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Post by puregas on Feb 10, 2024 11:39:53 GMT
Shame that people need to over analyse and get offended by everything isn’t it.
What exactly happens when someone becomes offended? Are they physically or mentally hurt?
No, nothing happens. Absolutely nothing.
Just enjoy the football and don’t overthink everything anyone says.
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Post by eric on Feb 10, 2024 11:42:10 GMT
And as for the morons in the South Stand who sparked up with ‘the only good city fan etc’ directly after the very respectful 2 minutes applause for the two lads who were murdered, quite unbelievable. Now there is something genuinely offensive |
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Post by gasfred on Feb 10, 2024 12:02:51 GMT
I am offended by the offensiveness of this offensive post
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Feb 10, 2024 12:28:14 GMT
And as for the morons in the South Stand who sparked up with ‘the only good city fan etc’ directly after the very respectful 2 minutes applause for the two lads who were murdered, quite unbelievable. I didn't know that. WTF is wrong with people. Have people been moved from the Thatchers to South to add to the atmosphere or improve the chances of agro with away supporters. |
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Post by Gashead73 on Feb 10, 2024 12:28:18 GMT
As a English born supporter of an Irish Mother I find this a little annoying especially as there has been peace now for 26 years. I was in the Royal Navy for 5-6 years before the GFA and even as an active member of the forces' before, during and after I personally have never had a problem in Ireland. The only occasion was in Cork in 98/99 when I went into a pub not realising it was a RA pub, my bristol accent gave me away but in respect they were fantastic and polite which knocked me as I thought I'd Be in for a right kicking.
That was one great night in respect.
I love Ireland dearly but this song clearly is outdated and needs to go.
Slainche
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 10, 2024 12:42:15 GMT
As a English born supporter of an Irish Mother I find this a little annoying especially as there has been peace now for 26 years. I was in the Royal Navy for 5-6 years before the GFA and even as an active member of the forces' before, during and after I personally have never had a problem in Ireland. The only occasion was in Cork in 98/99 when I went into a pub not realising it was a RA pub, my bristol accent gave me away but in respect they were fantastic and polite which knocked me as I thought I'd Be in for a right kicking. That was one great night in respect. I love Ireland dearly but this song clearly is outdated and needs to go. Slainche Its just a stupid terrace song. As pointed out, most of the kids weren't around when IRA was active. It's not that deep. |
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Post by clockendgas on Feb 10, 2024 12:49:41 GMT
Balance this twenty seconds with what the green brigade at Celtic sing,and it's hardly worth mentioning.
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 10, 2024 13:22:56 GMT
I can't usually be arsed to get involved with the controversial stuff on here, but after recently retiring as a deputy head of a secondary school in Portsmouth I have first hand experience of this. A bunch of lads, 15 and 16 had taken to singing this song in the playground. At Pompey the last line is " f--- the Pope and the IRA." As do Glasgow Rangers. I asked these lads what they knew about Irish history and politics. Nothing of course. However many were from naval families and the IRA were just on their list of historical enemies. I explained that from my point of view the IRA had (from their perspective) legitimate and honourable intentions from the 1920s, but by the 1970s had turned into a bunch of gangsters blowing up teenagers in pubs. They stopped singing it in school, but probably still sing it at Pompey. At least they know why..... I don't much like the one about dead City fans. Sorry, a lot of this is probably boring but it did touch a nerve. Unsure of what part of the curriculum that fell under. You pay someone to teach your kids to read and write and suddenly they come home with all the same political ideas as the teachers. Funny that! |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 10, 2024 13:54:03 GMT
I can't usually be arsed to get involved with the controversial stuff on here, but after recently retiring as a deputy head of a secondary school in Portsmouth I have first hand experience of this. A bunch of lads, 15 and 16 had taken to singing this song in the playground. At Pompey the last line is " f--- the Pope and the IRA." As do Glasgow Rangers. I asked these lads what they knew about Irish history and politics. Nothing of course. However many were from naval families and the IRA were just on their list of historical enemies. I explained that from my point of view the IRA had (from their perspective) legitimate and honourable intentions from the 1920s, but by the 1970s had turned into a bunch of gangsters blowing up teenagers in pubs. They stopped singing it in school, but probably still sing it at Pompey. At least they know why..... I don't much like the one about dead City fans. Sorry, a lot of this is probably boring but it did touch a nerve. Unsure of what part of the curriculum that fell under. You pay someone to teach your kids to read and write and suddenly they come home with all the same political ideas as the teachers. Funny that! Not in my case, then again I went to my local comprehensive and if anything, I did a bit of the teaching as some of my classmates preferred speaking to me. 😇 |
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Post by toggsy2 on Feb 10, 2024 14:04:06 GMT
Reading the comments and suggestions of changing the lyrics even this idea will struggle to be effective as certain element are so used to singing it.
Maybe a different approach would be to start booing when the song is started if this is implicated every time the chant is attempted, the message will soon get out that it's not an appropriate chant to be singing.
Enforcing bans is not the way to go IMO
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 10, 2024 14:07:41 GMT
I’m still waiting for someone to explain why a chant about a terrorist organisation who were at war with the UK until quite recently is offensive. It’s not my song, I don’t sing it. I do need to know if I’m asked to endorse grabbing people by their arms and legs and throwing them out of public events for speech, why this is necessary. I’d imagine the Irish would have right to be more watered off, given the blood spilled and murders at a sport stadium but you will not stop people hating on each other Croke Park? That was a different era and a different IRA. The song is pretty irrelevant now and time it was retired. Wouldn't ban it, hopefully it'll just fade away. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 10, 2024 14:23:14 GMT
I’d imagine the Irish would have right to be more watered off, given the blood spilled and murders at a sport stadium but you will not stop people hating on each other Croke Park? That was a different era and a different IRA. The song is pretty irrelevant now and time it was retired. Wouldn't ban it, hopefully it'll just fade away. Different but still murder of non armed people |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 10, 2024 14:34:33 GMT
Croke Park? That was a different era and a different IRA. The song is pretty irrelevant now and time it was retired. Wouldn't ban it, hopefully it'll just fade away. Different but still murder of non armed people Indeed, plenty died earlier that day too and many more before and after. My point is that this song is referring to the Provisional IRA of the 1970s and after, not the original IRA. |
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Post by hippo on Feb 11, 2024 8:11:00 GMT
And as for the morons in the South Stand who sparked up with ‘the only good city fan etc’ directly after the very respectful 2 minutes applause for the two lads who were murdered, quite unbelievable. Shameful. What is wrong with some people |
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Post by gonzales on Feb 11, 2024 9:52:32 GMT
Lyrics should be "f the c*ty and the Ashton 8" IMO.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 11, 2024 10:13:37 GMT
Disagree with op.
Apparently it's ok sing about hating some law abiding citizens expressing their rights to be inbred, yet any singing about a terrorist murdering group is offensive!?
Wtf?
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Feb 11, 2024 11:06:55 GMT
Lyrics should be "f the c*ty and the Ashton 8" IMO. The Ashton Gate 8 were well and truly done over by the club at the time. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 11, 2024 11:11:53 GMT
The new Fans directors seem to be no better than Masters and BSS.
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Post by Strange Gas on Feb 11, 2024 11:12:35 GMT
Didn’t hear it yesterday, is this working? Or have I just become deaf, tolerant or too easily engrossed by the sparkling entertainment on the pitch?! Crowd did seem quite flat
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 11, 2024 11:13:07 GMT
Didn’t hear it yesterday, is this working? Or have I just become deaf, tolerant or too easily engrossed by the sparkling entertainment on the pitch?! Crowd did seem quite flat Wasn't much to sing about yesterday. |
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