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Post by chewbacca on Jan 26, 2024 13:51:10 GMT
Virtual signalling? What's that when it's at home? Big dafty. Virtual signalling.  Have to laugh, clearly part of the joke agenda. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 26, 2024 14:43:12 GMT
I’m sure all players are paid up members of PFA so im pretty sure their would be some payment if his injuries are career ending if someone has to retire from their chosen career due to illness then they can access their private pension. Then what happens when you've spent it all well before your normal retirement age? Although aren't the rules regarding a terminal illness not just a physical problem? If Rossiter's playing career is over he'll have to find alternative work, which I assume Nick Anderton has now done. |
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Post by pirate on Jan 26, 2024 14:49:32 GMT
if someone has to retire from their chosen career due to illness then they can access their private pension. Then what happens when you've spent it all well before your normal retirement age? Although aren't the rules regarding a terminal illness not just a physical problem? If Rossiter's playing career is over he'll have to find alternative work, which I assume Nick Anderton has now done. Nick Anderton is now Assistant First-Team Coach at AFC Fylde. |
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 26, 2024 15:06:38 GMT
A contract is a contract and I hope BRFC honour the terms of every contract. They have to follow the legalities. However, we perhaps need to consider players’ long term injury records when we first sign players and be cautious as to the terms we agree to. Consider it then not later when we’ve entered into a commitment.
UTG!
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Post by aghast on Jan 26, 2024 17:06:35 GMT
Has the same agent as Barton and about the a third of the squad, has only gone past 20 league appearances once in his 12 year career, a hilarious signing to be filed alongside Jon Nolan (same agent). More virtual signalling, wtf does your opinion of Joey and a tenuous link with agents have to do with the fact that a top player like Jordy who was injured while playing for Rovers last season, having then undergone an operation is currently not available ? Do you actually know what virtue signalling means, or is it just a phrase you've heard and decided to write down, regardless of context? |
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Post by SleepyGas on Jan 26, 2024 17:19:47 GMT
More virtual signalling, wtf does your opinion of Joey and a tenuous link with agents have to do with the fact that a top player like Jordy who was injured while playing for Rovers last season, having then undergone an operation is currently not available ? Do you actually know what virtue signalling means, or is it just a phrase you've heard and decided to write down, regardless of context? I was thinking the exact same thing. Can just imagine him reading The S*n or similar and going "ooh yeah a new insult for those lefty do-gooders" and then still getting the wording and context utterly wrong. What a buffoon  |
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Post by playtowin on Jan 26, 2024 17:30:59 GMT
JR once he got going was a stand out player for us and we have missed him on the pitch.
Im not privy to his rehab status or his contract length but would hope he gets to pull on the quartered jersey a few times more.
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Post by tbonegas on Jan 26, 2024 18:24:11 GMT
Jordan Rossiters story is similar to that of Jamie Shore. He came here as an injury prone player.
We have tried in vain to get regular games out of him.
Sadly it ain't going to work.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Jan 26, 2024 18:38:06 GMT
I’m sure all players are paid up members of PFA so im pretty sure their would be some payment if his injuries are career ending if someone has to retire from their chosen career due to illness then they can access their private pension. That may have been the case in the 90s and noughties when pension funds were over funded and companies wanted to downsize without compulsory redundancies. They would look for instance. in manual jobs, workers with perhaps arthritis and offer them ill health pensions. The benefit for the company would be that they would not have pay redundancy money. |
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Post by gasbaggio on Jan 26, 2024 18:40:55 GMT
Really good player who made us better when he was on the field. Unfortunately, he’s been blighted by injuries and has only played just over 100 first team games aged 26. I hope he can get fit and stay fit but unlikely now I reckon.
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 26, 2024 18:43:25 GMT
if someone has to retire from their chosen career due to illness then they can access their private pension. That may have been the case in the 90s and noughties when pension funds were over funded and companies wanted to downsize without compulsory redundancies. They would look for instance. in manual jobs, workers with perhaps arthritis and offer them ill health pensions. The benefit for the company would be that they would not have pay redundancy money. It's the law that if someone under 55 has to retire from their occupation due to ill health then they can access their private pension as if they are 55. |
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 26, 2024 18:51:26 GMT
Jordan Rossiters story is similar to that of Jamie Shore. He came here as an injury prone player. We have tried in vain to get regular games out of him. Sadly it ain't going to work. We keep gambling on players like this both hugely talented, Jamie shore would have been a top prem player, sad when it doesn't come off. |
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 26, 2024 19:07:40 GMT
Anybody who saw that ridiculous tackle on Rossiter by a dirty MK Dons side would know that it was typical of a Mickey Mouse Cup game where the referee allows ridiculous and dangerous tackles to go unpunished because it is "only a Mickey Mouse Cup game." There were lots of bad tackles that night by MK Dons players and it could have been any player but it was Rossiter. Unfortunately football is a high risk game but in my opinion it is usually the best players who receive the worst tackles. I am sure he would love to be turning out every week if he could.
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Post by Quarters on Jan 26, 2024 19:10:06 GMT
That may have been the case in the 90s and noughties when pension funds were over funded and companies wanted to downsize without compulsory redundancies. They would look for instance. in manual jobs, workers with perhaps arthritis and offer them ill health pensions. The benefit for the company would be that they would not have pay redundancy money. It's the law that if someone under 55 has to retire from their occupation due to ill health then they can access their private pension as if they are 55. I thought sports people could access pension pots earlier. While players who joined the scheme before 6 April 2006 can take their benefits from age 35, players joining after that date have a normal retirement age of 55. |
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Post by tbonegas on Jan 26, 2024 19:12:28 GMT
Jordan Rossiters story is similar to that of Jamie Shore. He came here as an injury prone player. We have tried in vain to get regular games out of him. Sadly it ain't going to work. We keep gambling on players like this both hugely talented, Jamie shore would have been a top prem player, sad when it doesn't come off. I have been watching this club for 59 years mate, and in all that time,I have never witnessed a talent like Jamie, in the famous shirt. He was often claimed to be a better player than Paul Gascoigne at England youth levels. A genius. |
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Post by Gashead73 on Jan 26, 2024 19:15:13 GMT
We keep gambling on players like this both hugely talented, Jamie shore would have been a top prem player, sad when it doesn't come off. I have been watching this club for 59 years mate, and in all that time,I have never witnessed a talent like Jamie, in the famous shirt. He was often claimed to be a better player than Paul Gascoigne at England youth levels. A genius. .Jamie Shore......just what could have been? |
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 26, 2024 19:18:07 GMT
We keep gambling on players like this both hugely talented, Jamie shore would have been a top prem player, sad when it doesn't come off. I have been watching this club for 59 years mate, and in all that time,I have never witnessed a talent like Jamie, in the famous shirt. He was often claimed to be a better player than Paul Gascoigne at England youth levels. A genius. Met him too mate lovely bloke. Should have found a coaching job for him. |
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Post by faggotygas on Jan 26, 2024 19:25:14 GMT
It's the law that if someone under 55 has to retire from their occupation due to ill health then they can access their private pension as if they are 55. I thought sports people could access pension pots earlier. While players who joined the scheme before 6 April 2006 can take their benefits from age 35, players joining after that date have a normal retirement age of 55. Pensions geek here. Finally my time to shine. Looking at the scheme booklet, players can only retire and take their benefits from the PFA pension scheme at age 55 or later... Unless they are unable to play due to physical or mental incapacity, in which case they can retire and take benefits at any time. In such a high risk business, god knows how the Trustees sort that out. After all, don't all players ultimately stop playing because they cannot play anymore due to physical or mental reasons? But as mentioned - since 2011 it's been a Money Purchase scheme, meaning that players have individual pots of money made up of contributions (which are a fixed amount and come from a levy on transfer fees), any contributions they decide to pay on top, and investment returns. So if they retire early, either they can make that last their lives, or they can buy an annuity from an insurance company. Either way, it would be stretched very thin. So looks to me that player's pensions are much less valuable than they used to be |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 26, 2024 19:27:38 GMT
Jordan Rossiters story is similar to that of Jamie Shore. He came here as an injury prone player. We have tried in vain to get regular games out of him. Sadly it ain't going to work. We keep gambling on players like this both hugely talented, Jamie shore would have been a top prem player, sad when it doesn't come off. The option seems to be to pay £300K on a L2 untested youngster, so you can see the attraction in gambling on previously injured players. I guess similar for a CB where we paid £300K(?) for Taylor but zero transfer fees for Wilson. As things stand the £150K(?) we paid for Connolly seems a total waste of money. |
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Post by eric on Jan 26, 2024 19:34:21 GMT
Anybody who saw that ridiculous tackle on Rossiter by a dirty MK Dons side would know that it was typical of a Mickey Mouse Cup game where the referee allows ridiculous and dangerous tackles to go unpunished because it is "only a Mickey Mouse Cup game." There were lots of bad tackles that night by MK Dons players and it could have been any player but it was Rossiter. Unfortunately football is a high risk game but in my opinion it is usually the best players who receive the worst tackles. I am sure he would love to be turning out every week if he could. My memory from watching it in front of me on the east terrace was that it was pretty innocuous. |
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