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Post by yattongas on Jul 14, 2024 15:28:11 GMT
Think Trump being taken out might have saved the world a whole host of future problems. Sorry if that offends but that’s my feelings . I disagree. It would have validated violence in the eyes of the loonies and led to chaos. We can't go down this route They’re going to kick off anyway if they lose. If Trump wins all hell will be let loose. Did you see that X post he tweeted of Biden tied up on the back of a truck ? Wasn’t the shooter a republican member or something like that ? Anyway ….. I still maintain the world would be a much better and safer place with him out of the game. Just like Putin and going back Hitler .
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Post by trevorgas on Jul 14, 2024 15:49:29 GMT
Think Trump being taken out might have saved the world a whole host of future problems. Sorry if that offends but that’s my feelings . I disagree. It would have validated violence in the eyes of the loonies and led to chaos. We can't go down this route Agree Les,we are both of an age to remember the assinations of the Kennedy's and civil rights leaders in the 60s,there is no democracy if robust political debate is ended by assassin's bullets,we only have to recall the murder of MPs in this country,who would want to stand and live in fear. I am no lover of Trump and think he would a disaster for the West however,he has to be defeated at the ballot box .
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Post by popuppirate on Jul 14, 2024 15:55:06 GMT
Have to agree it it's a good thing the shooter didn't succeed, the US would be in even more chaos and Trump a martyr. They may have even cancelled tonight's footie.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 14, 2024 16:01:13 GMT
I disagree. It would have validated violence in the eyes of the loonies and led to chaos. We can't go down this route Agree Les,we are both of an age to remember the assinations of the Kennedy's and civil rights leaders in the 60s,there is no democracy if robust political debate is ended by assassin's bullets,we only have to recall the murder of MPs in this country,who would want to stand and live in fear. I am no lover of Trump and think he would a disaster for the West however,he has to be defeated at the ballot box . See also the Brighton Bomb, as much as I disliked Thatcher, I learned quickly that such a success for the IRA would have led to so much worse.
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Post by oldie on Jul 14, 2024 17:59:16 GMT
Agree Les,we are both of an age to remember the assinations of the Kennedy's and civil rights leaders in the 60s,there is no democracy if robust political debate is ended by assassin's bullets,we only have to recall the murder of MPs in this country,who would want to stand and live in fear. I am no lover of Trump and think he would a disaster for the West however,he has to be defeated at the ballot box . See also the Brighton Bomb, as much as I disliked Thatcher, I learned quickly that such a success for the IRA would have led to so much worse. And look at a democratic Sinn Fein now
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 14, 2024 18:10:51 GMT
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Post by DrFaustus on Jul 14, 2024 18:32:34 GMT
See also the Brighton Bomb, as much as I disliked Thatcher, I learned quickly that such a success for the IRA would have led to so much worse. And look at a democratic Sinn Fein now Hmm. Grinning assassins in my view. Gangster scum that they were/are. I'd still not trust even the "new" lot of Sinn Fein as far as I could throw them off the Cliffs of Moher. Sorry for being so dismissive by the way. Am probably wrong, but having lost a school friend to their pals in the IRA, I'm probably biased.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 14, 2024 18:55:52 GMT
And look at a democratic Sinn Fein now Hmm. Grinning assassins in my view. Gangster scum that they were/are. I'd still not trust even the "new" lot of Sinn Fein as far as I could throw them off the Cliffs of Moher. Sorry for being so dismissive by the way. Am probably wrong, but having lost a school friend to their pals in the IRA, I'm probably biased. I have my concerns too, but that will probably go when the last of the 70s era thugs move on. The current leadership seem genuine, even if I don't agree with their outlook.
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Post by DrFaustus on Jul 14, 2024 19:53:21 GMT
Hmm. Grinning assassins in my view. Gangster scum that they were/are. I'd still not trust even the "new" lot of Sinn Fein as far as I could throw them off the Cliffs of Moher. Sorry for being so dismissive by the way. Am probably wrong, but having lost a school friend to their pals in the IRA, I'm probably biased. I have my concerns too, but that will probably go when the last of the 70s era thugs move on. The current leadership seem genuine, even if I don't agree with their outlook. Fair shout Stuart. A far more rational response than mine. 👍
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 14, 2024 23:29:34 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 16, 2024 9:38:52 GMT
Interesting choice for the Defence Review, George Robertson did the last Labour one in 1998. It was widely regarded as being pretty good but not fully funded by Gordon Brown.
Fiona Hill has US connections but fell out with Trump. General Richard Barrons is highly thought of too.
I predict a very Europe focused conclusion to this, looking to onshore R&D and production ideally within the UK but especially within Europe with more ties to Germany and Scandinavia.
In other news, the new VP pick thinks we are the first Islamic nation to aquire nuclear weapons, that'll ingratiate him to some. 🤔
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 16, 2024 9:39:48 GMT
Looks like the Welsh FM is going, several resignations today.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 16, 2024 15:01:06 GMT
Once France hands back Calais then we can start talking. 😁 www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjk3zlpd5l4oI see the National in Scotland has issued an apology too. Seems like we aren't the only crass ones out there.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 16, 2024 15:15:01 GMT
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Post by supergas on Jul 17, 2024 9:07:50 GMT
Looks like the Welsh FM is going, several resignations today. Starmer on Gething less than 118 days ago: Dodgy donations, on holiday when important work needed to be done, misleading the covid inquiry, his ministers, the rest of the party and the press...
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Post by yattongas on Jul 17, 2024 9:16:17 GMT
Looks like the Welsh FM is going, several resignations today. Starmer on Gething less than 118 days ago: Dodgy donations, on holiday when important work needed to be done, misleading the covid inquiry, his ministers, the rest of the party and the press... Sounds like you’re reminiscing for the good old Tory times when this sort of thing was a daily occurrence. You have to wean yourself of this political crack Super ! 😂 Good thing he’s gone by the way 😄
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 17, 2024 9:29:00 GMT
"Data, external from the IFS shows that while average private sector inflation-adjusted wages are around 4% higher than in 2010, public sector wages are still around 2.5% lower. The average pay for nurses is down 6.5% over that time, teachers’ wages are 9% lower and doctors' 15% lower" www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e5pw1qpx8o
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 17, 2024 9:37:48 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 17, 2024 9:50:14 GMT
"EU sources said while there was a “clear” appetite for coordination on foreign policy and it was happy to look at the trading relationship, which has become more challenging with Brexit requirements for customs and standards documentation.
They stressed the original Brexit deal was not open for renegotiation, something that chimes with the prime minister’s pledge before the election that the UK would not re-enter the EU single market or customs union.
The new EU relations minister, Nick Thomas-Symonds, visited Brussels on Monday for an introductory meeting with Maroš Šefčovič, the vice-president of the European Commission who leads on relations with the UK.
EU sources said meetings with Starmer on the sidelines of last week’s Nato summit went well; they were aware of the UK’s desire to “reset” the relationship and if there was a desire to go forward with a new strategic relationship they would entertain that.
Asked whether this would include a UK-EU summit, mirroring those that happen with many other non-EU countries such as Egypt, senior officials said they were “not excluding anything”."
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 17, 2024 10:55:55 GMT
One thing I noticed from the King's Speech was how well Labour and Conservative MPs were getting on without the pressure of party politics.
Shame that doesn't happen more often. Seems to be the case with Committees, I'd like to see more powers given to Committees.
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