home for generations to come. As you say this needs to be right - imo the east stand needs to be totally demolished - and I’m a current user. Are you going to pay for this? Just bought two toddler kits from the club shop, I reckon that will cover the majority of it! |
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Post by playtowin on Oct 31, 2023 15:11:52 GMT
There’d be no point doing something like that. How would it bring in more money for the club? Yeah there’s 3/4 games a season where we might need the extra capacity. In that case spend the money on an actually nice North stand with bigger bars, restaurants and a larger capacity so you’ve got a 13 or 14k capacity. It’s so important we get the North and East stands right, I’d rather we waited longer, saved up transfer fees, grants and even fundraiser among fans if we ended up with a couple of stands to be proud of. I will join local residents and vote against any proposal to add north/south ‘add ons’ to the existing east stand Chernobyl structure - hopefully BCC will throw it out if plans are submitted based on this. A total ‘bodge up’ if this is the proposed way forward if as seems likely, the Memorial Stadium is to be our permanent home for generations to come. As you say this needs to be right - imo the east stand needs to be totally demolished - and I’m a current user. 1982ltd...did a "bodge up job" of the Dolman stand. Seems to look much better these days and offer better facilities i understand. That would be the model i suspect Rovers will follow. When its finished it will be hard to spot the old structure. There will be no standing on the east terrace in the future. The southern end of a new stand may be able to be completed whilst still enabling the east stand and northern section of the east terrace to remain open. A full demolition would mean 3-4000 terrace and 1000 seating places lost for the duration (2 seasons maybe ?) ...max 8000 capacity at the mem for 2 years ? No opportunity to attract new fans at all during that period. The future lies elsewhere from the Mem the current time period needs a better and slightly bigger Mem than we currently have. I predict a new stadium in south Gloucestershire of 30,000 which also has space to increase capacity in the future. I dont see that happening till midway through this century though. So many of us on here will never sit in it or probably know of its existence. |
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Post by bravosierraseven on Oct 31, 2023 15:47:18 GMT
What is the internal structure like? I'm wondering if the main building itself can be retained and incorporated whilst removing the seats to blend in better, or are the seats integral to the whole stand? A concrete monolith with low ceilings and a small bar at one end - limited overpriced hospitality in a low ceiling narrow room - no real access for disabled people - no internal stairwells - all external - need to walk up steps and then down steps to get to the other side depending on where you’re seated - the seats are integral to the current structure - no concourse cannot walk underneath - it really is a shambolic structure - as is the West Stand btw. All good reasons to demolish it, It's 35 years old and looks it and if you want it to earn revenue outside of football it has to be an up to date facility with access for all. |
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Post by gas2 on Oct 31, 2023 16:30:36 GMT
Build a new east stand behind the existing east stand that in turn will make the north stand bigger and we will be able to build a bigger west stand in the future simple
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Post by yattongas on Oct 31, 2023 16:33:33 GMT
Build a new east stand behind the existing east stand that in turn will make the north stand bigger and we will be able to build a bigger west stand in the future simple Apart from the multiple extra millions that will cost. 👍 |
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Post by gas2 on Oct 31, 2023 16:39:18 GMT
Build a new east stand behind the existing east stand that in turn will make the north stand bigger and we will be able to build a bigger west stand in the future simple Apart from the multiple extra millions that will cost. 👍 Well quality doesn't come cheap |
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 31, 2023 17:06:09 GMT
I will join local residents and vote against any proposal to add north/south ‘add ons’ to the existing east stand Chernobyl structure - hopefully BCC will throw it out if plans are submitted based on this. A total ‘bodge up’ if this is the proposed way forward if as seems likely, the Memorial Stadium is to be our permanent home for generations to come. As you say this needs to be right - imo the east stand needs to be totally demolished - and I’m a current user. 1982ltd...did a "bodge up job" of the Dolman stand. Seems to look much better these days and offer better facilities i understand. That would be the model i suspect Rovers will follow. When its finished it will be hard to spot the old structure. There will be no standing on the east terrace in the future. The southern end of a new stand may be able to be completed whilst still enabling the east stand and northern section of the east terrace to remain open. A full demolition would mean 3-4000 terrace and 1000 seating places lost for the duration (2 seasons maybe ?) ...max 8000 capacity at the mem for 2 years ? No opportunity to attract new fans at all during that period. The future lies elsewhere from the Mem the current time period needs a better and slightly bigger Mem than we currently have. I predict a new stadium in south Gloucestershire of 30,000 which also has space to increase capacity in the future. I dont see that happening till midway through this century though. So many of us on here will never sit in it or probably know of its existence. 1982ltd only kept the structure of the stand but rebuilt everything around it including a new roof , concourse and facilities underneath, bringing the seating down to pitch level. We can't do that with the east stand as the rake of the seats are too shallow meaning to bring it down to pitch level we'd have to move the pitch towards the west stand which we obviously can't do. If we want it to blend in seamlessly as one and be all seated the existing structure would have to come down meaning a complete rebuild. Either that or we keep a standing lower tier seperate to a seated upper tier. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Oct 31, 2023 18:24:27 GMT
I will join local residents and vote against any proposal to add north/south ‘add ons’ to the existing east stand Chernobyl structure - hopefully BCC will throw it out if plans are submitted based on this. A total ‘bodge up’ if this is the proposed way forward if as seems likely, the Memorial Stadium is to be our permanent home for generations to come. As you say this needs to be right - imo the east stand needs to be totally demolished - and I’m a current user. 1982ltd...did a "bodge up job" of the Dolman stand. Seems to look much better these days and offer better facilities i understand. That would be the model i suspect Rovers will follow. When its finished it will be hard to spot the old structure. There will be no standing on the east terrace in the future. The southern end of a new stand may be able to be completed whilst still enabling the east stand and northern section of the east terrace to remain open. A full demolition would mean 3-4000 terrace and 1000 seating places lost for the duration (2 seasons maybe ?) ...max 8000 capacity at the mem for 2 years ? No opportunity to attract new fans at all during that period. could keep the East terracing open whilst a new East stand is built behind it. |
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 31, 2023 18:48:20 GMT
Build an extension at the back of the east stand, ready for lifts, improved access to the stands, and any other new facilities required. Remove the roof in the off season, put a new roof over the existing structure that can be joined onto with additional flanks to the structure. At the same time gut the bars and club shop and rebuild including the space from the new structure. Incorporate food and merchandise concessions in the concourse extension. Build new structures to the north and the south in a similar enough style to blend in. Replace the terracing with new seating. Then you have a fantastic stand with many of the problems stated resolved. Might not be cheap but means you don’t have to lose much capacity in season or start from scratch. See, this is what I envisaged when I heard al-Saeed’s interview. I don’t think for a minute that they will just put up some cobbled-together piece of sh**e. |
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Post by singupgas on Oct 31, 2023 18:57:14 GMT
Build an extension at the back of the east stand, ready for lifts, improved access to the stands, and any other new facilities required. Remove the roof in the off season, put a new roof over the existing structure that can be joined onto with additional flanks to the structure. At the same time gut the bars and club shop and rebuild including the space from the new structure. Incorporate food and merchandise concessions in the concourse extension. Build new structures to the north and the south in a similar enough style to blend in. Replace the terracing with new seating. Then you have a fantastic stand with many of the problems stated resolved. Might not be cheap but means you don’t have to lose much capacity in season or start from scratch. See, this is what I envisaged when I heard al-Saeed’s interview. I don’t think for a minute that they will just put up some cobbled-together piece of sh**e. So are we thinking we are just going to be adding on to the existing structures, either side and Keeping terracing? Really puzzled how we have gone from wanting a 20k+ seater stadium, to adding bits onto what is there as well as keeping the terracing. |
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Post by justin blue on Oct 31, 2023 19:08:38 GMT
Build an extension at the back of the east stand, ready for lifts, improved access to the stands, and any other new facilities required. Remove the roof in the off season, put a new roof over the existing structure that can be joined onto with additional flanks to the structure. At the same time gut the bars and club shop and rebuild including the space from the new structure. Incorporate food and merchandise concessions in the concourse extension. Build new structures to the north and the south in a similar enough style to blend in. Replace the terracing with new seating. Then you have a fantastic stand with many of the problems stated resolved. Might not be cheap but means you don’t have to lose much capacity in season or start from scratch. See, this is what I envisaged when I heard al-Saeed’s interview. I don’t think for a minute that they will just put up some cobbled-together piece of sh**e. While it will surely be better than what we have. I cant see it being anything other than cobbled together. |
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Post by aghast on Oct 31, 2023 22:46:15 GMT
I just didn't interpret what he said as building a new East stand, but instead redeveloping it.
That means it could be extended one way or another to make a decent structure, but if the main block is staying where it is, and being tarted up, then the West Stand can't really be improved much since we can't build in front of or behind where it now sits, because of houses behind and the pitch in front.
It could be extended either side, at some point, to replace the NW and SW tiddlers. But it's never going to be massive.
With a new North stand, hopefully tiered, we could still end up with something pretty good though. 🤞
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Post by singupgas on Nov 1, 2023 6:51:58 GMT
Are we not in agreement that the east and west stand are eye sores? I don't get how we can want to just add bits on either ends of them.
The ground will still be any eyesore with no side looking remotely similar to the other.
I'm sorry but really worried this will probably go down as one of the worse stadium "rebuilds" in history of stadium rebuilds.
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 1, 2023 8:04:37 GMT
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Post by percy on Nov 1, 2023 8:22:50 GMT
Are we not in agreement that the east and west stand are eye sores? I don't get how we can want to just add bits on either ends of them. The ground will still be any eyesore with no side looking remotely similar to the other. I'm sorry but really worried this will probably go down as one of the worse stadium "rebuilds" in history of stadium rebuilds. thats the spirit |
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