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Post by gasbluesman on Jul 10, 2024 8:55:46 GMT
Student accommodation and a bijou hotel using the boxes on the east stand makes loads of financial sense, great view of Bristol for a hotel room. Not to mention our bars will be used for student nights etc. we could move the pitch eastwards slightly with the prospect of doing the same with the west. South stand can continue eastwards easily enough.
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Post by gasify on Jul 10, 2024 9:10:23 GMT
In colour only. The stand in the photo has a self supporting roof, with no pathetic pillars on it. I really liked the design of this. The capacity would have suited us as well. Perhaps if the previous board had gone for pillars rather than the centiliver option it might have been more viable to build. It's pointless having a great looking design if it's never likely to be built. Looking at the SW corner it looks like an hospitality box, or similar, was planned in that corner, I wonder if something similar is planned in the SE corner, which explains the odd opening left in that corner. If anyone is any good at super imposing the old view from the Thatchers to the new view on the thatchers, maybe that will show exactly why there is that odd opening in the left corner. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 10, 2024 9:14:47 GMT
If they resurrected the student let design then it wouldn't be too bad. Certainly had it progressed without UWE and FM we'd be in a good place.
Plans to be revealed at the Fun Day??
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 10, 2024 9:32:07 GMT
Student accommodation and a bijou hotel using the boxes on the east stand makes loads of financial sense, great view of Bristol for a hotel room. Not to mention our bars will be used for student nights etc. we could move the pitch eastwards slightly with the prospect of doing the same with the west. South stand can continue eastwards easily enough. I doubt moving the pitch is practical now that the South/SW Stands are in place? |
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Post by supergas on Jul 10, 2024 9:43:21 GMT
Perhaps an opening gambit so they can then be seen to be compromising with the actual plans of 4 story’s?! How many stories tall is the current East Stand? The seating must reach at least four or five stories and that monstrosity of a roof is at least another one or two on top of that... |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 10, 2024 9:55:04 GMT
For those wondering, this is the 2008 student accommodation financed scheme that obtained planning permission. The tallest part is seven storeys and was I believe a hotel. The design is right at the limit of what is possible at the site, without unacceptable light loss to the surrounding houses. The capacity was 18,500 - 18,000 with segregation.  Is there a breakdown of stand capacity? We could look to just build the north and east as before, could that work? |
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Post by amgas on Jul 10, 2024 9:58:20 GMT
Good news that they are looking at enabling development as it hopefully means we get a better stadium.
Hopefully the student accomodation gets built with blocks in the car park area which must make the stand construction easier. Perhaps there can still be car parking on the lower level.
The locals could have had a nice low level Sainsburys with moderate housing included, but they did not want that. Moral of this story is be careful what you protest about.
Given the desire by the new government to relax planning constraints and sort out housing I think there is a good chance such a scheme will meet planning requirements now or in the future. Every student flat that gets built helps free up other housing which is a serious issue in Bristol.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 10, 2024 10:02:15 GMT
Good news that they are looking at enabling development as it hopefully means we get a better stadium. Hopefully the student accomodation gets built with blocks in the car park area which must make the stand construction easier. Perhaps there can still be car parking on the lower level. The locals could have had a nice low level Sainsburys with moderate housing included, but they did not want that. Moral of this story is be careful what you protest about. Given the desire by the new government to relax planning constraints and sort out housing I think there is a good chance such a scheme will meet planning requirements now or in the future. Every student flat that gets built helps free up other housing which is a serious issue in Bristol. Better, more affordable and sweetener for planning consent. Hopefully. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 10, 2024 10:26:42 GMT
The sap who typed the tweet out probably doesn't realise planning was granted for this in 2008 and any reapplication would sail through as a precedent was already set. |
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Post by singupgas on Jul 10, 2024 10:46:05 GMT
The sap who typed the tweet out probably doesn't realise planning was granted for this in 2008 and any reapplication would sail through as a precedent was already set. Samuel P should stick to finishing their homework and playing games. |
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Post by ricardo on Jul 10, 2024 11:04:45 GMT
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Post by ricardo on Jul 10, 2024 11:08:42 GMT
If they resurrected the student let design then it wouldn't be too bad. Certainly had it progressed without UWE and FM we'd be in a good place. Plans to be revealed at the Fun Day?? Ha behind a paywall |
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Post by supergas on Jul 10, 2024 11:10:21 GMT
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Post by gasbluesman on Jul 10, 2024 11:12:55 GMT
Perhaps an opening gambit so they can then be seen to be compromising with the actual plans of 4 story’s?! How many stories tall is the current East Stand? The seating must reach at least four or five stories and that monstrosity of a roof is at least another one or two on top of that... It’s like meccano that south stand. Taking off the south west and adding a little extra on the east shouldn’t be a problem. Might even be beneficial since they messed up the inside dimensions. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 10, 2024 11:16:44 GMT
For those wondering, this is the 2008 student accommodation financed scheme that obtained planning permission. The tallest part is seven storeys and was I believe a hotel. The design is right at the limit of what is possible at the site, without unacceptable light loss to the surrounding houses. The capacity was 18,500 - 18,000 with segregation. Is there a breakdown of stand capacity? We could look to just build the north and east as before, could that work? Isn't that now the plan, with the South Stands seemingly having a similar capacity to the previous plans then that just leaves the West Stand with most likely a lower capacity, was that why the owner suggested they were looking to increase ground capacity to 16,000 rather than the previous approved 18,000? The big question must be can this work be done whilst the ground remains in use or will it mean a season or two playing elsewhere? |
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Post by ricardo on Jul 10, 2024 11:58:40 GMT
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 10, 2024 12:11:35 GMT
Student accommodation and a bijou hotel using the boxes on the east stand makes loads of financial sense, great view of Bristol for a hotel room. Not to mention our bars will be used for student nights etc. we could move the pitch eastwards slightly with the prospect of doing the same with the west. South stand can continue eastwards easily enough. I doubt moving the pitch is practical now that the South/SW Stands are in place? The south stand is cut in half at the end to be able to integrate with the east stand. So I guess we could extend that as well. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 10, 2024 12:12:04 GMT
The links aren’t shareable unfortunately |
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Post by buktaboy on Jul 10, 2024 12:15:40 GMT
If the scheme provides the funding for the club to redevelop the stadium and build proper stands with decent facilities then I'm all for it.
My fear though is the owners will do it on the cheap and all we'll get is more Meccano stands with pillars and basic amenities.
Now the cat is out the bag, we should at least be told what the plan is.
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Post by gasbluesman on Jul 10, 2024 13:45:04 GMT
I doubt moving the pitch is practical now that the South/SW Stands are in place? The south stand is cut in half at the end to be able to integrate with the east stand. So I guess we could extend that as well. From this and the picture it seems that the accommodation was on the east and west stands. Perhaps they are going for the option of doing it just on the east side. Although if they are going through all that effort perhaps a pitch shift makes sense. Certainly less disruptive as you can build the new east stand behind the old one. You could even make student access separate from the stadium with the access points on strathmore and Ellicott road |
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