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Post by madgas on Jan 31, 2024 12:06:04 GMT
I think the lack of red in the box, is an issue. In both seasons. He was scoring fantastic long pots when confident but that wasn't sustainable. Particularly when we switched to a position base side rather than counter attack.
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Post by singupgas on Jan 31, 2024 12:08:08 GMT
Or has AC just been hiding on one side of the pitch?
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Post by keegan on Jan 31, 2024 12:20:27 GMT
The difference is the gas are JCH first choice. He has made that very clear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2024 12:39:18 GMT
Or has AC just been hiding on one side of the pitch? stuck in no man's land. Has been wasted in that position and you can see he is not enjoying playing there.
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Post by socrates on Jan 31, 2024 13:10:34 GMT
We got £750k for Ellis Harrison from Ipswich ffs. Collins should surely be worth more than that, given ability + market inflation. Ellis was massively overpriced at 750k in my opinion. I was amazed we got that sort of money for him.
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Post by joefrankie on Jan 31, 2024 13:13:59 GMT
I’ve got a couple of mates who are QPR fans and they’ve just sent me a screenshot from something called ‘Transfers 24/7 which says that Rovers have rejected a bid of around £840,000 for AC from QPR. Almost certainly not true, but if it does come to pass, you heard it here first 😉
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Post by dudelebowski on Jan 31, 2024 13:14:40 GMT
We got £750k for Ellis Harrison from Ipswich ffs. Collins should surely be worth more than that, given ability + market inflation. Ellis was massively overpriced at 750k in my opinion. I was amazed we got that sort of money for him. And according to my ex Ipswich playing mate, so far out of his depth at that level it was unreal.
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Post by Marshy on Jan 31, 2024 13:14:52 GMT
We got £750k for Ellis Harrison from Ipswich ffs. Collins should surely be worth more than that, given ability + market inflation. Ellis was massively overpriced at 750k in my opinion. I was amazed we got that sort of money for him. Another one I remember was Marcus Browning I’m sure we got 500k for him, which was a lot of money back then! 😁
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Post by kentgas on Jan 31, 2024 13:49:54 GMT
We got £750k for Ellis Harrison from Ipswich ffs. Collins should surely be worth more than that, given ability + market inflation. Ellis was massively overpriced at 750k in my opinion. I was amazed we got that sort of money for him. At the same time, Summer 2018, Ipswich paid £1 - 1.25m for Kayden Jackson from Accrington whose track record wasn’t as good as Ellis’s imo. At the time I thought we were short changed. Ellis hasn’t done much since admittedly but neither has Jackson - 24 league goals since 2018.
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 31, 2024 14:22:04 GMT
I think the lack of red in the box, is an issue. In both seasons. He was scoring fantastic long pots when confident but that wasn't sustainable. Particularly when we switched to a position base side rather than counter attack. Yet Aaron Collins has still had more shots at goal and more shots on target than the Divisions top scorer. Devante Cole has scored 16 Aaron Collins has scored 3. Aaron Collins has had 61 shots so far this season, with 29 on target, only scoring with 3 of them. A conversion rate of just 6.25%. Last season he had 75 shots in the whole campaign, 46 were on target, scoring with 16 of them. A conversion rate of 21.33%. He's just missed a lot more chances this year, that's the reason he's only got 3 goals this season. It's as simple as that.
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Post by madgas on Jan 31, 2024 14:45:27 GMT
I think the lack of red in the box, is an issue. In both seasons. He was scoring fantastic long pots when confident but that wasn't sustainable. Particularly when we switched to a position base side rather than counter attack. Yet Aaron Collins has still had more shots at goal and more shots on target than the Divisions top scorer. Devante Cole has scored 16 Aaron Collins has scored 3. Aaron Collins has had 61 shots so far this season, with 29 on target, only scoring with 3 of them. A conversion rate of just 6.25%. Last season he had 75 shots in the whole campaign, 46 were on target, scoring with 16 of them. A conversion rate of 21.33%. He's just missed a lot more chances this year, that's the reason he's only got 3 goals this season. It's as simple as that. Because he's shooting from low XG positions. Better in a more direct approach
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Post by madgas on Jan 31, 2024 15:07:16 GMT
I think the lack of red in the box, is an issue. In both seasons. He was scoring fantastic long pots when confident but that wasn't sustainable. Particularly when we switched to a position base side rather than counter attack. Yet Aaron Collins has still had more shots at goal and more shots on target than the Divisions top scorer. Devante Cole has scored 16 Aaron Collins has scored 3. Aaron Collins has had 61 shots so far this season, with 29 on target, only scoring with 3 of them. A conversion rate of just 6.25%. Last season he had 75 shots in the whole campaign, 46 were on target, scoring with 16 of them. A conversion rate of 21.33%. He's just missed a lot more chances this year, that's the reason he's only got 3 goals this season. It's as simple as that. For all those shots... I can't recall many "sitters" missed. I think he's shooting from positions goals are unlikely. Last year I felt he outscored from the positions he got in.
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Post by bobbyjones on Jan 31, 2024 15:37:07 GMT
All this, is he good enough or is he not good enough, lets just sell him and take the money offered. He is not as good as he thinks he is and not championship standard by any means.
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Post by Marshy on Jan 31, 2024 15:43:53 GMT
Yet Aaron Collins has still had more shots at goal and more shots on target than the Divisions top scorer. Devante Cole has scored 16 Aaron Collins has scored 3. Aaron Collins has had 61 shots so far this season, with 29 on target, only scoring with 3 of them. A conversion rate of just 6.25%. Last season he had 75 shots in the whole campaign, 46 were on target, scoring with 16 of them. A conversion rate of 21.33%. He's just missed a lot more chances this year, that's the reason he's only got 3 goals this season. It's as simple as that. For all those shots... I can't recall many "sitters" missed. I think he's shooting from positions goals are unlikely. Last year I felt he outscored from the positions he got in. Eh how many 1 on 1’s with just the keeper to beat has he missed? I’ll tell you - loads! In fact I can’t remember him scoring one? Just purely a confidence thing for me, but good luck to him if he does go.
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Post by wertongas on Jan 31, 2024 15:43:58 GMT
Friend was already in the building I think you mean the treatment room. Apparently it was first place he visited when he came to the Mem , he had to check the room had all the neccessary equipment and to a good standard before signing .
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Post by Marshy on Jan 31, 2024 15:46:36 GMT
I think you mean the treatment room. Apparently it was first place he visited when he came to the Mem , he had to check the room had all the neccessary equipment and to a good standard before signing . Yes, when he went in there Josh Grant was lying down smoking a spliff 😁.
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Post by wertongas on Jan 31, 2024 16:06:47 GMT
Untill last January when Barton had one of his funny turns, Aaron was doing fine, he was then shoved out on the wing and seemed to lose confidence and the goals dried up. From having the ball played to his feet to having to pick up the ball, wing it, cut inside create the chance and score with is a big difference and a big ask. I think if he goes to a team like Bolton, gets managed properly then we shall soon see the goals flying in .
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 31, 2024 16:17:41 GMT
Yet Aaron Collins has still had more shots at goal and more shots on target than the Divisions top scorer. Devante Cole has scored 16 Aaron Collins has scored 3. Aaron Collins has had 61 shots so far this season, with 29 on target, only scoring with 3 of them. A conversion rate of just 6.25%. Last season he had 75 shots in the whole campaign, 46 were on target, scoring with 16 of them. A conversion rate of 21.33%. He's just missed a lot more chances this year, that's the reason he's only got 3 goals this season. It's as simple as that. Because he's shooting from low XG positions. Better in a more direct approach When he was in his best form which was pretty much the whole of 2022, he was scoring a lot more frequently because he was shooting from all over the place because he was full of confidence. He was shooting from lower XG positions then, rather than now. This calender year, it's not just this season, the 2nd half of last season his and Coburns goals dried up as well. He's missed the easier chances which he should score by snatching at chances or overthinking but he's also not attempting as many instinctive shots from more difficult positions or from long range which is what happens when you're out of form and confidence goes.
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Post by harold66 on Jan 31, 2024 16:24:09 GMT
Collins worth at least a million if not more.
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Post by Marshy on Jan 31, 2024 16:26:59 GMT
Collins worth at least a million if not more. He’s only worth what someone is willing to pay, and I’m afraid we ain’t getting to the 7 figures you mention.
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