Top 8 budget

I would still like someone to explain how we went from losses of 1-1.5 million under Higgs to close to 4 times that under WAQ whilst everything we bought, went up. 

I get it, you're talking about the actual players, not the total amount we have spent on them so far. I wonder what SwissGas has to say about this?

Thank you bamber, I didn’t think it was that hard to work out.

It’s all about FRP and it’s why Chelsea were giving out 7 year deals and this loop hole is closed. I will try and explain it, if you have to pay someone £3k a week it has to be in your budget and cash flow. When you sign a player it can paid in instalments, we’ve have never paid Peterborough upfront £800k on JCH, some could have gone in next seasons budget.

If we stuck in £400k of the JCH deal in our budget then fine, but we might have given Wilson a £50k signing on fee instead for example. Now re the £800k for JCH, the player and agent usually gets paid out of this, most players have loyalty bonus payments which they get when they are sold, they don’t get this when they ask for a transfer request and it’s why some big clubs force the hand this way on the player to save themselves a payment.

We have decided to use our budget on quantity over less players and paying the odd fee. Wael and TG would have said, here is your £4.5 million, you are carrying over £3 million on current deals, wheel and deal, send out Connolly, spend as you like.

The reason Stoke City survived in the Premiership, Denise Coates is the richest women in the world, because of the money they had come in from EPL, she has instant cash from her betting business and they signed the likes of Shaqiri for cash. They guzumped clubs who were much bigger than them who never had the cash flow. Today, she wants to spend over £500 million on the team but can’t because of FRP, they are desperate to go up, she can spend it all then.

We’ve got a good budget, Barton spent it his own way.

FRP doesn't apply to L1 or L2 clubs, SCMP applies to those two leagues, so either we could afford him or, if not, the owners would have to contribute towards his wages directly.

Assuming we've a top 8 budget are we on course to have a top 8 turnover/attendance (https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/attendances) or was the budget set on the assumption we'd be now utilising the new stands for the festive etc games? I believe every club as to send a forecast of turnover to the EFL and if we're out with the forecast they will apply a Transfer Embargo!

It'll be interesting to see if MT plays a full strength side at Norwich in an attempt to boost our turnover with a good cup run, perhaps that's why played a weakened side yesterday, as there was no real logic in resting Ward & JM.

Budgets, wages and bonuses are an unknown, but at least we have speculated a bit on the new stand and even if Taylor gets sold in the next two seasons, we should still get some transfer fee.

The stand will see more large away followings over the next few years. There should be at least two large clubs coming down next season that could fill the South Stand and the Wrexham phenomenon could see a few fairweather fans turning up to see what all the fuss is about.

Hopefully add in a home 3rd FA cup tie or two and the extra few thousand added to the attendance each time will create quite a bit of money.

Just looking at the average L1 attendances in the link in my previous post does make you wonder if they were banking on getting around 2,000 more fans at each home game, as that would then put us in the top 8.