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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 9, 2024 19:10:25 GMT
EU voting this weekend, predicted to see a swing to the right.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 9, 2024 19:38:44 GMT
Interesting, thoughts FG? "French President Emmanuel Macron has dissolved France's National Assembly and called a snap election. In elections to the European Parliament, Marine le Pen's National Rally party won about 32% of the vote - a 10 point increase on the last EU election in 2019. It is also more than double the 15% taken by Mr Macron's Renaissance party, according to exit polls. Mr Macron said he could not "pretend nothing had happened" and admitted the EU election was "no good" for his government. The "rise of nationalists" is a danger to France and to Europe, he said. Speaking at the Elysee Palace, Mr Macron said: "I've decided to give you back the choice of our parliamentary future through the vote. "I am therefore dissolving the National Assembly." " news.sky.com/story/president-emmanuel-macron-dissolves-french-national-assembly-and-calls-for-snap-election-13150407
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 9, 2024 20:03:11 GMT
Interesting, thoughts FG? "French President Emmanuel Macron has dissolved France's National Assembly and called a snap election. In elections to the European Parliament, Marine le Pen's National Rally party won about 32% of the vote - a 10 point increase on the last EU election in 2019. It is also more than double the 15% taken by Mr Macron's Renaissance party, according to exit polls. Mr Macron said he could not "pretend nothing had happened" and admitted the EU election was "no good" for his government. The "rise of nationalists" is a danger to France and to Europe, he said. Speaking at the Elysee Palace, Mr Macron said: "I've decided to give you back the choice of our parliamentary future through the vote. "I am therefore dissolving the National Assembly." " news.sky.com/story/president-emmanuel-macron-dissolves-french-national-assembly-and-calls-for-snap-election-13150407As you will know Stuart recent history is littered with periods of dominance by the left or right,the issue here is who will benefit by a period of dominance at this time by the right,my worry is traditionally Right wing governments are more insular and I can see the fragile coalition against Putin disentergrating
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 9, 2024 21:35:35 GMT
Belgium PM to resign. Definite fallout, despite the cheers from some, the only real winners will be unsavoury ones.
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Post by francegas on Jun 10, 2024 8:27:51 GMT
Interesting, thoughts FG? "French President Emmanuel Macron has dissolved France's National Assembly and called a snap election. In elections to the European Parliament, Marine le Pen's National Rally party won about 32% of the vote - a 10 point increase on the last EU election in 2019. It is also more than double the 15% taken by Mr Macron's Renaissance party, according to exit polls. Mr Macron said he could not "pretend nothing had happened" and admitted the EU election was "no good" for his government. The "rise of nationalists" is a danger to France and to Europe, he said. Speaking at the Elysee Palace, Mr Macron said: "I've decided to give you back the choice of our parliamentary future through the vote. "I am therefore dissolving the National Assembly." " news.sky.com/story/president-emmanuel-macron-dissolves-french-national-assembly-and-calls-for-snap-election-13150407Talk about gambling with your career and country. He's taking a massive risk and potentially putting the country into chaos. If he loses a number of seats he could end up with a Prime Minister from the far right....that'll work well between the two of them. I don't understand his logic in calling an election surely it would have been better to have seen his term out.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 10, 2024 8:47:36 GMT
Interesting, thoughts FG? "French President Emmanuel Macron has dissolved France's National Assembly and called a snap election. In elections to the European Parliament, Marine le Pen's National Rally party won about 32% of the vote - a 10 point increase on the last EU election in 2019. It is also more than double the 15% taken by Mr Macron's Renaissance party, according to exit polls. Mr Macron said he could not "pretend nothing had happened" and admitted the EU election was "no good" for his government. The "rise of nationalists" is a danger to France and to Europe, he said. Speaking at the Elysee Palace, Mr Macron said: "I've decided to give you back the choice of our parliamentary future through the vote. "I am therefore dissolving the National Assembly." " news.sky.com/story/president-emmanuel-macron-dissolves-french-national-assembly-and-calls-for-snap-election-13150407Talk about gambling with your career and country. He's taking a massive risk and potentially putting the country into chaos. If he loses a number of seats he could end up with a Prime Minister from the far right....that'll work well between the two of them. I don't understand his logic in calling an election surely it would have been better to have seen his term out. He who dares Rodney !
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 10, 2024 9:15:00 GMT
Interesting, thoughts FG? "French President Emmanuel Macron has dissolved France's National Assembly and called a snap election. In elections to the European Parliament, Marine le Pen's National Rally party won about 32% of the vote - a 10 point increase on the last EU election in 2019. It is also more than double the 15% taken by Mr Macron's Renaissance party, according to exit polls. Mr Macron said he could not "pretend nothing had happened" and admitted the EU election was "no good" for his government. The "rise of nationalists" is a danger to France and to Europe, he said. Speaking at the Elysee Palace, Mr Macron said: "I've decided to give you back the choice of our parliamentary future through the vote. "I am therefore dissolving the National Assembly." " news.sky.com/story/president-emmanuel-macron-dissolves-french-national-assembly-and-calls-for-snap-election-13150407Talk about gambling with your career and country. He's taking a massive risk and potentially putting the country into chaos. If he loses a number of seats he could end up with a Prime Minister from the far right....that'll work well between the two of them. I don't understand his logic in calling an election surely it would have been better to have seen his term out. Was the turnout 51%? I would guess that he sees this as a wake up call to the nation. Get turnout up, assume those with a middle ground view would be now voting in order to blunt the right wing* swing. Two things have been highlighted here, although "reminded" would be a better word: Not voting lets in the politically motivated (usually the extreme wings) looking for protest votes. 'Mainstream' parties need to genuinely be aware of grievances and act accordingly. Ignoring cries for help results in the extremists, both far left and far right, depending on the preferred flavour. That's why Labour need to show quickly how things are improving if/when they get in. Just as importantly, the Conservatives have to drag themselves back to the centre ground. As much as it would be amusing and poetic justice if they are hammered at the election, if the answer is to ape Farage or even bring him into the flock, then that's going to split the country even more. *I'm not thinking 'right of centre', more Le Pen and beyond.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 10, 2024 9:20:08 GMT
One of the Conservative voters in the Poll has removed their vote. 🤔
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 10, 2024 9:22:22 GMT
Douglas Ross leaving the Scottish Conservatives, isn't there some financial irregularities here?
Manifesto week, Lib Dems today.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 10, 2024 10:01:38 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 10, 2024 10:23:28 GMT
One of the Conservative voters in the Poll has removed their vote. 🤔 Yeah , thought long and hard about it and can’t go with my heart and vote Tory 😞
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 10, 2024 10:35:24 GMT
One of the Conservative voters in the Poll has removed their vote. 🤔 Yeah , thought long and hard about it and can’t go with my heart and vote Tory 😞 Didn't think you needed a heart to vote Tory?
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Post by yattongas on Jun 10, 2024 10:49:49 GMT
Yeah , thought long and hard about it and can’t go with my heart and vote Tory 😞 Didn't think you needed a heart to vote Tory? I find that very offensive! 😡
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 10, 2024 10:58:14 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 10, 2024 11:39:36 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 10, 2024 12:40:41 GMT
Who thinks this is appropriate at the moment?
Chairman Richard Tice said the party wants to raise the threshold for paying income tax to £20,000 and the point at which small business pay VAT from £90,000 to £150,000;
This so-called "great British tax cut" would be funded by overhauling the Bank of England, though it's seen Reform accused of pursing a strategy of "Trussonomics on steroids"
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 10, 2024 12:53:04 GMT
No doubt some will put it down to the Tories running scared and MSM paranoia, digging out dirt to undermine Reform. 🙄 "A Reform UK candidate claimed the country would be "far better" if it had "taken Hitler up on his offer of neutrality" instead of fighting the Nazis in World War Two. Ian Gribbin, the party's candidate in Bexhill and Battle, also wrote online that women were the "sponging gender" and should be "deprived of health care". In posts from 2022 on the Unherd magazine website, seen by the BBC, he said Winston Churchill was "abysmal" and praised Russian President Vladimir Putin. A Reform spokesman said the comments were not "endorsements" but "written with an eye to inconvenient perspectives and truths", while his remarks about women were "tongue in cheek". Mr Gribbin declined to comment." www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmrwexv4ko
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Post by yattongas on Jun 10, 2024 18:41:05 GMT
Listening to a debate about VAT on school fees , parents and private school teachers bleating on and on and how 230,000 extra state school places will be needed for kids of those parents who won’t be able to pay. I’m going on the record to call this out as absolute scaremongering bullshit and it’ll end up being 25% of that number at most Ps an excellent policy 👍
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 10, 2024 19:40:46 GMT
Listening to a debate about VAT on school fees , parents and private school teachers bleating on and on and how 230,000 extra state school places will be needed for kids of those parents who won’t be able to pay. I’m going on the record to call this out as absolute scaremongering bullshit and it’ll end up being 25% of that number at most Ps an excellent policy 👍 That's still an 50000plus if the figures are right and depending on the demographics that could be a considerable financial burden for already stretched Councils
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Post by yattongas on Jun 10, 2024 19:52:30 GMT
Listening to a debate about VAT on school fees , parents and private school teachers bleating on and on and how 230,000 extra state school places will be needed for kids of those parents who won’t be able to pay. I’m going on the record to call this out as absolute scaremongering bullshit and it’ll end up being 25% of that number at most Ps an excellent policy 👍 That's still an 50000plus if the figures are right and depending on the demographics that could be a considerable financial burden for already stretched Councils Not really with falling birth rates. Spread out throughout the uk that’ll be minimal numbers per school.
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