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Post by aghast on Jan 9, 2024 23:42:57 GMT
Been out all day and was surprised to see how this thread has escalated overnight. Is there any truth in the suggestion made earlier that tickets sold to non ST holders will be cancelled and offered to ST holders first? I haven't had any notifications from the club about this. If the club are apologising to ST holders, they'll have a lot more apologising to non ST holders who bought a ticket in good faith. As an innocent soul, I logged in to the ticketing section via my account, saw tickets were for sale, and bought a ticket. Not realising the pain I was apparently inflicting on my ST owning comrades. I do sympathise though. No tickets are being cancelled the season ticket holders who haven't got one are trying to be accommodated in there preferred stand but there is no promise this can happen but can still get a ticket for another part of the ground. It's a bit of a balls up but the club are doing its best to put it right. Ok thanks. There was a suggestion or hint made earlier that tickets could be cancelled but obviously incorrect. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Jan 10, 2024 4:55:28 GMT
I agree. When I go to the club shop on Thursday am I supposed to say “oh , before you give me a ticket can you make sure all ST holders have got one if they want one, otherwise I will decline, and take my rightful place awaiting confirmation they are all catered for” 😂 Well yeah. That's the debate here isn't it? The club/TM have fudged it. Its not the fans fault for buying things😀 Looks like its getting resolved now though which is positive. My apologies for being grumpy yesterday. It was an an annoyance with the club/ticketmaster for not having sold tickets as promised. You, Equaliser and others...UTFG. 🏴☠️ |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 10, 2024 6:52:11 GMT
Well yeah. That's the debate here isn't it? The club/TM have fudged it. Its not the fans fault for buying things😀 Looks like its getting resolved now though which is positive. My apologies for being grumpy yesterday. It was an an annoyance with the club/ticketmaster for not having sold tickets as promised. You, Equaliser and others...UTFG. 🏴☠️ No worries mate, it's a valid reason to be grumpy about! |
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Post by dudelebowski on Jan 10, 2024 7:29:44 GMT
I can’t be arsed to go now , I’ll Do Barnsley away instead. A huge game in our season that seems to have slipped under the radar in all the Norwich/Liverpool hype. It’s a massive 90mins for us. See ya there😎🤙🏻 |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 10, 2024 7:39:30 GMT
Well yeah. That's the debate here isn't it? The club/TM have fudged it. Its not the fans fault for buying things😀 Looks like its getting resolved now though which is positive. My apologies for being grumpy yesterday. It was an an annoyance with the club/ticketmaster for not having sold tickets as promised. You, Equaliser and others...UTFG. 🏴☠️ Fair play. Grumpy Sod.... |
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Post by gasify on Jan 10, 2024 9:15:10 GMT
I don't think anyones criticising you for buying tickets, if they're available. That isn't the problem. The problem is that the club screwed up and sold season ticket holders tickets to you, and others, ahead of them, and that many 'part time' supporters got a ticket ahead of regulars i.e. Season Ticket holders. What the club do to put it right is for them to work out. Something which they have so far tried, and failed dismally, to do. We hope they might learn from this debacle, but I doubt it. I was talking with my season ticket holder mate (who still hasn't got a ticket) and we were laughing because we expected them to screw this up! ‘Part time’ supporters are very important too you know, not everyone is able to purchase a Season Ticket due to many, many reasons. They are no lesser a Gashead than a ST Holder 👍🏾 I'm not sure I agree with this. A season ticket holder is demonstrating a commitment to the club, a non season ticket holder isn't demonstrating that commitment. A season ticket holder would prioritise Rovers home games, a non season ticket holder doesn't prioritise that. Otherwise, why wouldn't you have a season ticket? It doesn't make them any more of a fan but it does show more commitment to the club and that should be recognised and rewarded by the club. |
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Post by badengas on Jan 10, 2024 9:41:43 GMT
‘Part time’ supporters are very important too you know, not everyone is able to purchase a Season Ticket due to many, many reasons. They are no lesser a Gashead than a ST Holder 👍🏾 I'm not sure I agree with this. A season ticket holder is demonstrating a commitment to the club, a non season ticket holder isn't demonstrating that commitment. A season ticket holder would prioritise Rovers home games, a non season ticket holder doesn't prioritise that. Otherwise, why wouldn't you have a season ticket? It doesn't make them any more of a fan but it does show more commitment to the club and that should be recognised and rewarded by the club. Or they have more money, don't work Saturday afternoon or Tuesday evening, haven't got family commitments ? I'm not disagreeing that Season Ticket holders get first go, but we're all in this together Gasheads x |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 10, 2024 9:49:07 GMT
I'm not sure I agree with this. A season ticket holder is demonstrating a commitment to the club, a non season ticket holder isn't demonstrating that commitment. A season ticket holder would prioritise Rovers home games, a non season ticket holder doesn't prioritise that. Otherwise, why wouldn't you have a season ticket? It doesn't make them any more of a fan but it does show more commitment to the club and that should be recognised and rewarded by the club. Or they have more money, don't work Saturday afternoon or Tuesday evening, haven't got family commitments ? I'm not disagreeing that Season Ticket holders get first go, but we're all in this together Gasheads x I was an almost ever present at Twerton but neither my dad or I could commit to a season ticket until I started working in 1993. As a result I couldn't get a ticket for the Liverpool FA Cup match, yet I knew of City fans who were there as they had Season ticket holder friends who could buy a couple. Rovers introduced a voucher scheme shortly afterwards, so many vouchers evidenced attendance and could be used for priority tickets. |
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jan 10, 2024 10:23:57 GMT
In the end it's all about cost to serve and if it's significantly cheaper to outsource then it's inevitable. I disagree that standards drop because of outsource,if you have the appropriate Service Contract etc ,standards can actually improve. There's 23 pages where many have cited a drop in standard, on a subject that never made any thread before it was out sourced - not withstanding issues with catering, kiosk, cashless Mem when the system goes down, less 50/50 revenue, turnstiles, corporate hospitality, stewarding, lack of replica kits in our short history of outsourcing. What more evidence do you need? But hey it's what's called progress, and everything nailed down to the £ is more important than a personal service that would have stopped all of the above! I remember queuing outside Eastville and Twerton for hours. I got lucky, but some did not get tickets. Very easy to romanticise how good the old days were. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 10, 2024 10:25:43 GMT
There's 23 pages where many have cited a drop in standard, on a subject that never made any thread before it was out sourced - not withstanding issues with catering, kiosk, cashless Mem when the system goes down, less 50/50 revenue, turnstiles, corporate hospitality, stewarding, lack of replica kits in our short history of outsourcing. What more evidence do you need? But hey it's what's called progress, and everything nailed down to the £ is more important than a personal service that would have stopped all of the above! If you read my post I am not talking about this specifically,it's about the principle of out sourcing in general,it can and does work and can be cost effective. As I have clearly said it's about the Service Contract and the ability/capability to manage the outsource partner to the levels agreed in the Agreement. Hope that clarifies my original post. Thank you for reply. Yes I agree it can work in the real world, but often (not always) it has to be more scrutiny in managing specific areas, and most certainly has to be verified at stages throughout. We see this in local government outsourcing to private contractor. It also lends itself to more prone to corruption. I've literally seen it in real world where boss of private firm has bidded metaphorically holding hands under table with boss of government department. I'm not suggesting this is the situation here, moreover pinning everything down to a £ can in itself present other problems... |
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 10, 2024 10:46:22 GMT
If you read my post I am not talking about this specifically,it's about the principle of out sourcing in general,it can and does work and can be cost effective. As I have clearly said it's about the Service Contract and the ability/capability to manage the outsource partner to the levels agreed in the Agreement. Hope that clarifies my original post. Thank you for reply. Yes I agree it can work in the real world, but often (not always) it has to be more scrutiny in managing specific areas, and most certainly has to be verified at stages throughout. We see this in local government outsourcing to private contractor. It also lends itself to more prone to corruption. I've literally seen it in real world where boss of private firm has bidded metaphorically holding hands under table with boss of government department. I'm not suggesting this is the situation here, moreover pinning everything down to a £ can in itself present other problems... I don't disagree with the points you raise,that in my view is down to poor oversight and regulations in the business undertaking the outsourcing. In my direct experience having responsibility for this in a high street bank,the oversight was very strong ,contracts were independently vetted,ongoing service levels/costs were vetted and market comparisons were also undertaken to ensure value for money I can easily see that in smaller businesses this process can lead to inefficiency, ineffectiveness and sometimes corrupt practices. UTG |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 10, 2024 10:51:23 GMT
I think we're somewhere near there.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jan 10, 2024 11:05:28 GMT
‘Part time’ supporters are very important too you know, not everyone is able to purchase a Season Ticket due to many, many reasons. They are no lesser a Gashead than a ST Holder 👍🏾 I'm not sure I agree with this. A season ticket holder is demonstrating a commitment to the club, a non season ticket holder isn't demonstrating that commitment. A season ticket holder would prioritise Rovers home games, a non season ticket holder doesn't prioritise that. Otherwise, why wouldn't you have a season ticket? It doesn't make them any more of a fan but it does show more commitment to the club and that should be recognised and rewarded by the club. Not necessarily. I don’t live in Bristol, in fact live about 150 miles away and get to 1 in every 2 home games and most away games. Season Ticket is not cost affective. Yes agree season ticket holders should get priority, but does not make them more of a supporter. Also based upon the above argument as I prioritise away games, maybe I should get priority for all away games. (Only joking) All I’m really saying is life is not simple. |
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Post by Fetch on Jan 10, 2024 11:16:23 GMT
Anyone else got massive Playoff Semi-Final vibes to the Norwich replay?
Night game, midweek, big atmosphere, a huge "final"/cash prize on the line.
People may disagree but I think the league campaign is more or less done, beyond pushing for a Top 10 finish which should be our aim - so for me Norwich is our biggest, most important game of the season. Wouldn't be surprised to see Ward and a few others rested at Barnsley.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Jan 10, 2024 11:27:51 GMT
‘Part time’ supporters are very important too you know, not everyone is able to purchase a Season Ticket due to many, many reasons. They are no lesser a Gashead than a ST Holder 👍🏾 I'm not sure I agree with this. A season ticket holder is demonstrating a commitment to the club, a non season ticket holder isn't demonstrating that commitment. A season ticket holder would prioritise Rovers home games, a non season ticket holder doesn't prioritise that. Otherwise, why wouldn't you have a season ticket? It doesn't make them any more of a fan but it does show more commitment to the club and that should be recognised and rewarded by the club. Well, with all due respect, that’s nonsense. Lots of people aren’t in a position financially to pull out several hundred quid in one go to pay for a season ticket and can only afford to pay on a game-by-game basis. I’ve been there myself, and it doesn’t make me any less-committed than you, or any less a Gashead. |
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Post by straighouttabristol on Jan 10, 2024 11:29:45 GMT
Rovers have always been bad with ticketing, I had a season ticket for 13 years used to go most away games including in the Atkins and Grayson era’s of going places like Macclesfield in the cold when there’s only a 100 away fans to not be able to get a Chelsea away ticket when people I worked with who had never been to an away game managed to get tickets for them and their mates or forest green in the play offs when my dad queued and didn’t get one despite having a season ticket, supports club membership and going most away games that season
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 10, 2024 11:31:37 GMT
Anyone else got massive Playoff Semi-Final vibes to the Norwich replay? Night game, midweek, big atmosphere, a huge "final"/cash prize on the line. People may disagree but I think the league campaign is more or less done, beyond pushing for a Top 10 finish which should be our aim - so for me Norwich is our biggest, most important game of the season. Wouldn't be surprised to see Ward and a few others rested at Barnsley. On Radio Bristol yesterday played historic Sam Finley interview saying he would love in the future to see us pack out the Anfield road away stand, I would imagine he ll be eating raw steak before the Norwich match. 😂 |
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Post by SleepyGas on Jan 10, 2024 11:47:21 GMT
Anyone else got massive Playoff Semi-Final vibes to the Norwich replay? Night game, midweek, big atmosphere, a huge "final"/cash prize on the line. People may disagree but I think the league campaign is more or less done, beyond pushing for a Top 10 finish which should be our aim - so for me Norwich is our biggest, most important game of the season. Wouldn't be surprised to see Ward and a few others rested at Barnsley. On Radio Bristol yesterday played historic Sam Finley interview saying he would love in the future to see us pack out the Anfield road away stand, I would imagine he ll be eating raw steak before the Norwich match. 😂 Sent off after 15 minutes then? 😬😂 |
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 10, 2024 13:12:08 GMT
Anyone else got massive Playoff Semi-Final vibes to the Norwich replay? Night game, midweek, big atmosphere, a huge "final"/cash prize on the line. People may disagree but I think the league campaign is more or less done, beyond pushing for a Top 10 finish which should be our aim - so for me Norwich is our biggest, most important game of the season. Wouldn't be surprised to see Ward and a few others rested at Barnsley. On Radio Bristol yesterday played historic Sam Finley interview saying he would love in the future to see us pack out the Anfield road away stand, I would imagine he ll be eating raw steak before the Norwich match. 😂 the top players have a plant based diet. |
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 10, 2024 14:04:25 GMT
‘Part time’ supporters are very important too you know, not everyone is able to purchase a Season Ticket due to many, many reasons. They are no lesser a Gashead than a ST Holder 👍🏾 I'm not sure I agree with this. A season ticket holder is demonstrating a commitment to the club, a non season ticket holder isn't demonstrating that commitment. A season ticket holder would prioritise Rovers home games, a non season ticket holder doesn't prioritise that. Otherwise, why wouldn't you have a season ticket? It doesn't make them any more of a fan but it does show more commitment to the club and that should be recognised and rewarded by the club. “Why wouldn’t you have a season ticket?” Do we really need to answer that? Come on Gasify you’re better than that. |
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