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Post by bluegas on Dec 10, 2023 10:49:51 GMT
Mods please move this to general chat, it’s long gone past Rovers related content. Not afraid to admit I supported JB as our manager, he’s now history as far as I am concerned and Gaschat is rapidly heading that way with this continual Barton and Barton supporters bashing. Totally agree with you Bideford. I'm starting to wonder if there's some bizarre agenda behind it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 10:55:22 GMT
Mods please move this to general chat, it’s long gone past Rovers related content. Not afraid to admit I supported JB as our manager, he’s now history as far as I am concerned and Gaschat is rapidly heading that way with this continual Barton and Barton supporters bashing. Totally agree with you Bideford. I'm starting to wonder if there's some bizarre agenda behind it. Yep. It’s called making people open their eyes so we never willingly accept a low life like this bloke into the club again.
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Post by pucklegas on Dec 10, 2023 11:47:19 GMT
Mods please move this to general chat, it’s long gone past Rovers related content. Not afraid to admit I supported JB as our manager, he’s now history as far as I am concerned and Gaschat is rapidly heading that way with this continual Barton and Barton supporters bashing. I was just going to post the same, he divided us when he was here, now every post is hijacked with talking about the attention seeking child! He is dividing us again, he was not the messiah just a naughty little boy!
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Post by perryfenwick on Dec 10, 2023 12:13:22 GMT
It was obvious that he'd be divisive - exactly the reason why the man child WAQ shouldn't have hired him. But then the club was his personal plaything and he likes selfies with famous people so that's why the bloke got hired.
He's not the messiah - he has achieved nothing that anyone with a pro licence and a giant League Two budget couldn't do - but he was treated as such, firstly by sad old men who reminisce over 80s hooliganism and wannabe tough nuts in their teens, then by half the fanbase as Eliot Anderson pulled him out of mediocrity, because we're so starved of success as a club that anyone will do as long as we're not sh**e for give minutes.
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Post by tommym9 on Dec 10, 2023 12:16:00 GMT
x.com/joey7barton/status/1733778080940843166?s=48Still at it Side note: For everyone who's been called a snowflake or told to f**k off down AG because they've raised objections to JBs behaviour, the temptation to scream I TOLD YOU SO is pretty overwhelming Especially when his behaviour has been played down at every opportunity by the people who worship him
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Post by devonwhite9 on Dec 10, 2023 12:18:20 GMT
x.com/joey7barton/status/1733778080940843166?s=48Still at it Side note: For everyone who's been called a snowflake or told to f**k off down AG because they've raised objections to JBs behaviour, the temptation to scream I TOLD YOU SO is pretty overwhelming Especially when his behaviour has been played down at every opportunity by the people who worship him Was a case of when not if he moved onto race unfortunately
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Post by RD on Dec 10, 2023 12:21:46 GMT
x.com/joey7barton/status/1733778080940843166?s=48Still at it Side note: For everyone who's been called a snowflake or told to f**k off down AG because they've raised objections to JBs behaviour, the temptation to scream I TOLD YOU SO is pretty overwhelming Especially when his behaviour has been played down at every opportunity by the people who worship him Nail. On. Head. Whilst we were bashing Barton, his biggest lovers were throwing horrific abuse at other Rovers fans. I gave as good as I got, but there were many who were pushed off the forum by the bully-boys; the very same ones now running round screaming "la la la I'm not listening" or "he's gone - move on". No apologies from the bully boys or acknowledgment he's utter filth like we explicitly (and correctly) pointed out at the time. So no. We will not go quietly. We will hold you to account for holding a scum back in such high regard. Humble pie. And my oh my it's delicious.
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Post by gasify on Dec 10, 2023 12:22:49 GMT
Does the fact that women give birth have anything to do with this? My wife has taken about 3 years out of work due to pregnancy, which might be disruptive to a business. It also meant that male colleagues advanced during those times and were less likely to need time off for future family planning. On a wider note, the best candidates should get the jobs. Box ticking for the sake of diversity is dangerous and can cause unrest in a workforce. Look at the fire brigade and police for easy examples. As for female commentators..dont really care as ill mute it if its a man or woman that we aren't enjoying listening to. There is an obvious push towards diversity on the TV though with adverts, soaps and football going beyond the %s of diversity in the UK for some reason. Its not unnoticed. Yeah, TV is definitely not representing real life at all. I watched a South Park episode recently taking the rise out of Disney. The Disney execs answer to making new movies was "put a chick in it and make her gay" Are we still allowed to laugh at South Park? To be honest as a self proclaimed left wing wokey. That episode of South Park is hilarious. To me, that is the difference between the "Woke" and the "Gammon". Woke can see the funny side of things when they are presented in such a way.
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Post by gasify on Dec 10, 2023 12:26:02 GMT
x.com/joey7barton/status/1733778080940843166?s=48Still at it Side note: For everyone who's been called a snowflake or told to f**k off down AG because they've raised objections to JBs behaviour, the temptation to scream I TOLD YOU SO is pretty overwhelming Especially when his behaviour has been played down at every opportunity by the people who worship him Nail. On. Head. Whilst we were bashing Barton, his biggest lovers were throwing horrific abuse at other Rovers fans. I gave as good as I got, but there were many who were pushed off the forum by the bully-boys; the very same ones now running round screaming "la la la I'm not listening" or "he's gone - move on". No apologies from the bully boys or acknowledgment he's utter filth like we explicitly (and correctly) pointed out at the time. So no. We will not go quietly. We will hold you to account for holding a scum back in such high regard. Humble pie. And my oh my it's delicious. After announcing myself as Woke and also a self proclaimed snow flake, I can't let this go. That phrase is homophobic and should not be tolerated.
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 10, 2023 12:31:31 GMT
It happens. Currently as we have black rock/Vanguard imposing political values un democratically on any listed institution, several companies have targets for female management % by specific dates. You are assessed on gender balance in workforces and boardrooms. This means when a role comes up, this is a factor is if they don’t hire more women at certain levels they will lose capital inflows. www.pionline.com/esg/blackrock-focus-board-diversity-climate-risk-plans-2022“ In the U.K., BlackRock will push companies to have at least 33% female directors and at least one director of color.” So yes, it’s objectively a hiring criteria as the most wealthy investor on planet earth is basically saying if you have too much penis or pale faces in senior roles you have to hire fewer. I let’s say the next 3 roles just happen to have the best candidates who didn’t happen to be in these groups and they legitimately hired them on a fair assessment, they would face financial penalties. The counter to this is the idea businesses have the candidates but they are run by racists and sexists who deliberately sabotage the careers of others at the expense of their margin. Which I think it preposterous. The main determinate of privilege in this country is your economic background and that’s where you get the links and contacts to get high up - and the skills to do those roles. This tends to lend itself to those firmly established in a region with long family histories of money and connections. Go to China and you’ll find the same. It’s Chinese families with sons and daughters who have mixed with the elite who get the roles. Those ESG criteria will not be levied on the Chinese to ensure they have Europeans or Indians in their boardrooms, because it’s pretty obvious why there’s not many people from Stoke running Chinese companies. I'm only quoting you as you are the latest post but its an interesting debate. The gender in management question I think I can understand. Roughly 50% of people are women so if all things are fair and equal then should not top management jobs be roughly around that too? If not, how do we redress that? I accept that there are some jobs more suited to certain genders (there are always exceptions). I can also accept your point that "positive discrimination" isn't always positive and that there may be, in some cases, over representation in the name of diversity. In an ideal world a meritocracy would be better but there has been a white male patriarchy that the pendulum needs to swing a bit too far the other way to compensate? I'm not a fan of discrimination but is it necessary? I don't know the answer, and I'm not suggesting it is necessary. Well, this is where I bring up the subject of footballers. Far more black footballers representative to the population. Look at the England and French football teams. Naturally we know it’s a meritocracy and for whatever reason, there are more quality black footballers. It could be genetic, it could be that simply more black lads are interested in it. Either way, I feel no need to “redress the balance”. I don’t care. Perhaps for whatever reason, there are greater numbers of competent male managers in the market. GPs are schewed female as is the health service in general. Refuse workers slant male. The top jobs are dominated by males but so are most of the least desirable. Physical, taxing jobs are overwhelmingly male. Grossly higher numbers of men die in workplace accidents. Life expectancy is lower. Health is generally poorer from occupation. What are we doing to address that? Tumbleweeds. It’s just mainly middle class women on twitter wanting a fast track into a job they like if you ask me. My bin men are pale, male and stale but that’s never an issue is it? My assumption for why there are more men at the top end of most fields are twofold: - Intelligence is about equal but male intelligence is a far broader curve. Hence both the least and most intelligent tend to tilt male. Doesn’t mean you have outliers, but that’s fairly well estabished. - women tend to marry across and up in social class. Hence men, for breeding prospects, have to attempt to create a good income to provide for a family and attract a mate. Therefore no matter how much women earn, a man has to earn more to be considered desirable. About half to 60% of men breed and pass their genes on, 85-90% of women do. What does that show? That about half of men are having more than one family, and half never mate. Everyone knows this deep down. We all know what being wealthy and successful as a man does to your dating life. Men do not generally select partners based on what they earn, but for women it’s a huge part of it. So ironically, it’s women’s preferences in a mate which is motivating men to out earn them. Then when they do, it’s discrimination! It’s a far deeper topic than “muh men are sexist”.
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Post by gashead79 on Dec 10, 2023 12:55:15 GMT
x.com/joey7barton/status/1733778080940843166?s=48Still at it Side note: For everyone who's been called a snowflake or told to f**k off down AG because they've raised objections to JBs behaviour, the temptation to scream I TOLD YOU SO is pretty overwhelming Especially when his behaviour has been played down at every opportunity by the people who worship him Nail. On. Head. Whilst we were bashing Barton, his biggest lovers were throwing horrific abuse at other Rovers fans. I gave as good as I got, but there were many who were pushed off the forum by the bully-boys; the very same ones now running round screaming "la la la I'm not listening" or "he's gone - move on". No apologies from the bully boys or acknowledgment he's utter filth like we explicitly (and correctly) pointed out at the time. So no. We will not go quietly. We will hold you to account for holding a scum back in such high regard. Humble pie. And my oh my it's delicious. List the bully boys please? I'm sure it's OK to do that so that we can assess the categories. If I appear on your list and have made you or anybody else feel bad, then I apologise. I just want the team to do well and don't care too much who the manager is and certainly won't be blowing smoke or hurling abuse at someone trying to win games for us. Your posts will attract negativity though. This is because your words are pretty close to crossing the line and a bit outrageous tbh. Calling people bum boys, and banging on about scum, filth, high regard, is head shaking stuff imo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 13:01:47 GMT
x.com/joey7barton/status/1733778080940843166?s=48Still at it Side note: For everyone who's been called a snowflake or told to f**k off down AG because they've raised objections to JBs behaviour, the temptation to scream I TOLD YOU SO is pretty overwhelming Especially when his behaviour has been played down at every opportunity by the people who worship him Nail. On. Head. Whilst we were bashing Barton, his biggest lovers were throwing horrific abuse at other Rovers fans. I gave as good as I got, but there were many who were pushed off the forum by the bully-boys; the very same ones now running round screaming "la la la I'm not listening" or "he's gone - move on". No apologies from the bully boys or acknowledgment he's utter filth like we explicitly (and correctly) pointed out at the time. So no. We will not go quietly. We will hold you to account for holding a scum back in such high regard. Humble pie. And my oh my it's delicious. Both brilliant posts and Tommy’s especially. We are not the problem, we are enjoying our debate but we’ve got people like Bideford demanding the thread is locked or moved just because he doesn’t like it. This thread is 1000% based on Barton our ex manager, if you don’t like it, don’t open it, there are 15 other threads on page 1! I hold a leadership position at work, I can’t get involved in all conversations because of my role. I have a local pub, I know the majority in it, I choose not to get involved in some conversations like Brexit, I know where it goes. I suggest some of these snowflakes, PC Reg Hollis grow up and learn in life we have free speech and everyone is entitled to an opinion. I wonder how some of them navigate life, I really do. I await the usual crap, what has this thread become, it’s become a brilliant Barton bashing thread calling out the 💩🏠’s who defended and we will carry on posting as much as we want.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 13:03:48 GMT
Nail. On. Head. Whilst we were bashing Barton, his biggest lovers were throwing horrific abuse at other Rovers fans. I gave as good as I got, but there were many who were pushed off the forum by the bully-boys; the very same ones now running round screaming "la la la I'm not listening" or "he's gone - move on". No apologies from the bully boys or acknowledgment he's utter filth like we explicitly (and correctly) pointed out at the time. So no. We will not go quietly. We will hold you to account for holding a scum back in such high regard. Humble pie. And my oh my it's delicious. List the bully boys please? I'm sure it's OK to do that so that we can assess the categories. If I appear on your list and have made you or anybody else feel bad, then I apologise. I just want the team to do well and don't care too much who the manager is and certainly won't be blowing smoke or hurling abuse at someone trying to win games for us. Your posts will attract negativity though. This is because your words are pretty close to crossing the line and a bit outrageous tbh. Calling people bum boys, and banging on about scum, filth, high regard, is head shaking stuff imo. Plenty on here cross the line, I had a mod publicly tell me to feck off Friday, my use of language doesn’t generally touch that.
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Post by gashead79 on Dec 10, 2023 13:07:15 GMT
List the bully boys please? I'm sure it's OK to do that so that we can assess the categories. If I appear on your list and have made you or anybody else feel bad, then I apologise. I just want the team to do well and don't care too much who the manager is and certainly won't be blowing smoke or hurling abuse at someone trying to win games for us. Your posts will attract negativity though. This is because your words are pretty close to crossing the line and a bit outrageous tbh. Calling people bum boys, and banging on about scum, filth, high regard, is head shaking stuff imo. Plenty on here cross the line, I had a mod publicly tell me to feck off Friday, my use of language doesn’t generally touch that. I think you are doing a grand job of being a wum. Intentional or not, I'm not sure but you are winding people up. Maybe people should chill out a bit? It's only a game played by our tinpot club!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 13:13:16 GMT
Plenty on here cross the line, I had a mod publicly tell me to feck off Friday, my use of language doesn’t generally touch that. I think you are doing a grand job of being a wum. Intentional or not, I'm not sure but you are winding people up. Maybe people should chill out a bit? It's only a game played by our tinpot club! m Again it’s the ability to see a point or opinion and not let it rile you, you love it at times ****n! We’ve never had such a manager to split the fan base, this will run for a long time yet. I had to put up with it for 3 years, 6 weeks now and people what anything Barton mentioned shut down
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Post by bluegas on Dec 10, 2023 13:23:06 GMT
List the bully boys please? I'm sure it's OK to do that so that we can assess the categories. If I appear on your list and have made you or anybody else feel bad, then I apologise. I just want the team to do well and don't care too much who the manager is and certainly won't be blowing smoke or hurling abuse at someone trying to win games for us. Your posts will attract negativity though. This is because your words are pretty close to crossing the line and a bit outrageous tbh. Calling people bum boys, and banging on about scum, filth, high regard, is head shaking stuff imo.[/quote] Surely already crossed it? Why abusing your fellow fans is thought acceptable baffles me. As you say, let's have names.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 13:39:24 GMT
gashead79 I also hadn’t posted for over a week, I was chilling Thursday night and was contacted by a MOD asking if I was impersonating another poster with a fake account. I’m not sure I can win with some posters
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Post by Somersetgas on Dec 10, 2023 13:43:26 GMT
If I had my way this thread would be in General Chat, just putting my opinion out there for people to know where I stand, guess that makes me a woke snowflake, hey ho, I’ve been called far worse in my life, just don’t call me a Daily Mail reader, it’s not Rovers relevant now, nor have I ever been a Barton supporter. Perhaps some calling people snowflakes and Reg Hollis, should look in the mirror and grow up. Threatening language if you disagree, with someone, discussions are fine but just trying to provocateur others isn’t. The past can’t be changed ref Barton, he was the Manager appointed by the then owner, end of the day it’s his money and decision. I will stand by my decision to filter out swear words that I see, so they can’t be used in future, children also read this forum and I for one don’t want to see it. Since being a mod I have actively done this. Petty name calling back and forth, it’s pathetic, ten reported posts so far alone on this thread, more than the amount reported in the last three weeks, however I’m shocked there isn’t more. As for the person asking to meet mods in the Fanzone before the game? I told everyone I was in the Anchor for one….. did annyone message me to talk? No. I can’t comment on other Mods whereabouts as I don’t follow them about. I’m not going to comment anymore or pander to the petty games on this thread and ego massage. Enjoy your Sundays everyone, I’m off to support the boy playing football this afternoon. I will be making no apology for this comment or any other that I make.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 14:09:35 GMT
Fair play Somerset, neither of us are going to apologise, we’ve done it to death. I had plans Saturday to be in Grounded, you were one to the three who said I was Gasdust, re the fan Zone, assumed you would be near it before kick off, walking in etc and I just wanted to prove your suspicions wrong.
I won’t mention you Mods again and this will be my last post for a while now, I hope in turn you don’t talk about me again in your group but I can’t stop you but on my part you have your word.
I wish you a blessed afternoon watching your son play football and I hope he wins. And finally, I will come and say hello in the Anchor before a home game soon, regardless of opinions, I wish no Gashead any harm or ill will.
I blame two men for all this, Wael for letting someone hijack our club and the individual himself, Barton.
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Post by chewbacca on Dec 10, 2023 14:14:00 GMT
Absolutely delighted I didn’t pay this man’s wages.
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