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Post by daniel300380 on May 7, 2024 13:00:00 GMT
We are in League 1. So clubs in League 2 and a not in League 1 are run worse or similar to us. Since Wael came in, we have spent 1 season in League 2. The rest of the time we have been in League 1. Compare that with the same period before he came in. So as I said, we could do better, but we could do a not worse and we are probably doing as we should be! You can see the long term plans. Improve the stadium, training facilities, bring in young players to develop. Higgs was so desperate to sign a bad deal to try and get a stadium, everything else was neglected. Even simple things like a better club shop, newer facilities in the toilets, better bar areas etc are taken for granted. None of that was even looked at under Higgs. To say they were similar is rubbish, just because Higgs signed a bad deal. Wael could have agreed to those terms. But you would soon be moaning about that, if we were losing money😂We are... We've posted record losses for three out of the seven seasons he owned the club. Because he's spent more😂. If he wasn't spending, you would be moaning then. It's only an issue if they walk away and want the money back. Same at nearly every club!
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Post by baggins on May 7, 2024 13:05:12 GMT
We are in League 1. So clubs in League 2 and a not in League 1 are run worse or similar to us. Since Wael came in, we have spent 1 season in League 2. The rest of the time we have been in League 1. Compare that with the same period before he came in. So as I said, we could do better, but we could do a not worse and we are probably doing as we should be! You can see the long term plans. Improve the stadium, training facilities, bring in young players to develop. Higgs was so desperate to sign a bad deal to try and get a stadium, everything else was neglected. Even simple things like a better club shop, newer facilities in the toilets, better bar areas etc are taken for granted. None of that was even looked at under Higgs. To say they were similar is rubbish, just because Higgs signed a bad deal. Wael could have agreed to those terms. But you would soon be moaning about that, if we were losing money😂We are... We've posted record losses for three out of the seven seasons he owned the club. We? Thought your last contribution to the Club was 4 years ago?
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Post by chewbacca on May 7, 2024 13:09:09 GMT
We are... We've posted record losses for three out of the seven seasons he owned the club. Because he's spent more😂. If he wasn't spending, you would be moaning then. It's only an issue if they walk away and want the money back. Same at nearly every club! While Exeter City have posted a profit despite a £1m wage rise, all of this on the back of a fully redeveloped St James' Park in their 20 years of Fan Ownership.
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Post by chewbacca on May 7, 2024 13:11:53 GMT
We are... We've posted record losses for three out of the seven seasons he owned the club. We? Thought your last contribution to the Club was 4 years ago? I had a season ticket for two seasons (2020/21 - Covid donation & 21/22) without attending a game so I think I'm in a bit of credit there.
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Post by gasify on May 7, 2024 14:16:54 GMT
We should be adding Solar Panels to all roof top areas. Will save the club a fortune. As a group of fans, we are becoming more 'green'. Remember the rainbow at Peterborough home game, lovely. Owl spotting at half time would be a right hoot. You previously suggested the South Stand was a disaster waiting to happen and would collapse with a bit of bad weather and now you want loads of solar panels piled on top - is it now a safe structure then? Never once suggested the stand would fall down.
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Post by daniel300380 on May 7, 2024 14:36:20 GMT
Because he's spent more😂. If he wasn't spending, you would be moaning then. It's only an issue if they walk away and want the money back. Same at nearly every club! While Exeter City have posted a profit despite a £1m wage rise, all of this on the back of a fully redeveloped St James' Park in their 20 years of Fan Ownership.  So one club then😂. I bet their budget is still a lot less than ours. So you would be happy if we cut ours you the same, to make a profit? Plus they only made a profit as they made £1.4 million on transfers. That does not happen every season. Some of that was down to Taylor, who most slate on here😂
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Post by chewbacca on May 7, 2024 14:48:05 GMT
So one club then😂. I bet their budget is still a lot less than ours. So you would be happy if we cut ours you the same, to make a profit? Plus they only made a profit as they made £1.4 million on transfers. That does not happen every season. Some of that was down to Taylor, who most slate on here😂 Here in lies the issue. Here we are losing £2-4m a year, not going anywhere, not having a better stadium, not doing anything of note and still 4 points bellow a club that's regularly turned a profit. Rovers investment has been short term, sure it may prop us up in League One for a bit but it's not sustainable. For all WAQ's noise about "Evolution not revolution" Rovers boom and bust approach to the club hasn't changed since the early 2000's. We're still a club that sustains itself completely on match day revenue. That needs to change. I find it absolutely insane that asking for a more reasoned approach to running a football club is laughed off on here. Surely putting things in place to secure the clubs future for the next 30+ years is more a priority than the difference between 12th in League One or League Two?
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Post by stuart1974 on May 7, 2024 15:08:58 GMT
So one club then😂. I bet their budget is still a lot less than ours. So you would be happy if we cut ours you the same, to make a profit? Plus they only made a profit as they made £1.4 million on transfers. That does not happen every season. Some of that was down to Taylor, who most slate on here😂 Here in lies the issue. Here we are losing £2-4m a year, not going anywhere, not having a better stadium, not doing anything of note and still 4 points bellow a club that's regularly turned a profit. Rovers investment has been short term, sure it may prop us up in League One for a bit but it's not sustainable. For all WAQ's noise about "Evolution not revolution" Rovers boom and bust approach to the club hasn't changed since the early 2000's. We're still a club that sustains itself completely on match day revenue. That needs to change. I find it absolutely insane that asking for a more reasoned approach to running a football club is laughed off on here. Surely putting things in place to secure the clubs future for the next 30+ years is more a priority than the difference between 12th in League One or League Two? I think you've missed the point. It's not calling for a better approach, it's asking for the name calling to be tempered down a notch.
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Post by chewbacca on May 7, 2024 15:13:20 GMT
Here in lies the issue. Here we are losing £2-4m a year, not going anywhere, not having a better stadium, not doing anything of note and still 4 points bellow a club that's regularly turned a profit. Rovers investment has been short term, sure it may prop us up in League One for a bit but it's not sustainable. For all WAQ's noise about "Evolution not revolution" Rovers boom and bust approach to the club hasn't changed since the early 2000's. We're still a club that sustains itself completely on match day revenue. That needs to change. I find it absolutely insane that asking for a more reasoned approach to running a football club is laughed off on here. Surely putting things in place to secure the clubs future for the next 30+ years is more a priority than the difference between 12th in League One or League Two? I think you've missed the point. It's not calling for a better approach, it's asking for the name calling to be tempered down a notch. I stand by it, they're a pair of useless berks.
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Post by baggins on May 7, 2024 15:19:15 GMT
So one club then😂. I bet their budget is still a lot less than ours. So you would be happy if we cut ours you the same, to make a profit? Plus they only made a profit as they made £1.4 million on transfers. That does not happen every season. Some of that was down to Taylor, who most slate on here😂 Here in lies the issue. Here we are losing £2-4m a year, not going anywhere, not having a better stadium, not doing anything of note and still 4 points bellow a club that's regularly turned a profit. Rovers investment has been short term, sure it may prop us up in League One for a bit but it's not sustainable. For all WAQ's noise about "Evolution not revolution" Rovers boom and bust approach to the club hasn't changed since the early 2000's. We're still a club that sustains itself completely on match day revenue. That needs to change. I find it absolutely insane that asking for a more reasoned approach to running a football club is laughed off on here. Surely putting things in place to secure the clubs future for the next 30+ years is more a priority than the difference between 12th in League One or League Two? You've no idea how sustainable the investment is, we don't rely on matchday income to sustain ourselves and not one owner is interested in a 30 year security. You ask for for a more reasoned approach to running a Football Club? Off you go, put your ideas to the Owners, let us know how you get on.
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Post by baggins on May 7, 2024 15:19:53 GMT
I think you've missed the point. It's not calling for a better approach, it's asking for the name calling to be tempered down a notch. I stand by it, they're a pair of useless berks. Your critisism is getting tedious.
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Post by chewbacca on May 7, 2024 15:21:44 GMT
I stand by it, they're a pair of useless berks. Your critisism is getting tedious. It's a forum. Should everyone just sit here applauding millions of pounds lost on mediocrity?
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Post by stuart1974 on May 7, 2024 15:23:58 GMT
I think you've missed the point. It's not calling for a better approach, it's asking for the name calling to be tempered down a notch. I stand by it, they're a pair of useless berks. We know, you've made your view abundantly clear. Perhaps we can get back to the topic of the thread.
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Post by chewbacca on May 7, 2024 15:28:48 GMT
I stand by it, they're a pair of useless berks. We know, you've made your view abundantly clear. Perhaps we can get back to the topic of the thread. Sure. Will the new East Stand keep the WAQ mural do we think?
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Post by baggins on May 7, 2024 15:34:43 GMT
Your critisism is getting tedious. It's a forum. Should everyone just sit here applauding millions of pounds lost on mediocrity? No, but everytime a post of yours goes in, it's the same boring anti Wael, anti Owners, name calling, no appreciation of anything they've done or trying to do, it's just tiresome. At least it's not your millions eh?
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Post by chewbacca on May 7, 2024 15:41:08 GMT
It's a forum. Should everyone just sit here applauding millions of pounds lost on mediocrity? No, but everytime a post of yours goes in, it's the same boring anti Wael, anti Owners, name calling, no appreciation of anything they've done or trying to do, it's just tiresome. At least it's not your millions eh? Sorry, yes, you’re right. Thank you Wael for upholding the clubs traditional place of midtable in the third tier. Your willingness to pay out of your own pocket for poor decisions made by you and others you’ve employed should be heralded as a true golden age for the Gas.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 7, 2024 15:44:21 GMT
We know, you've made your view abundantly clear. Perhaps we can get back to the topic of the thread. Sure. Will the new East Stand keep the WAQ mural do we think? Hopefully they'll commission a new one and name the stand in his honour. 😉
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Post by chewbacca on May 7, 2024 15:45:02 GMT
Sure. Will the new East Stand keep the WAQ mural do we think? Hopefully they'll commission a new one and name the stand in his honour. 😉 A second stand named after him after the WAQ Shack!
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Post by baggins on May 7, 2024 15:56:30 GMT
No, but everytime a post of yours goes in, it's the same boring anti Wael, anti Owners, name calling, no appreciation of anything they've done or trying to do, it's just tiresome. At least it's not your millions eh? Sorry, yes, you’re right. Thank you Wael for upholding the clubs traditional place of midtable in the third tier. Your willingness to pay out of your own pocket for poor decisions made by you and others you’ve employed should be heralded as a true golden age for the Gas. Or for giving you a Club to moan about every day? Maybe you'd like to tell everyone where you'd like to send Tom Gorringe, maybe your nickname for him, or your nickname for Wael, just in case one or two new forum members have missed your daily posts?
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Post by yattongas on May 7, 2024 16:00:07 GMT
No, but everytime a post of yours goes in, it's the same boring anti Wael, anti Owners, name calling, no appreciation of anything they've done or trying to do, it's just tiresome. At least it's not your millions eh? Sorry, yes, you’re right. Thank you Wael for upholding the clubs traditional place of midtable in the third tier. Your willingness to pay out of your own pocket for poor decisions made by you and others you’ve employed should be heralded as a true golden age for the Gas. Think it’s more the case of Wael and the latest investor keeping up the Gas tradition of running the club poorly .
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