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Post by ricardo on Jan 8, 2024 22:45:25 GMT
it's in the interests of local residents that as many people as possible can leave the area as quickly as possible after the match. It would make sense to have that exit in place (even if we dont use it for now unless an emergency) before asking for planning permission for a higher capacity. Exiting the ground after the Charlton match, someone who lives on that new street right next to the Mem was genuinely trying to re-enter said estate by car right on full time. Sat stationary as thousands filtered past and out onto Filton Ave. someone wished her luck & she said āIām only trying to get homeā (with a smirk) Canāt believe for a second those residents donāt know when weāre playing or have the brains to check the fixtures. Have witnessed that 3 times this season, never before. Not a coincidence for me! |
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Post by Gasshole on Jan 9, 2024 5:26:54 GMT
Exiting the ground after the Charlton match, someone who lives on that new street right next to the Mem was genuinely trying to re-enter said estate by car right on full time. Sat stationary as thousands filtered past and out onto Filton Ave. someone wished her luck & she said āIām only trying to get homeā (with a smirk) Canāt believe for a second those residents donāt know when weāre playing or have the brains to check the fixtures. Have witnessed that 3 times this season, never before. Not a coincidence for me! I think sheās trying to have you on the bonnet. |
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Post by ricardo on Jan 9, 2024 9:44:31 GMT
Have witnessed that 3 times this season, never before. Ā Not a coincidence for me! I think sheās trying to have you on the bonnet. My wife would be livid. |
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Post by percy on Feb 26, 2024 13:10:25 GMT
A little more around the comments pre-game.
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Post by cheamgas on Feb 26, 2024 13:34:33 GMT
The new statement does not really add anything. However if we are only going for a 16,000 capacity the plans will almost certainly cause a big disappointment as certainly will not include a large new fit for purpose East Stand. Also based on previous comments there will still be standing in the East and West enclosures. If we do reach the Championship then putting seats in the standing areas could well reduce the capacity closer to 14,000.
It will be cheaper in the long run if we do things properly now as opposed to ending up with only slightly better Mem than we have now at a significant cost. If cannot afford to do it all in one go would prefer a new 8,000 seater East Stand (no pillars!) and Thatchers and West side left as they are.
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 26, 2024 13:39:32 GMT
The new statement does not really add anything. However if we are only going for a 16,000 capacity the plans will almost certainly cause a big disappointment as certainly will not include a large new fit for purpose East Stand. Also based on previous comments there will still be standing in the East and West enclosures. If we do reach the Championship then putting seats in the standing areas could well reduce the capacity closer to 14,000. It will be cheaper in the long run if we do things properly now as opposed to ending up with only slightly better Mem than we have now at a significant cost. If cannot afford to do it all in one go would prefer a new 8,000 seater East Stand (no pillars!) and Thatchers and West side left as they are. This is exactly why I've said a few times the lack of developments in the last 25 years have been utterly shameful. What can you do though? A series of people wanting to play Football Chairman without having any go about them. |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Feb 26, 2024 13:47:26 GMT
Are we now aiming for 16 or 18k?
Assuming we are going all seated or safe standing that'll wipe out the 2k we lost due to SAG as they'll no longer be terraces. If we were to just replace East terrace and Thatchers with safe standing that'll bring current capacity down to 11k. So we are looking at adding 5k beyond the current structure. Just extending the east stand would only add 1k. Will the Thatchers be similar to Aston Villas North stand? Looking forward to seeing the plans, I'll reserve judgement until then.
May put on high viz and hard hat and start spraying the ground behind East terrace and Thatchers just to start rumours. There is paint already there which I assume is related to the east terrace luke warm foot spa issues
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Post by percy on Feb 26, 2024 14:21:37 GMT
What we know is they arent knocking down existing east stand, so
1) Extensions either side MUST be cantilevered with same rake for seating to blend in. New matching seats for new and old stands
2) From the air, you can see existing roof has 7 panels. Maximum either side would allow 4 more panels, so roughly doubling existing length when both ends done
3) How they join South Stand will be a important so it looks and feels right, allowing for the much lower roof, as well as emergency access
4) Once both ends built, can the underneath of the whole length be stripped back to the structure to maximise space for match day and non match day use, improved spectator facilities and internal (or rear access) stairs
5) The terrace - does it stay, get converted to a small amount of seats, or rebuilt as safe standing with a steeper rake up to the seats?
Then we can start the North Stand thread....
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 26, 2024 14:42:14 GMT
I would think the remodeling of the East Stand and Terrace would have to incorporate safe standing. The current terrace is very low and we have two large dugouts impeding the view. I'm would hope the ugly stair structures could be removed from the terrace and remodeled at either end of the new stand
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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on Feb 26, 2024 15:32:28 GMT
I would think that the East Stand would need to be done properly - and by that I mean no "temporary" structures. We need excellent corporate facilities to compete with the inbreds and the cricket lot... if we do it on the cheap, we will still have the same turnover issues.
I appreciate Mr Hussain's ambition though - certainly talks a decent game. Lets hope fans start getting behind him and treat him like we do with Wael.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 26, 2024 16:35:53 GMT
What we know is they arent knocking down existing east stand, so 1) Extensions either side MUST be cantilevered with same rake for seating to blend in. New matching seats for new and old stands 2) From the air, you can see existing roof has 7 panels. Maximum either side would allow 4 more panels, so roughly doubling existing length when both ends done 3) How they join South Stand will be a important so it looks and feels right, allowing for the much lower roof, as well as emergency access 4) Once both ends built, can the underneath of the whole length be stripped back to the structure to maximise space for match day and non match day use, improved spectator facilities and internal (or rear access) stairs 5) The terrace - does it stay, get converted to a small amount of seats, or rebuilt as safe standing with a steeper rake up to the seats? Then we can start the North Stand thread.... We don't know for certain what the plans are? If it's taking over 12 months to get pp & then start work then it could well be more than just sticking extensions on the present East Stand. If Thursday's Q&A is scheduled to last a couple of hours then hopefully we'll get a decent update on what is being planned. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 26, 2024 16:53:07 GMT
I would think that the East Stand would need to be done properly - and by that I mean no "temporary" structures. We need excellent corporate facilities to compete with the inbreds and the cricket lot... if we do it on the cheap, we will still have the same turnover issues. I appreciate Mr Hussain's ambition though - certainly talks a decent game. Lets hope fans start getting behind him and treat him like we do with Wael. It needs to be comparable, in my head though I envisage it more akin to the Dolman makeover with another bank of seats stretching from the end of the current stand to pitch level. Looking forward to seeing the plans, wonder if it'll just be the East at the moment or both East and North. |
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Post by singupgas on Feb 26, 2024 17:00:04 GMT
I would think that the East Stand would need to be done properly - and by that I mean no "temporary" structures. We need excellent corporate facilities to compete with the inbreds and the cricket lot... if we do it on the cheap, we will still have the same turnover issues. I appreciate Mr Hussain's ambition though - certainly talks a decent game. Lets hope fans start getting behind him and treat him like we do with Wael. A decent 8k seater stand on the east side with excellent facilities would be nice. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 26, 2024 17:37:57 GMT
I would think that the East Stand would need to be done properly - and by that I mean no "temporary" structures. We need excellent corporate facilities to compete with the inbreds and the cricket lot... if we do it on the cheap, we will still have the same turnover issues. I appreciate Mr Hussain's ambition though - certainly talks a decent game. Lets hope fans start getting behind him and treat him like we do with Wael. A decent 8k seater stand on the east side with excellent facilities would be nice. It would definitely be a statement of intent, it'll probably be more like 6000, though. |
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Post by Gashead73 on Feb 26, 2024 17:45:56 GMT
If the South Stand is 3500 capacity then the East should be at the least 7500
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Post by Gashead73 on Feb 26, 2024 17:49:30 GMT
In respect, this is the most excitement we have had since they built the Con Jon Stand at Eastville in the early 1950s....
Credit where its due in fairness' two Stands in 4 years at BRFC is mindblowing
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Post by gasify on Feb 26, 2024 18:12:24 GMT
I'm feeling a bit cynical. Seems a bit of a coincidence that season tickets are on sale at the moment.
"The design is almost completed. We canāt expose it to the public yet. Weāll have to talk to the council and discuss it with them and see what can and canāt be done. Once we go through that we will show it to the public, definitely."
That seems a bit of an arse about backwards way of doing it. Surely you sit down with the council first and work out what and what cannot be done before you engage an organisation to create the plans?
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Post by percy on Feb 26, 2024 18:13:59 GMT
I'm feeling a bit cynical. Seems a bit of a coincidence that season tickets are on sale at the moment. "The design is almost completed. We canāt expose it to the public yet. Weāll have to talk to the council and discuss it with them and see what can and canāt be done. Once we go through that we will show it to the public, definitely." That seems a bit of an arse about backwards way of doing it. Surely you sit down with the council first and work out what and what cannot be done before you engage an organisation to create the plans? Not sure anyoneās season ticket decision will be influenced by a stand that may or may not begin building in 2 seasons time but gaschat loves a conspiracy theory |
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Post by dudelebowski on Feb 26, 2024 18:14:40 GMT
I'm feeling a bit cynical. Seems a bit of a coincidence that season tickets are on sale at the moment. "The design is almost completed. We canāt expose it to the public yet. Weāll have to talk to the council and discuss it with them and see what can and canāt be done. Once we go through that we will show it to the public, definitely." That seems a bit of an arse about backwards way of doing it. Surely you sit down with the council first and work out what and what cannot be done before you engage an organisation to create the plans? We go to them with what WE want and see if they knock us back on any of it. If so, try and negotiate a way around it and/or make the required adjustments. F letting the council have a big hand in designing our groundš |
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Post by gasify on Feb 26, 2024 18:21:19 GMT
I'm feeling a bit cynical. Seems a bit of a coincidence that season tickets are on sale at the moment. "The design is almost completed. We canāt expose it to the public yet. Weāll have to talk to the council and discuss it with them and see what can and canāt be done. Once we go through that we will show it to the public, definitely." That seems a bit of an arse about backwards way of doing it. Surely you sit down with the council first and work out what and what cannot be done before you engage an organisation to create the plans? Not sure anyoneās season ticket decision will be influenced by a stand that may or may not begin building in 2 seasons time but gaschat loves a conspiracy theory The atmosphere at the game on Saturday for most of the game was flat. There is quite a bit of talk on face book of fans not renewing season tickets. Maybe a good news story can help change the general feeling of 'Meh' at the moment? |
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