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Post by amgas on Jan 25, 2024 15:52:54 GMT
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Post by alanrg on Jan 25, 2024 15:57:03 GMT
You mean Rotherham
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Post by amgas on Jan 25, 2024 16:34:05 GMT
Yes I do 😄😄😄
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Post by EastVanGas on Jan 25, 2024 16:37:44 GMT
I've heard it's the latter. And that Byron's been asked to continue first team coaching duties alongside his existing Head of Academy duties, all for the same ££. |
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Post by martincollins on Jan 25, 2024 22:47:53 GMT
Again if true, shocking! Have seen Byron on the bench multiple times, But may just be helping for match days to strengthen links with academy?
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Post by yattongas on Jan 25, 2024 22:54:25 GMT
Again if true, shocking! Have seen Byron on the bench multiple times, But may just be helping for match days to strengthen links with academy? Is it really shocking ? Lots of fans were complaining that we had more back room staff than was needed under Barton . Think it’s a case of the new owners sorting the wheat from the chaff , working out who or what’s really needed going forward. Understandable as they are new to football. |
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Post by pirate on Jan 25, 2024 23:30:14 GMT
Again if true, shocking! Have seen Byron on the bench multiple times, But may just be helping for match days to strengthen links with academy? Is it really shocking ? Lots of fans were complaining that we had more back room staff than was needed under Barton . Think it’s a case of the new owners sorting the wheat from the chaff , working out who or what’s really needed going forward. Understandable as they are new to football. How would the owners know what is needed if they are new to football? When the owner of Stockport took charge, shortly after he appointed a CEO, and a director of football in Simon Wilson - a highly regarded former City Football Group employee. Similar for Wrexham who appointed experienced football CEO Shaun Harvey and Fleur Robinson. Former Football Association technical director Les Reed also joined Wrexham as an advisor to the board. They are first and second in the division below and Stockport in particular have been excellent under the influence of the DoF Simon Wilson and I would be far more confident of continued success and growth from those two clubs rather than us, mostly because they have serious owners and a good infrastructure to help and support the manager and give him the best possible chance of success. Any success we achieve will be in spite of the structure and non-existent recruitment department, not because of it. |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 25, 2024 23:37:28 GMT
Is it really shocking ? Lots of fans were complaining that we had more back room staff than was needed under Barton . Think it’s a case of the new owners sorting the wheat from the chaff , working out who or what’s really needed going forward. Understandable as they are new to football. How would the owners know what is needed if they are new to football? When the owner of Stockport took charge, shortly after he appointed a CEO, and a director of football in Simon Wilson - a highly regarded former City Football Group employee. Similar for Wrexham who appointed experienced football CEO Shaun Harvey. They are first and second in the division below and Stockport in particular have been excellent under the influence of the DoF Simon Wilson and I would be far more confident of continued success and growth from those two clubs rather than us, mostly because they have serious owners and a good infrastructure to help and support the manager and give him the best possible chance of success. Any success we achieve will be in spite of the structure and non-existent recruitment department, not because of it. How would the owners know what is needed if they are new to football? That’s my point that you completely disregarded. They maybe finding their feet , working out what’s needed and what they realise they don’t know. |
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Post by pirate on Jan 25, 2024 23:42:34 GMT
How would the owners know what is needed if they are new to football? When the owner of Stockport took charge, shortly after he appointed a CEO, and a director of football in Simon Wilson - a highly regarded former City Football Group employee. Similar for Wrexham who appointed experienced football CEO Shaun Harvey. They are first and second in the division below and Stockport in particular have been excellent under the influence of the DoF Simon Wilson and I would be far more confident of continued success and growth from those two clubs rather than us, mostly because they have serious owners and a good infrastructure to help and support the manager and give him the best possible chance of success. Any success we achieve will be in spite of the structure and non-existent recruitment department, not because of it. How would the owners know what is needed if they are new to football? That’s my point that you completely disregarded. They maybe finding their feet , working out what’s needed and what they realise they don’t know. But they haven't and aren't. That is the problem. They started looking at the club over a year ago and took charge six months ago, more than enough time to make necessary appointments and improvements. Things are getting worse and standards have slipped. Our name is getting dragged through the dirt in certain football circles because of the owners incompetent son and it isn't good enough. |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 25, 2024 23:46:45 GMT
How would the owners know what is needed if they are new to football? That’s my point that you completely disregarded. They maybe finding their feet , working out what’s needed and what they realise they don’t know. But they haven't and aren't. That is the problem. They started looking at the club over a year ago and took charge six months ago, more than enough time to make necessary appointments and improvements. Things are getting worse and standards have slipped. Our name is getting dragged through the dirt in certain football circles because of the owners incompetent son and it isn't good enough. Nah not buying that , they’re new to uk football. Looking to buy isn’t the same as running the show for a few yrs. 6 months is nothing , you’ve hardly got your feet under the table. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Jan 25, 2024 23:47:55 GMT
How would the owners know what is needed if they are new to football? That’s my point that you completely disregarded. They maybe finding their feet , working out what’s needed and what they realise they don’t know. But they haven't and aren't. That is the problem. They started looking at the club over a year ago and took charge six months ago, more than enough time to make necessary appointments and improvements. Things are getting worse and standards have slipped. Our name is getting dragged through the dirt in certain football circles because of the owners incompetent son and it isn't good enough. They started looking at the club in February. Not quite over a year ago but a decent length of time |
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Post by pirate on Jan 25, 2024 23:55:44 GMT
But they haven't and aren't. That is the problem. They started looking at the club over a year ago and took charge six months ago, more than enough time to make necessary appointments and improvements. Things are getting worse and standards have slipped. Our name is getting dragged through the dirt in certain football circles because of the owners incompetent son and it isn't good enough. Nah not buying that , they’re new to uk football. Looking to buy isn’t the same as running the show for a few yrs. 6 months is nothing , you’ve hardly got your feet under the table. Six months to look at the club and do due diligence on the infrastructure and where improvements are needed is more than enough time. Talking to people in the background, consulting experts, talking to potential CEO's and potential Directors of Football. Studying the success of similar sized clubs to us in the past, like a Brentford, or a Luton etc. I see no evidence of any of it with us, more a Reading and Wigan, than a Brentford or Luton scenario. I would love to be proved wrong and as always I hope for the best, but it isn't looking good. |
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Post by olskooltoteender on Jan 26, 2024 0:01:36 GMT
But they haven't and aren't. That is the problem. They started looking at the club over a year ago and took charge six months ago, more than enough time to make necessary appointments and improvements. Things are getting worse and standards have slipped. Our name is getting dragged through the dirt in certain football circles because of the owners incompetent son and it isn't good enough. Nah not buying that , they’re new to uk football. Looking to buy isn’t the same as running the show for a few yrs. 6 months is nothing , you’ve hardly got your feet under the table. OK, but why should we be their guinea pigs? |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 26, 2024 0:07:50 GMT
Nah not buying that , they’re new to uk football. Looking to buy isn’t the same as running the show for a few yrs. 6 months is nothing , you’ve hardly got your feet under the table. OK, but why should we be their guinea pigs? Guessing like a lot of clubs…. Bloke with lots of money with a love for football decides to buy football club, learns on the job . just like I’ll do on Friday when I win the euro millions (110m) when I buy the club. I’ll make a few mistakes, but all you miserable bastards will still be welcome when I lead us to the promised land 😀👍 |
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 26, 2024 6:15:57 GMT
OK, but why should we be their guinea pigs? Guessing like a lot of clubs…. Bloke with lots of money with a love for football decides to buy football club, learns on the job . just like I’ll do on Friday when I win the euro millions (110m) when I buy the club. I’ll make a few mistakes, but all you miserable bastards will still be welcome when I lead us to the promised land 😀👍 Aka Michael knighton, expect 100 keepy uppies on centre spot before you wave your drachmas around! 😂🏴☠️ |
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Post by RD on Jan 26, 2024 6:41:01 GMT
OK, but why should we be their guinea pigs? Guessing like a lot of clubs…. Bloke with lots of money with a love for football decides to buy football club, learns on the job . just like I’ll do on Friday when I win the euro millions (110m) when I buy the club. I’ll make a few mistakes, but all you miserable bastards will still be welcome when I lead us to the promised land 😀👍 110 million..... taking us on for just a year are you?! |
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Post by pilninggas on Jan 26, 2024 7:06:42 GMT
I've heard it's the latter. And that Byron's been asked to continue first team coaching duties alongside his existing Head of Academy duties, all for the same ££. Honestly, not having a dig, but how the hell would you have heard this? I really can't see BA talking about private contract matters. I work in a different sector, but once saw a more senior colleague get sacked. I was asked if I wanted the job, but said no. I acted-up in the interim [also doing my old role at a slightly reduce amount] and got an agreed extra payment until they replaced the sacked colleague and I went back to doing my own job. I'm fairly sure BA will be remunerated if he is acting-up and still keeping the academy ticking over. |
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Post by gassedOut on Feb 2, 2024 14:04:09 GMT
AT THE QUARTERS TODAY I BELEIVE ;-)
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Post by richie on Feb 2, 2024 14:22:04 GMT
I am the only one thinking the new owners are doing a good job,
1) In the last 6 months we've actually signed a player for real money which was almost a record and despite the lack of scouting/recruitment ect... hes in the exact mould that we think we should be signing.
We've also sold our best asset for a decent price, this hasnt always happened.
2) In addition to this, we've actually improved the stadium. Not aspirations not UWE relocation or Fruit market buying but actual improvement that we can see.
3) He's changed the manager which has pleased many of the fan base.
yes everything has happened a bit slower than expected and there are still some areas that we need to improve but i'd rather get it right than make expensive poor decisions.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Feb 2, 2024 14:33:48 GMT
I would not pretend to know anything about the inner workings of the football club but Richie certainly accentuates the positives which is fine by me, no doubt someone will counter it with some negatives but the stand is great, the player seems very promising ,as for the managerial change there will always be for and against. think it much better for the well being if you 'always look on the bright side of life'!
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