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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 25, 2023 17:37:41 GMT
They've sussed out Grant is our weak link sadly. Shame Garner, Tisdale, Barton, Mangan etc haven't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2023 17:40:05 GMT
This squad needs some big changes for me. I can name at least 7 players in the squad today who aren’t good enough for a club whose aims are top 8.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Nov 25, 2023 17:40:44 GMT
Yeah, iam sorry but this Mangan , Barton love affair with Grant has run its legs, was all there to see today , the man is slow , makes it worse when we got are best defender on the bench , that’s the small decisions that Mangan has to get right when he after a job , , think he got that wrong today Not one to defend Barton but every manager we've had seems to have a love in for Grant. It's bizarre. He must be fekkin awesome in training. I'd argue that's cos he's a good player mate. Lots piling in on him after his error but apart from that he was very good today. I've seen people blaming him for the 1st goal when in reality he was left exposed by Wilson who for some unknown reason ran under a simple clearance
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Post by baggins on Nov 25, 2023 17:41:32 GMT
They've sussed out Grant is our weak link sadly. Shame Garner, Tisdale, Barton, Mangan etc haven't. And Mangan will suffer because of him, just like the rest. The blokes a one man Manager sacking machine.
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Post by onefindunford on Nov 25, 2023 17:41:41 GMT
For 95% of that game we were comfortable kept the ball well and looked dangerous, we've gifted them 2 goals and that's cost us a point at the very least. I thought Ward was excellent and up until the 2nd goal Grant had a very good game. We aren't far off at all but you simply can't give away the 2 goals we did today at places like Derby, Cox barely made a save and we've still managed to conceded twice, hugely frustrating Cox made two great one on one saves, thought he was very good today. Spot on mate.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 25, 2023 17:41:52 GMT
Absolute sickener to lose like that.
Only got ourselves to blame though. Individual errors at crucial times cost us that game.
We're not far away though, we're a proper Centre Forward away from a promotion team.
We're getting there.
Up The Gas!
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Post by Somersetgas on Nov 25, 2023 17:41:52 GMT
I still wouldn’t have him Hugo, give him a two year contract and see what happens……currently he’s playing for his future. Yeah, fair enough but harsh to judge him on what you think he will do when he has done the opposite so far? I watched him stroll around one game making no effort at all, Burton away, he gave nothing, sorry can’t see what he brings.
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Post by socrates on Nov 25, 2023 17:42:27 GMT
For 95% of that game we were comfortable kept the ball well and looked dangerous, we've gifted them 2 goals and that's cost us a point at the very least. I thought Ward was excellent and up until the 2nd goal Grant had a very good game. We aren't far off at all but you simply can't give away the 2 goals we did today at places like Derby, Cox barely made a save and we've still managed to conceded twice, hugely frustrating Similar thing happed up there last season , we played well but made 3 defensive errors and lost 4-2 I think ?
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 25, 2023 17:43:20 GMT
Derby 6 shots on target score 2 Rovers 3 shots on target score 1 Thats the stats that count. If Rovers have such good players and play so well. How come we are already 12 points behind the mighty Stevenage ? Have Stevenage out spent us ? 5 points off of 8th place. Mid table finish on the cards. Slight improvement on last season. Which in the bigger picture is fine. Does it match the owners investment...nope not yet. Well we aren't are we !. This top 8 talk is nonsense . We spent 300k on players this season. We got 3 centre half's of which one never kicked a ball before. So we are having to continuity play emergency centre half's out of position. There is some progress as we are a comfortable mid table side but top 6-8 I don't think so. If the board is serious we need a striker and centre half in January.
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Post by Gas1977 on Nov 25, 2023 17:43:25 GMT
Finley’s been very poor this season but thought he was very good today. Same with Cox he had a far better game today, shame we have 2 poor keepers in Belly and Cox. Need a new keeper in Jan imo.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 25, 2023 17:44:05 GMT
Not one to defend Barton but every manager we've had seems to have a love in for Grant. It's bizarre. He must be fekkin awesome in training. I'd argue that's cos he's a good player mate. Lots piling in on him after his error but apart from that he was very good today. I've seen people blaming him for the 1st goal when in reality he was left exposed by Wilson who for some unknown reason ran under a simple clearance Always respect your opinion mate, but Grant has been a bag of w**k from day one and I said so then, and I've seen nothing to change my opinion. He simply hasn't got any better, is lazy and doesn't appear to excel in any position I've seen him play.
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Post by baggins on Nov 25, 2023 17:44:40 GMT
Not one to defend Barton but every manager we've had seems to have a love in for Grant. It's bizarre. He must be fekkin awesome in training. I'd argue that's cos he's a good player mate. Lots piling in on him after his error but apart from that he was very good today. I've seen people blaming him for the 1st goal when in reality he was left exposed by Wilson who for some unknown reason ran under a simple clearance He's crap. He's been crap ever since we signed him and he's cost us points again today.
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Post by Gas1977 on Nov 25, 2023 17:45:16 GMT
As an aside. Well done to DC at Cheltenham. Really looks like he's turned it around. Pleased for him Cracking result for them today, he’s done a great job in what looks like a sh**e team on paper.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 25, 2023 17:45:27 GMT
We should just make Manse DoF . . .
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 25, 2023 17:47:16 GMT
I'd argue that's cos he's a good player mate. Lots piling in on him after his error but apart from that he was very good today. I've seen people blaming him for the 1st goal when in reality he was left exposed by Wilson who for some unknown reason ran under a simple clearance Always respect your opinion mate, but Grant has been a bag of w**k from day one and I said so then, and I've seen nothing to change my opinion. He simply hasn't got any better, is lazy and doesn't appear to excel in any position I've seen him play. Not sure he was cr@p.fron day 1 as he seemed OK until he started suffering with his injury problems, I'm not sure why he's gone from a CM to a LB to a CB, the way he's going he'll be our reserve goalie soon.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 25, 2023 17:49:46 GMT
We should just make Manse DoF . . . He'd be brilliant at that. Such an infectiously positive character. We've had years of dour sh**e since DC left. GC got results but he was a right miserable sod. Then the PE teacher, the wannabe male model and Barton. We are long overdue someone positive again.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Nov 25, 2023 17:50:09 GMT
I'd argue that's cos he's a good player mate. Lots piling in on him after his error but apart from that he was very good today. I've seen people blaming him for the 1st goal when in reality he was left exposed by Wilson who for some unknown reason ran under a simple clearance Always respect your opinion mate, but Grant has been a bag of w**k from day one and I said so then, and I've seen nothing to change my opinion. He simply hasn't got any better, is lazy and doesn't appear to excel in any position I've seen him play. All about opinions mate would be very boring if we all thought the same !!
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 25, 2023 17:51:29 GMT
That was just like many performances under JB. Played some decent stuff at times but created very little and gifted the opposition 2 goals.
Possession is pointless if it doesn't lead to chances. On the balance of play we probably deserved a draw but we're not going to win many games with 3 shots on target and 1 corner. We only managed 2 shots on target and zero corners at Carlisle.
Nothing is going to change under Mangan, he's learnt all he knows from JB and it shows.
Hunt, Finley, Vale and Martin did okay. Grant had a nightmare and Collins was anonymous. Brown no better when he came on.
Need a new manager with fresh ideas, preferably before Tuesday.
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Post by socrates on Nov 25, 2023 17:52:14 GMT
We should just make Manse DoF . . . We should make him Manager although I’m just being biased because everything he said today about what’s wrong about the way we play is exactly what I’ve been saying all season.
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Post by percy on Nov 25, 2023 17:53:43 GMT
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Josh Grant - 8
A monstrous performance from the defender. His personal highlight will be winning a two v one where he was at a disadvantage, cutting out Nathaniel Mendez-Laing's square ball. Appearing to win everything that came his way, the 25-year-old is a major contributor
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